jonathan7 Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 I don't really see why piciting funerals isn't just made illegal... Skirts the whole free speech aspect.
mimartin Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 jonathan7 said: I don't really see why piciting funerals isn't just made illegal... Skirts the whole free speech aspect. Because the law itself would most likely be unconstitutional as it restricts someone’s right to free speech. Guess we could make a constitutional amendment forbidding protest at funerals, but we can’t even agree on where ground zero ends. There is no way we would get Congress and then 38 states to agree before Westbro has gone the way of the dinosaur.
Samuel Dravis Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Basically, it's because then it would set precedent for someone to decide what people can and can't protest on public land. I am not personally willing to allow any of the ideological crazies in charge of the government that ability, even if it does have the unfortunate result that things like this happen occasionally.
Tommycat Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Samuel Dravis said: Basically, it's because then it would set precedent for someone to decide what people can and can't protest on public land. I am not personally willing to allow any of the ideological crazies in charge of the government that ability, even if it does have the unfortunate result that things like this happen occasionally. Agree. As much as I dislike WBC and their ilk, I'd rather put up with them than risk someone deciding what free speech really means.
Jae Onasi Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 This makes me want to join the group that lines the funeral route to protect the family from ever seeing the Westho people. At least the Supreme court said that nothing in their decision would prevent municipalities from putting some limits on their protesting, such as allowing them no closer than 1000 feet to a funeral procession.
urluckyday Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 This is the problem with inbreeding. That entire church is made up of like one family, and they all practice the same, warped "understanding" of religion. I would like to take a swing at any one of them...
Tommycat Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Jae Onasi said: This makes me want to join the group that lines the funeral route to protect the family from ever seeing the Westho people. That would be Project Angel Wings. They use huge wings to block out the WBC
Darth Avlectus Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 urluckyday said: This is the problem with inbreeding. That entire church is made up of like one family, and they all practice the same, warped "understanding" of religion. I would like to take a swing at any one of them... Kanabi, sledgehammer, bat anyone?
Tommycat Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 GTA:SWcity said: Kanabi, sledgehammer, bat anyone? Personally I'd rather swing a minigun in their direction.
Samuel Dravis Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 I hope you guys acknowledge the irony of advocating violent ends to those who disagree with you while believing in your own ability to promote those ends with impunity (which frankly is more deserving of censorship than anything Westboro has said).
purifier Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 ^Not only that, radical religious groups like Westbro would love for anybody to verbally threaten them, or actually do physically harm to them. This way they could come off looking like the victims and be the innocent "poor me" type, while shoveling the "hey were the good guys and look what they did to us, that proves it" to the public. The best thing to do is a anti protest against this church. You could even push their religious buttons with accusations such as: all of them being possessed and one of their members being the antichrist as I joked about earlier in this thread. Fight fire with fire I say.
mimartin Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 I don't really think Westbro cares about what others say or think about them as long as people are saying and thinking things about them.
Tommycat Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 Samuel and Purifier: LIGHTEN THE EFF UP! It was a joke! While I despise them I have no intention of shooting, maiming, or in any way attacking them physically. They are like the KKK. I have no respect for them whatsoever, but if they want to go and protest, fine. I am however happy that there are groups like "Angel Wings" that use peaceful methods to prevent the grieving families from seeing them. Granted, if I saw someone beating the "pastor" within an inch of his life, I MIGHT just develop amnesia. And please note that they are barely associated with religion. Their financial structure is wholly supported by litigation. They sue people who attack them. They are like those people who slip and fall in the stores to get money from the store. They don't care about your accusations about them being possessed and being the antichrist. Because frankly they are less about religion and more about tricking people into attacking them. And sometimes the best way to fight fire is with a liberal application of water. In this case the water is the "Angel Wings" team(also called "Angel Action"). What they do is the following: Construct a set of large wings roughly 8 feet by 10 feet Stand as a living wall between the WBC and the mourners Do not talk to antagonize or otherwise engage the WBC members.
purifier Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 Tommycat said: Samuel and Purifier: LIGHTEN THE EFF UP! It was a joke! Lol. Don't really care about anybody's jokes doing these people any harm TC, I was just pointing a few things out that some MIGHT wanna consider if any were really serious. Otherwise I could really give a flying (you know what) what happens to the WBC. Tommycat said: While I despise them I have no intention of shooting, maiming, or in any way attacking them physically. They are like the KKK. I have no respect for them whatsoever, but if they want to go and protest, fine. I am however happy that there are groups like "Angel Wings" that use peaceful methods to prevent the grieving families from seeing them. Granted, if I saw someone beating the "pastor" within an inch of his life, I MIGHT just develop amnesia. That is completely understandable and I can see your point of view on this. Mine is about the same. Tommycat said: And please note that they are barely associated with religion. Their financial structure is wholly supported by litigation. They sue people who attack them. They are like those people who slip and fall in the stores to get money from the store. They don't care about your accusations about them being possessed and being the antichrist. Because frankly they are less about religion and more about tricking people into attacking them. Well that was just a suggestion, probably a lousy suggestion on my part, but I was just putting that out there as an example. I didn't know about the "Angel Wings" group, or I probably wouldn't have made any suggestions in the first place. Tommycat said: And sometimes the best way to fight fire is with a liberal application of water. In this case the water is the "Angel Wings" team(also called "Angel Action"). What they do is the following: Construct a set of large wings roughly 8 feet by 10 feet Stand as a living wall between the WBC and the mourners Do not talk to antagonize or otherwise engage the WBC members. Awesome! Now all they need to do is figure out a way to drown out the WBC's voices during their protests.
JediAthos Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 There was also a group of bikers that were going to the funerals and using their motorcycles to drown out these Westboro clowns...the name of the group escapes me at the moment though.
Sabretooth Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 They'd be more effective if they considered running over them.
Tommycat Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 JediAthos said: There was also a group of bikers that were going to the funerals and using their motorcycles to drown out these Westboro clowns...the name of the group escapes me at the moment though. Patriot Guard Riders is one, but most bikers I know are happy to donate their straight pipes to effectively silence WBC. You know it's bad when even hardcore bikers think you have no class.
Darth Avlectus Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 Sabretooth said: They'd be more effective if they considered running over them. THAT'S RIGHT! It is the first amendment right of all American citizens to make limb stew out of the westborough zealots as well as anyone who disagrees with them!
Tysyacha Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 I am 99.999999% sure Sabretooth was kidding. The other 1% would gawk at the melee.
Darth Avlectus Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 And I'm 115.99999999999999999999% positive I'm just perpetuating his same sarcasm. If you haven't noticed, Sabre and I run together in the shenanigans business. To any and all that think I'm serious about going and beating the westborogh numbskulls down unprovoked, read the first line of post#39 primarily directed at sam D. because this applies to you too. Hey Sabrez, after we're done running over those hicks, what do you say we go get a bite to eat at the black market cannibalism cafe? My treat.
Sabretooth Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 GTA:SWcity said: And I'm 115.99999999999999999999% positive I'm just perpetuating his same sarcasm. If you haven't noticed, Sabre and I run together in the shenanigans business. (My stake is 89.72%, by the way) GTA:SWcity said: Hey Sabrez, after we're done running over those hicks, what do you say we go get a bite to eat at the black market cannibalism cafe? My treat. Only if we get to stop by Satanic Demon Pirate's for ice cream!
urluckyday Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 GTA:SWcity said: To any and all that think I'm serious about going and beating the westborogh numbskulls down unprovoked, read the first line of post#39 primarily directed at sam D. because this applies to you too. I'm not kidding...I see nothing wrong with beating the living daylights out of those people even if they don't do anything to me.
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