mozzymatt Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 well kotor is the story of revan its all about what he's started and why and your gonna give us everything except how it ends .... preposterous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Man_2423 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 What do you mean everything except the end? What kind of ending were you hoping for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Think he means about the lack of a Kotor 3. Hey, here to complain about that as well? Good luck and welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern_fox Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Think he means about the lack of a Kotor 3. Hey, here to complain about that as well? Good luck and welcome. Yes, I'm sure thats what he was going for. I shed no tears over the lack of a near-future third installment. I'd really rather have whatever Bioware is cooking up with Lucasarts right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Man_2423 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Well games aren't made overnight, so if he is waiting for a K3, he's gonna have to be patient like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vougalot Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 If there will be no Knights of the Old Republic III, I would hope that either Lucas Books or Dark Horse comics is kind enough to pick it up in story form so as not to leave us hanging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamhainn Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Dark Horse already gives us some glimpses how it all started (if all are not red herrings that is). Take care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltiades Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 And that's great! It's a really interesting story, but still, it doesn't (and most likely won't) tell the story of what happened after The Sith Lords. That's Kotor 3's job. Still, at the moment, I enjoy reading the comics, it eases the pain of waiting for Kotor 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentScope001 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 But we already know what's going to happen. I mean, do you really think the 'True Sith', whomever they are, will win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 But we already know what's going to happen. I mean, do you really think the 'True Sith', whomever they are, will win? Who knows? Maybe on one of the endings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quanon Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 But we already know what's going to happen. I mean, do you really think the 'True Sith', whomever they are, will win? I guess you don't like to play most of the games that get released then . Because the majority ends good , films end good , bookd end good ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentScope001 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Because the majority ends good , films end good , bookd end good ... Is it really that bad to demand a little variety and cynical realism in works rather than simplistic stories of 'good winning over evil'? It's why we got this innovation of 'choice' anyway, in which people who get tired of traditional stories can choose to write a different ending. TSL did quite well in variety and cynical realism, despite its flaws. An alternate, well-written ending where the True Sith takes over...hm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quanon Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 An alternate, well-written ending where the True Sith takes over...hm... Like you said TSL gave already a certain amount of choice , so why so frightfull that that my get lost in K3 ? Though I doubt the main badguy can still win in the end, without forcing you to redo the fight with a save-game. I'll give you that, never seen a game where that happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltiades Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 But we already know what's going to happen. I mean, do you really think the 'True Sith', whomever they are, will win? Even if it's obvious the 'True Sith' lose, I want to know how, when, where and who survives of the 'good guys'. Even if we all know who wins and who loses, it'd still make a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darca Lar Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 If the developer is right that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 What do you want instead, scope? Republic gets genocided and continuity is shot to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltiades Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 What do you want instead, scope? Republic gets genocided and continuity is shot to hell. Well, that's what we'd probably get as an alternative ending. Having the games occur 4,000 years before the movies gives them a lot of freedom, but there'll always be things that can't be changed, and the Republic left standing is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vougalot Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 But you see, the Knights of the Old Republic games have endings that aren't so drastic that any of them could fit into continuity as far as the movies go, even the noncanonical endings. I think this was the developers' goal: that all endings were possible and could stand with the movies and be ambiguous that way. But the Republic falling would break that tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltiades Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 But you see, the Knights of the Old Republic games have endings that aren't so drastic that any of them could fit into continuity as far as the movies go, even the noncanonical endings. I think this was the developers' goal: that all endings were possible and could stand with the movies and be ambiguous that way. But the Republic falling would break that tradition. True. Both the return of Darth Revan and the Exile controlling the Sith Academy on Malachor could fit into canon. I think Kotor3 would have a similar dark side ending, where the main character turns on the Republic and the Republic loses at the Outer Rim (or even the Middle Rim) while not being destroyed completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darca Lar Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Yes, that could work. The Repulic itself could not fall in this storyline(canonically), because from my understanding it lasts until the rise of the empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzymatt Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 i don't know where they say that the republic has lasted for 24000 years anywhere. I know that in ep.1 someguy says 1000 years and i always took that to mean since darth bane. but im presuming that the republic can fall cause i dont know where it says they cant. i know that its Lucas tradition ofr the good guys to win but tradtions arent fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vougalot Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 25,000 thousand years is canon. Palpatine's "a thousand years" refers to the Ruusan Reformations of 1,000 BBY, which took place right after the New Sith Wars. So you are correct there. The practical answer is that it was an oversight by Lucas. He wished to retcon the Republic to have existed for only a thousand years, forgetting about Obi-Wan's line in A New Hope. Thus, Expanded Universe authors had to remedy this, as well as the Rule of Two. They killed two birds with one stone. Along those lines, there's a constantly-recurring line in the first KOTOR that needs in-universe explanation: people keep saying that the Republic has stood for 15,000 years in the game, but if we go by official continuity it would have been 21,000 years at the time of KOTOR. Did some other major reformation possibly take place circa 19,000 BBY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 i don't know where they say that the republic has lasted for 24000 years anywhere. The New Essential Chronology= The Republic was born with the signing of the Galactic Constitution c. 25,000 BBY, during the Unification Wars. During that time, the Humans and Duros, reverse-engineering the Force-based technologies of the Rakata, invented the hyperdrive, allowing Coruscant to become the capital of the Galactic Republic and would remain that way for twenty-five thousand years. The Republic was created by the Core Founders, and the Jedi became it's guardians. Although there is indications of certain species as far back as 3,000,000,000. EDIT: Sorry Zerimar Nyliram, You beat me too it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 well kotor is the story of revan its all about what he's started and why and your gonna give us everything except how it ends .... preposterous If you remove "Knights of the Old Republic II" from the series, you know how "Knights of the Old Republic III" would have ended with Revan. I personally don't think they will be revisiting the Exile and Revan story any time soon. "Knights of the Old Republic I" did a great job in telling you the Revan story, and there really doesn't need any more explination. If you think about it, a Revan storyarch in "KotOR III" will only repeate the end of "KotOR I". Revan will either end as a Sith or Jedi. - and - He/she saves, kills, or rules the gallaxy. Very predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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