Save our environment!

[The Maverick]

I recently read in a magazine that 56,000 garbage trucks full of solid waste would be eliminaed annually if all 110,000,000 American households paid their bills online instead of receiving paper bills and bank statements. I just thought that was an interesting fact. Is there an interesting fact or idea that you can share that could help save our environment?

[Achilles]

Many appliances draw electricity even when they aren't being used.

[DeadYorick]

I recently read in a magazine that 56,000 garbage trucks full of solid waste would be eliminaed annually if all 110,000,000 American households paid their bills online instead of receiving paper bills and bank statements. I just thought that was an interesting fact. Is there an interesting fact or idea that you can share that could help save our environment?

 

There are a lot of weird facts about the environment. I know that every 30 seconds a child is born while every 2-5 seconds a child dies. Its how the population regulates itself

[Rev7]

Erm... don't litter. There are lots of things that we can do...change the type of fuel that cars run off of...there are lots of things that we can do to try to "save our environment".

[Jae Onasi]

Switching from incandescent to flourescent bulbs saves energy. Driving somewhere in the vicinity of the speed limit, as opposed to driving like you're in the Indianapolis 500, saves gas.

[Totenkopf]

Using less AC/heating also saves on fuel consumption (both at home and in the car), though it may be uncomfortable.

[Corinthian]

Why exactly do we need to save our environment? Aren't they always telling us that Mother Nature is a lot more powerful than Mankind?

[DeadYorick]

Why exactly do we need to save our environment? Aren't they always telling us that Mother Nature is a lot more powerful than Mankind?

 

Does global warming ring a bell. If we don't care about our environment Mother Nature is going to get so pissed off she is going to rub us off the face of the planet

[Q]

Many appliances draw electricity even when they aren't being used.

Very true, and often overlooked. Even when "turned off" appliances in standby mode still draw electricity, and though it isn't much, when multiplied by several million such devices it equals a lot of wasted power. In most cases this could be rectified by using a battery.

Switching from incandescent to flourescent bulbs saves energy.

Also true, but the quality of light that they produce pales (pun intended) in comparison to that produced by incandescent bulbs. Then there's the disposal issue, which presents its own environmental problem as flourescent bulbs contain mercury.

 

There is a solution, but I don't think that banning incandescent bulbs, as some governments are doing, is it. A good start would be the construction of nuclear power plants.

[MdKnightR]

Why exactly do we need to save our environment? Aren't they always telling us that Mother Nature is a lot more powerful than Mankind?

 

 

+1

 

Google The Planet is Fine by George Carlin

[Arcesious]

Once we develope better space travel and advance far enough overall, perhaps we can mine the resources of other planets. That's pretty far off though.

[Corinthian]

See, Arcescious is right. All we need to do is deploy Nanomachines to strip-mine other worlds. It's not like the rest of the Sol System is inhabited anyway. Well, as far as we know.

 

And, actually, I have not heard of this Global Warming phenomenon. It's actually at record low temperatures here. Are you sure about this?

[Arcesious]

Global warming has weird effects on other areas... Like a tornado in florida, and more snow in the rockies, but less ice in the poles. Edit: Oh yeah, and more/worse hurricaines.

 

Does anyone remember the thread about the world's supply of helium being almost gone? Well... Maybe we can dismantle all those nukes all over the place lying useless and use their uranium to produce some more helium. Or we could in the far future mine helium and other gases off of the sun and gas planets...

[Corinthian]

That makes...no sense. Logically, if the globe were really heating up, then everything would be heating up. This implies a localized heating, so I'm guessing we've got some kind of Supervillain with his Arctic Heating Ray to blame.

 

Also, didn't you ever play Fallout, Arcescious? Everybody knows that uranium is going to be one of the resources that drives World War II, we can't afford to get rid of any of that stuff.

[Ray Jones]

Once we develope better space travel and advance far enough overall, perhaps we can mine the resources of other planets. That's pretty far off though.

Alright. Let's go out there and destroy other worlds, inhabited or not. Let's just behave as if we had learned absolutely nothing during our time on earth.

[Corinthian]

Hey, save the habitable worlds for agriculture and such, we can live on Space Stations. Everything else, like desert worlds, ice worlds, volcanic worlds, and dead worlds are suitable for strip-mining.

[Ray Jones]

They may be future worlds full of life, just like it's here on earth, too.

[Tommycat]

Hmph... I wish people would quit talking about global warming as if it is a fact that we are causing it. We dump far less contaminates into the atmosphere than mother nature does(I think the last I heard it was less than 1% of greenhouse gasses were caused by man, if someone has accurate figures NOT from a global warming alarmist page, I'd like to see it). I'm all for not trashing our planet. Keep it clean. Don't pollute the waters, and basically don't poop where we eat. I just think this alarmist crap is overboard. Why waste energy protecting against a global heat wave when we could be preparing for a global ice age. That is my reason for not doing anything for global warming. All it would take is a few large eruptions and it wipes out all the good we do by switching everyone to electric cars recharged with solar power.

