Nedak Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 I just want Jedi to be hard to achieve. Everyone should start as a non-force sensitive like in all the KOTOR games. I'd like to be a Jedi but I also know so many other people will be one as well. Unless they do something to make it not that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSithEmperor Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 You my friend, provide an example of what people are afraid of. Awww:( Come on i won't bite:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz1928 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I hope they do something about being able to change classes. Some people in SWG just leveled with the easiest class, then switched to a Jedi because they had a ridiculous amount of credits, which was a little annoying... Awww:( Come on i won't bite:D I'm not hating against you, I was just saying. Like your avatar by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I would love the opportunity to play as a Sith Naval Commander of some sort, but the inevitable preponderance of and preference for Jedi/Sith characters is something that concerns me - I don't particularly fancy the idea of carefully building my character up only to be assaulted by a few hundred Jedi. Isn't that the risk of playing MMOs. You put in long hours of game time, and then someone more powerful kills you. You can't save in this game; thus, you will have to play the game all over again. I like progress that is saveable. Putting 20 hours into progressing the game and suddenly getting killed is not my style. All your sidequests will be wiped out. Yuck! I'm waiting for more details. We could be missing something about having no saves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz1928 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Isn't that the risk of playing MMOs. You put in long hours of game time, and then someone more powerful kills you. You can't save in this game; thus, you will have to play the game all over again. Im pretty sure you don't have to start the ENTIRE game all over again. You probably just start from a certain point, or spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Im pretty sure you don't have to start the ENTIRE game all over again. You probably just start from a certain point, or spot. They were talking about accidently killing your companions. It was mented that you can't go back and reset things. What is done is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 Have you ever played an MMO Yar-El? EDIT: ^ Where do you see that? You're saying there will be perma-death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Have you ever played an MMO Yar-El? EDIT: ^ Where do you see that? You're saying there will be perma-death? 1up's liveblog Scooter was reporting what one of the developer had said. No. I have never played a MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Vader Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 If the Mandalorian armor is like Jango Fett's armor, then I'll play as Mandalorian (if there's Mandalorian faction). If not, I'll play as Sith (coz I like Vader so much). Nice avatars, Razgriz1928 and TheSithEmperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 1up's liveblog Scooter was reporting what one of the developer had said. No. I have never played a MMO. Hmm, we'll probably hear more about that. Also in MMOS a character doesn't "die". Well a character does but it doesn't effect them at all, they just "respawn". In most MMOS when you die either your armor is damaged or you lose some items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I reedited and added this to my previous post - 4:31 Scooter: Choices that matter is another bullet point on his powerpoint 4:31 Scooter: WHO LIVES, WHO DIES is the kind of stuff you will experience, depending on your class 4:31 Scooter: there is no savekey 4:32 Scooter: your choices can't be undone or taken back like in old bioware games 4:32 Scooter: if you kill one of your companions, you cant quickload, your decision stands 4:32 Scooter: difference between morality and faction is a big theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Vader Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Hmm, we'll probably hear more about that. Also in MMOS a character doesn't "die". Well a character does but it doesn't effect them at all, they just "respawn". In most MMOS when you die either your armor is damaged or you lose some items. In RF, yes. But we don't know much about this MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSithEmperor Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Thats for companions, the charecter you play won't die permamently. The death system will be probably similiar to other MMOs for the charecter you play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 I reedited and added this to my previous post - I believe that was talking about as far as dark and lightside points, not death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz1928 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 @Ultimate Vader Yes, the Famous Darth Vader "Nooooooo!" Scene, based on an Ipod @Yar-El No where does it stay that when you die, your dead or you relapse to the beggining of your journey. If that was the case, then what your decisions do really don't affect you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 We need more information. Wait and see approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scars Unseen Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Well I will say this. There is absolutely no point in making the jedi class "hard" to get to. In the end, even if the method is hidden, it will be found out and displayed on websites. Once that happens, everyone that wants to play a jedi will go to whatever effort necessary to play it. Instead of everyone playing jedi and possibly interacting with the world, they will be grinding to become a jedi and completely ignoring the world. If anything, you would be guaranteeing that the majority of people playing jedi would fall into the younger age groups with more time on their hands than older, possibly more mature players that have to balance playing with work and family life. I personally don't want to play a jedi if certain other(Mandalorian or Echani) options are available, yet I still don't like the idea of the option being unavailable to me simply because I don't have the time to grind out 5000 holocrons or whatever. I think the true lesson that should be learned from the NGE is that if you are piloting a ship full of paying customers to England, you should not decide to change course for Portugal when you're halfway there. The ship was obviously full of people that like England or else they wouldn't have paid you to go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Man_2423 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Well I will say this. There is absolutely no point in making the jedi class "hard" to get to. In the end, even if the method is hidden, it will be found out and displayed on websites. Once that happens, everyone that wants to play a jedi will go to whatever effort necessary to play it. Instead of everyone playing jedi and possibly interacting with the world, they will be grinding to become a jedi and completely ignoring the world. There doesn't need to be a specific, secret "method" to finding out how to be one, the process of simply being a Jedi just shouldn't be so simple and easy. But don't worry, it will be, and we'll be plagued with the same problems from Galaxies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuuKage Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 At least in the time period TOR is set in there are supposed to be a lot of Jedi and Sith, unlike SWG. Considering the Jedi Order was wiped out less than three-hundred years earlier, I have trouble believing that Jedi are out in nearly as high numbers as Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scars Unseen Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 300 years is plenty of time to rebuild the order, given adequate Republic support. It only takes a generation to get a fresh supply of force sensitives and if the sith can rebuild their order from nothing but holocrons and/or force ghosts, there is no reason to believe that the jedi couldn't do the same, especially since they wouldn't have to do so in secret. Hell, Luke did it within his lifetime with a still active empire trying to kill him. Or, if you prefer, you could just say that the surviving jedi bent the rules and started a jedi harem to mass produce force sensitive babies. Whatever works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuuKage Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Or, if you prefer, you could just say that the surviving jedi bent the rules and started a jedi harem to mass produce force sensitive babies. Whatever works for you. alternatively, Mira could've taught all the new Padawans the basics of hunting down mates...just don't forget to check their bounties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrisG Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Waiting to see what will be unveiled...at this point just about everything still remains to be seen. I am guessing seeing how smart and good Biowar is and how well Lucas tries to support both the story AND the community it will be fine in all respects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I got the same when I play SWG, Oh god nother Jedaai Dont care, I play these games to be a Jedi, I like Jedi, I pay $14 a month, I'll do what the hell I like, 200k other players do the same? so be it, there choice too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Exactly...and according to Bioware, you're the hero, so f*ck it Plis, there will be multiple servers I guess, so it won't be like...millions of Jedi running around. The other jobs will be needed to. I remember the great Guild Wars Monk draught of '05. Dang what a terrible time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 If it's PvE, it doesn't matter how many Jedi there are--it's still you against the universe rather than you against all the griefers and n00bs. In PvP, as long as they balance the skill sets and create a level playing field, it won't matter how many Jedi there are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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