mimartin Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I have been told on several occasions that I can't be a Christian because I'm a lefty Most of the reason I wander to the left is because of my faith and my belief system. However, some friends and family members have told me the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 Most of the reason I wander to the left is because of my faith and my belief system. However, some friends and family members have told me the same thing.If I were you, I'd tell them to first read The Communist Manifesto, and then read the Gospels. The parallels start popping up really fast. Historically, I'd say that Jesus was the first modern socialist. A great number of his parables have what we identify today as liberal themes, especially The Two Debtors, and most certainly The Good Samaritan. Some examples: And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord; And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 and he so loved the world he bequeathed bootstraps to all of his children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I have been told on several occasions that I can't be a Christian because I'm a lefty Most of the reason I wander to the left is because of my faith and my belief system. However, some friends and family members have told me the same thing. Same here. _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanir Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 If I were you, I'd tell them to first read The Communist Manifesto, and then read the Gospels. The parallels start popping up really fast. Historically, I'd say that Jesus was the first modern socialist. A great number of his parables have what we identify today as liberal themes, especially The Two Debtors, and most certainly The Good Samaritan. Lucky me as a virtual orphan (our mother-dear is still technically alive) got to grow up in religious hostels. Sometimes staffed by fundamentalist nutjobs, sometimes...um fundamentalist nutjobs. As I understand it, being one has little choice but to become somewhat argumentative in a fundamental religious environment, is that the primary concern with communism was its redefinition of religion, which is faith based and not quite so literally defined. For example, you can believe in a higher power and be Mr Religion, but the moment you describe its molecular composition you're working for the other team. That's roughly how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allronix Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 *laughter* I remember explaining to two nice Socialists from Australia why my Pagan faith drives my political convictions rather than clashing with it. The Wiccan Rede reads "If it harms none, do as you will." To horde limited resources and enrich yourself at the expense of others harms them, and also harms you (as you must invest in measures to guard your horde). The Earth was made for all creatures to share. To decrease biodiversity may make you profit in the short term, but leaves a lot of long-term weaknesses and trouble. My main issue with capitalism as it is practiced (now, and even in centuries past) is its myopic forcus on the short term. It's "grab all you can today, and hope tomorrow there's still something to grab." It encouratges greed, abuse, short-term planning, and other "but everyone's doing it" unethical behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Looks like a Wicca discussion branching off--if you all would like, j7 or I will be happy to split it off into a new thread if you want to continue down that direction. Split to a new topic; http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?p=2559339#post2559339 - Please continue the Wicca discussion there -- j7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I checked this out and looking at where it put me and where it put others... It's very innacurate. That, and categorization of people like this test does isn't very accurate either... Edit: Okay not that innaccurate. It's accurate based on the parameters it uses. It really depends where you consider center to be, if we were using San Francisco or the mainstream media to define what a moderate would be then this test would be inaccurate. However, California and the mainstream media are not representive of the United States. So in my opinion this test is actually rather accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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