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Jae Onasi

By Jae Onasi
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Yes, because first century Christianity was really well-known for its violence.

Not exactly....

 

But my point was that whenever somebody popular dies, they become a martyr(especially in the religious world, currently particularly in the Muslim world). Their followers get more fanatical, aggressive, and when you combine religion, fanaticism, and reckless abandon, violence is the logical outcome.

 

Musharraf's "leaving the military" move is not enough to counter this.

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I think Bhutto was killed by an insurgent. Not killed by Pakistani military, altough her supporters would contend otherwise. Oh well. Heh.

 

Who's that other opposition leader? Um...Nawaz Sharrif, the Islamist, right?

 

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/sharif-vows-to-fight-bhuttos-war/2007/12/28/1198345171547.html

 

I think Bhutto's death will be pivtol to the history of Pakistan, by paving the way for Nawaz Sharrif to take over Bhutto and lead the Opposition in the future (and maybe even take over Pakistan...who knows?) . Consider the fact that Nawaz Sharrif was the one who established Pakistan's alliance with the Taliban, and that Nawaz Sharrif has been alleged for corruption (altough, yes, Bhutto too has been alleged for corruption), and being a "nuclear hero", for instance, and you can understand the nervousness of America. After all, the reason America called for an alliance between Bhutto and Musharraf was because they were afraid of Nawaz.

 

Assuming elections will going well, and that Nawaz Sharrif are running in them, I think Nawaz Sharrif will succed Musharrf's throne with Bhutto's votes. Gotta love insurgents changing the fate of society forever. Starting with the killing of the Arch-Duke leading to WWI, the bombings of a military camp that led US to withdraw from Lebanon, and the Spainsh Election swayed by an Al-Qadiah attack (mostly because the Government was trying to blame the attacks on the Basque instead of figuring out it was done by Al-Qadiah)...

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Well Pakistani people's hope and mine as well for better future has gone.I hope something bad doesn't happen in Pakistan.On news it is said that Al-Qaeda was behind this curse them.What had Benazir Bhutto done to them?.Oh Allah Help us and help Al-Qaeda to realize that what they are doing is wrong even Islam says to live in peace this is not Jihad.And I think Al-Qaeda is not even Muslim.Muslims can't kill a women,a child or an old person.Hope Pakistan stabilize soon or emergency can be started again.

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Now, despite being from India, I'm pretty much apathetic to Pakistani politics, so much so that only knew Bhutto by her name, but watching the TV news, I noticed one thing wrong - The authorities assigned the fire brigades to clean up the site of the incident, in only about 4-5 hours of the assassination and blast.

 

Shouldn't the area be sealed for investigation? Why the hurry?

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Apparently Al Queda officials are claiming they didn't do this.

 

Now, yes, they are a terrorist orginization and they're not ones to be trusted at their word, but lets face it, AlQueda essentially gets free room and board in Pakistan(if our intelligence is right), and Bhutto has said that the "war on terror" IS Pakistan's concern, so logically she would be a good target for them.

 

but if they're claiming they didn't do it even when it probly would have benefited them, their case seems a lot stronger.

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Shouldn't the area be sealed for investigation? Why the hurry?

That is a very good question. As far as I know, Muslims that pass on are buried the very next day. I am not sure though.

And I think Al-Qaeda is not even Muslim.

They probably practice radical Islam. Information

 

As for this subject: I think that what happened was a terrible thing. No there really is no 'opposition' for the President in the elections.

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That is a very good question. As far as I know, Muslims that pass on are buried the very next day. I am not sure though.

 

from what I recall, bodies must be buried within a day or two out of respect for the dead. It's why all investigations much be done ASAP, the last thing Musharraf wants/needs is MORE flak for desecrating Bhutto's body.

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Now I've been watching the news lately and saw an interesting show about this yesterday. The guys on the news channel had acquired an anonymous video that clearly showed the last few moments of Bhutto's life. Amidst a crowd, you can very clearly see a hand rise above the rest with a handgun and pump two bullets before panic spreads.

 

Also, another footage showed a handgun in the aftermath of the incident.

 

And still, the Government of Pakistan claims that Bhutto was killed by a lever of her vehicle as it exploded in the blast. Bhutto's aide, Sherry Rehman, who washed her body for her final rites also says she found bullet wounds, and that the government has some nasty cover-up over the incident.

 

The show also made guesses over four possible culprits, and their reasons. Osama would want to take her out, as he Bhutto had better ties with the US and Osama would utterly hate it if the US got more power over Pakistan. He hasn't released any statement though, and the chances are still low.

 

The Pakistan Army are the next suspect, because they are obviously the ones who can break any security measure and since they are in control of Pakistan, pretty much anything. Bhutto was the most popular civilian leader, which the Army doesn't want at all.

 

Rogue officers of the ISI (Pakistan's Intelligence Body) are the most likely culprit, according to the show, as they had a strong hate for the Bhutto family and would also dislike a civilian in charge of the government. They also had the skills and resources to pull something like this.

 

Mehsud, the leader of the Pakistani Taliban issued a statement saying that the PT follows Pushto traditions in that they will never attack a woman.

 

I dunno, but I personally suspect Musharraf, like the many others on this thread.

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I suspect it was musharraf's doing. Bhutto had been causing him trouble. As if the state of emergency wasn't enough...

 

Actually, my academic coach was at Harvard at the same time as Benazir Bhutto. Odd coincidence. He seemed to like her, but I haven't spoke with him since the assassination.

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A very interesting problem for political scientist. Hehe, since there's finally something interesting to post about I'll try to show some things.

 

 

The Islamists could have done something like this. They do not like women in position of power that's for sure. The man who committed that act could have been linked to one of them, including Al-Qaeda.

 

 

On the other hand, it could be a fanatic working on his own, for reasons who took with him. Another possibility.

 

 

Then there's Musharraf. He could have had her killed. Here's the reasons why. Bhutto represents an anti-taliban stance, a bit like Musharraf. So technically, they could share a similar non-islamic electorate. With Bhutto out of the picture and blame put on the Islamists, Musharraf could certainly seize the occasion and proclaim himself the only leader capable of fighting the extremists.

 

Sharif could be the alternative in this scenario. Though it is highly unlikely, considering his party's relative unpopularity (9.4% in the 2002 elections). Furthermore, he tried to impose Koranic laws back in 1998 (or was it 99? not sure). It could prove to be working against him among the more moderate Pakistanis, mostly supporters of Bhutto. IMO, Musharraf, even as unpopular as he is, has more chance then Sharif does at taking parliament.

 

At the moment, it is too early to truly make any solid statement. Most of what people say will happen is speculation. It is still a very interesting situation.

 

 

 

Becoming a martyr:

 

I find this somewhat unlikely. Yes, she is in the eyes of many, but a competent leader must take advantage of the situation or else her "martyrdom" will fade. Think about it: if Viktor Yushenko, current president of Ukraine had died from poisoning and nobody was there to take the mantle, it is highly unlikely we'd see the same democratic Ukraine today (as democratic as possible mind you). For now, Sharif seems to try to pick up the mantle. If he succeeds is something we'll have to wait and see, something I still find highly unlikely.

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