[Totenkopf]

I wholeheartedly agree. It seems like "going green" is the listerine of our time. Global warming is the new bogeyman. There's nothing wrong with trying not to be wasteful, but I refuse to turn my life upsidedown for some unproven artificially constructed crisis to make the Al Gore's of the world that much richer. For those that wish to drink the global warming koolaid, by all means do so......in your own personal life. Just leave the rest of us alone. Good link, btw, MdKnightR.

[Quanon]

I wholeheartedly agree. It seems like "going green" is the listerine of our time. Global warming is the new bogeyman.

 

True, still I don't think we should test if this artificial crisis can be true...

It would be like if you would put a gun to your head, only you just "heard" and shared thoughts on how this thing could/can kill.

 

Would you pull the trigger ?

 

All I learned is that our Planet has seasons of cold/ warmth, now these periods range +100.000 years.

Somehow where dissurpting or are at the start of messing with this system.

Which could turn to some bad bad things... or ofcourse if we're lucky we'll have a tropical paredises everywhere.

 

IMO, we better just be carfull and mindfull what we do with or resources, industry.

So that we don't end up like in DUNE=> Earth a nice scorchted ball of rock.

*thought those cyborgs where at it... *

[Samuel Dravis]

That makes...no sense. Logically, if the globe were really heating up, then everything would be heating up. This implies a localized heating, so I'm guessing we've got some kind of Supervillain with his Arctic Heating Ray to blame.

Not necessarily. For example, a change in climate could disrupt warm water currents in the ocean. Such currents are a significant part of the climate (Europe benefits from the Atlantic currents especially). If that happened, it's entirely possible that global warming could result in localized cooling.

[Ray Jones]

Hence why global warming is a somewhat misleading term. However, it's shorter than "the climate is changing in a way it wouldn't without us being wasteful asshats".

[tk102]

^^

Agreed. The proper term is climate destabilization. More energy in the atmosphere means less stable weather patterns. Think laminar versus turbulent flow.

[Arcesious]

Okay... I've done some research. Not about global warming (climate destabilization) though, as that seems to have been answered about how it works. So... Earth. We should work hard to fix the enviroment on earth, and make earth mostly agriculural. First we must colonize the moon, and build industrial plants on the moon to replace the polluting ones on Earth, also, a little strip-mining the moon would help. We've got to be practical about gettign resources.

Next up, Mars.

Mars is pretty far away, but it has many oxide-rich rocks, and other resources. We can make tons of oxygen and water from those oxide-rich rocks. Also, mars has potential to become a habitable planet, however it's resources in things like iron are very great, so strip mining most of mars would be the most useful way to use Mars.

For now we should leave Venus and mercury alone though- to hot to mine either.

Jupiter- A gas planet. A great resource. All of those gases make jupiter a very valuable planet to mine. We just need to invent more pressure resitant alloys and strogner engines to resist it's gravity before we try to mine it. But before that, we can always mine the Asteroid belt near Jupiter. Jupiter has a lot of useful hydrogen and helium, and other gases we haven't found yet deeper in it's atmosphere.

Saturn- We can mine it's rings, and it's got a lot of hydrogen.

Neptune-more Hydrogen and Helium

Uranus-Even more hydrogen and helium... (Also to mention most of these planets planets have some methane, which is also useful)

Pluto, and all of the moons around different planets that were not mentioned can pretty much be for strip mining. Europa has lots of useful ice...

The Kuiper Belt. Lots of rocks there that we can mine, but we don't know much of what's beyond that, besides a few planetoids and the rest of the stars.

[Tommycat]

^^

Agreed. The proper term is climate destabilization. More energy in the atmosphere means less stable weather patterns. Think laminar versus turbulent flow.

See the problem is that we're still making HUGE decisions based on speculation and assumptions. What the current global climate destabilization fanatics are having us do is the "Ready Fire Aim" approach. We're pulling the trigger on things that we have no way of knowing that they will affect positive change on little more than "feel good" measures. These changes are industry stifling, expensive, and dramatic, yet have little chance of affecting the global climate change. Especially when you consider that a volcanic erruption blows enough chemicals into the air that it would undo 10 years worth of our hard work.

 

I heard on CNN that Australia recently found that the only way to meet their 2020 requirements would be to completely stop using automobiles and start walking and riding bikes. The problem with this (at least as I see it) is that it means that more people have to live near their work to do this. That means if you don't live IN the city, you are pretty much unemployed.