Drunkside Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I have been in high school for half a year now( actually the school is called lukio, but its quite close to high school, just the finnish version) and the advice i can give is: listen to your mp3/ipod all the time, volunteer to answer the questions if you think you can, and read well for the tests. And if you get bullied, learn to fight. Thats how i got rid of it when i was younger and it has helped me ever since. And i am doing well there, and i might actually join the army. Why? I dunno what i want to do, but fightings what i understand the most. Tho finland has a compulsory military service too:xp: Its actually easier to be successful than many think. Its just about doing the work you are given instead of playing WOW til 6am and then noticing that "omg i gotta get to school, and ive got nothing done". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Agh, that annoys me. Especially those people who think they're terribly clever and 'tip you off' about his books... >.> . iknorite? _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Hoon Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 ...just saying that I've known people who have skipped field trips to 6 flags so they could have lunch at subway with their girlfriend...I think that's sweet, but since I'm a member of the evil gender hellbent on subjugating you with feminine wiles, how could my opinion matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adavardes Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I think that's sweet, but since I'm a member of the evil gender hellbent on subjugating you with feminine wiles, how could my opinion matter? Quoted for win. Oh, and jawathehutt, I am just assuming that anyone I'm giving this advice to is mature enough to handle a relationship, I.E. anyone who takes it seriously enough to not place an expiration date on it, or stereotype it as the "typical high school fling". Anyone who isn't mature enough to fit those requirements, I no longer bother speaking directly to. Waste of valuable brain cells, imo. Oh, and six flags isn't a top priority thing, ergo, it isn't really a travesty when you skip a visit to spend time with someone you genuinely care about. Perhaps you would have more luck in your relationships if you recognized a real emotional attachment's value in relation to some roller coasters, and junk food that costs way too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Guess where that relationship went as soon as the guy left for college and the girl still had a year of high school. You may value spending time with a person you've known for a few years who you might continue to see but later in life but likely not; but I would much rather spend time with friends I've known since kindergarten who've been with me through the best and worst times of my life. And the reason I have these ideas is because I'm sick and tired of hearing all of my friends bitching up a storm as they leave each failed relationship only to have them fall in the exact same pattern. You keep mentioning how people need to have some maturity to have a relationship, gues what, a lot of high school students dont have that maturity which results in all of the crap that I talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 And what happens if you form a relationship with one of those friends from kindergarten, jawa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Oh, and six flags isn't a top priority thing, ergo, it isn't really a travesty when you skip a visit to spend time with someone you genuinely care about. Perhaps you would have more luck in your relationships if you recognized a real emotional attachment's value in relation to some roller coasters, and junk food that costs way too much. Well said. _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Quoted for win. Oh, and six flags isn't a top priority thing, ergo, it isn't really a travesty when you skip a visit to spend time with someone you genuinely care about. Perhaps you would have more luck in your relationships if you recognized a real emotional attachment's value in relation to some roller coasters, and junk food that costs way too much. Quoted for even more win. I don't much care for six flags. I get'cha, though. If she really likes you and cares about you, and she sees you give up something you really like and care for, all just for her, it will definitely set you in for some major + points with her. If she feels the same way, she'll do the same for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1183 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 i am in high school right now and he has a point about defending yourself my school here wont let you they see it as it doesnt matter who started it why or any of it just who was involved and if thats you you either get AEP for half the year or juvy now as for the not-having-a-girlfriend-past-highschool attitude that is a damn lie and it should NOT be believed most of the "adult" friend i have are still with their highschool sweethearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 You know, I find it strange that schools these days have rules where self-defense is not allowed, you can get something really bad if you do. I think it's ridiculous that a person can be severly punished for simply defending yourself. If you are cornered with some bad people wanting to get something from you, self-defense would make sense, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Maybe the laws are different where you are, but here in Canada, a pre-emptive strike or the carrying of a weapon at school does not constitute self defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Yeah, the carrying of a weapon here at any school is also illegal, but in the event of being struck first should constitute self-defense, not by a weapon, though, other than hands and feet. Pre-emptive strikes are not really self-defence, though. That's ending the problem before it begins, which is for a country to do, not students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1183 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 yup i agree Q but like i said you cant carry weapons in Texas either but for example kid 1 gets mad at kid 2 well kid 1 hits kid2 kid 2 hits kid 1 back and poof they are both in AEP or juvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Huh. At my old school,if there was a fight both students were suspended for a few days. it didn't matter who did what, even if the kid didn't hit back they were still both suspended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adavardes Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Huh. At my old school,if there was a fight both students were suspended for a few days. it didn't matter who did what, even if the kid didn't hit back they were still both suspended That... is exceptionally unfair. How are you supposed to control whether or not someone decides to attack you? How is that your fault? To me, that just doesn't seem like something rightfully punishable, in fact, it seems to me like a lack of communication or care for investigation on the school's part. They don't care to figure out who instigated the fight, so they just resolve it by punishing both. Best thing to do is try to reason. Use your head first, not your fists, try to talk the person down. If that doesn't work, well, try to stop him, not hurt him. If you know how to pacify an enemy, not cause him harm, that is the best kind of defense against these things. Negotation, then pacification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 At my old High School, I regularly stepped in and defended people physically, and I was in fact commended, not suspended. As long as you didn't initiate the fight and fought only in defence of your own safety or that of others, you were dismissed with thanks. Near the end of my days at school, more people had begun to do the same - or at the very least, were perfectly willing to step up and help the office differentiate the attacker from the target. Which is really the problem in most schools today: witnesses aren't willing to step forward and do the right thing, for whatever reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 That... is exceptionally unfair. How are you supposed to control whether or not someone decides to attack you? How is that your fault? To me, that just doesn't seem like something rightfully punishable, in fact, it seems to me like a lack of communication or care for investigation on the school's part. They don't care to figure out who instigated the fight, so they just resolve it by punishing both. Best thing to do is try to reason. Use your head first, not your fists, try to talk the person down. If that doesn't work, well, try to stop him, not hurt him. If you know how to pacify an enemy, not cause him harm, that is the best kind of defense against these things. Negotation, then pacification. Our principle came up with that rule because so many people were lying about he did what, and i agree it was unfair, i protested this rule many times and i get suspended at one point for doing so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_man Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Unles it is absolutely necessary, do Not use violence. Even if someone does attack you, just try to back, and calm them down. If you really fell threatened, take some martial arts classes, they really help you control your anger, and defend yourself without hurting the other person. Don't be afraid to stand up for other people if you are a witness to a fight. If you come forward and confess, the school will most likely make sure you aren't threatened. The only other tip is to not care about popularity. Just because you wear the wrong brand of clothing is no reason to exclude someone. If people judge you on that, they don't deserve to be friends with you. If people start teasing you becuase you are the unpopular kid, just say so "So what?" I speak from personal experience, and that will deter most bullies while they try and think of a witty response outside of a "your momma" joke. That is about the most useful advice i can give you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Yep, diplomacy first, you could even gain a friend from such tactics {though maybe not the most trustworthy one} but if diplomacy fails...well...run, or if your cornered, defense may be the only option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 This kinda goes against Da_Man'spost, but if you see a fight you should just avoid it, if you get involved you may have to share the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 It also goes against human decency, Chev. If you see someone who needs help, you help, consequences be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I nearly got expelled for trying to help once. the only thing you can really do is encourage the kid to report it and back him up when he goes to the teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Sort of going along with the getting in trouble theme, get to know the personality of your school cop if your school has one. Some can be really good people you should get to know at least a little, it cant really hurt you. On the other hand, sometimes you get useless rent-a-cops who dont give a damn about their job or cops who are downright thugs and are hated pretty much throughout the school. Dont bother trying to get to know these people better, they'll probably just try to bully you into confessing to anythin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabish Bini Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Sort of going along with the getting in trouble theme, get to know the personality of your school cop if your school has one. Some can be really good people you should get to know at least a little, it cant really hurt you. On the other hand, sometimes you get useless rent-a-cops who dont give a damn about their job or cops who are downright thugs and are hated pretty much throughout the school. Dont bother trying to get to know these people better, they'll probably just try to bully you into confessing to anythin. School cop? is it just me, or did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Catto Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 ^^ I don't think Aussie schools have school cops. Mine didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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