mimartin Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 wasnt that said about videos to dvds? Nope, I said thank god we got rid of that awful tape. I’m older than most here. It took me awhile to come to grips with downloading music without the CD or downloading games without the disc. Still haven't wrapped my mind around books without the book, but I bought a Kindle recently for my mother. She loves books, but you can’t change the font size on a book. Guess I'll start getting use to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 She loves books, but you can’t change the font size on a book. Use magnifying glasses like a pro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I don't think that ebooks will ever replace real books entirely. It'll happen man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 Paperless worldwide compilation of all history and knowledge completely stored on system, system crash irrecoverably in 3, 2, 1... No adjustable text font? No problem. Now maybe the electricity might fail but you still have the mechanical arm and the lens, so 2 out of 3 isn't bad. While I don't know if books would survive so very much longer than an eReader, the low tech approach more often than not seems to cone through when modern amenities fail. I forgot to mention a fourth, very remote possibility: A super bacteria is created out of man's arrogance that happens to consume petrol based products. *prepares for the eReader crowd to start throwing shoes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Used up two Borders gift cards I had lying around today. Still can't believe it's closing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I'm going to be honest, people who bitch about e-readers are annoying and panicking for no reason what so ever. I have an e-reader. I love it, its so convenient, sometimes. When I travel, it takes up the space of half a book and holds 500. But guess what, I can't read it at pools or beaches, I never let it leave my sight, frankly, its a pain in the ass to take a lot of places. Not only that, but for things like textbooks or books I read for classes, its so much easier to have a real book. You can highlight in nooks, but its a pain. And that's why I still buy books too. People act like paper books are going to disappear. Guess what, they aren't. Unless someone invents a device that is water proof, can never be stolen, never dies, can be marked up with little effort and time and feels like a book, books are not going to die. Like other people have pointed out, a computer error would wipe out an ebooks memory. Good thing BOOKS ARE NOT GOING TO DIE. Seriously, people who complain about e-readers need to realize that A. there's a lot of others like them, who publishers are not going to just screw over, B. We aren't about to burn books because they don't have E in front of them and C. No one is forcing anyone to buy an ereader or read e-books. I have never seen a book worth reading only as a e-book. I have seen books as only paper books. Also, the anti-e-book crowd needs to stop acting like they're old men complaining about how easy kids have it now a days. It makes as much sense as acting like that because you saw someone reading news online instead of from a magazine. Both are completely viable choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Use magnifying glasses like a pro! No adjustable text font? No problem. Now maybe the electricity might fail but you still have the mechanical arm and the lens, so 2 out of 3 isn't bad. You know how hard it is for a 76 year old woman to carry around a magnifying glass with the magnifying power of the Hubble Telescope? Trust me I bought her a top of the line magnifying glass with the arm and the ability to magnify an entire page at once, but that just isn't practical for her to carry to church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 You can highlight in nooks, but its a pain. If you haven't already, check out the 2nd gen. Touchscreen annotation ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 If you haven't already, check out the 2nd gen. Touchscreen annotation ftw Thats what I have, a nook color. Compared to highlighting real books, its still a pain. The one advantage is being able to skip from one highlighted section to another with a finger tap. They need to make that feature in real books. Like an e-book in a book. They could call it an e-bobookok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 @mim: Ok, I guess I walked into that one. Good point. By the way, where in God's name did you find a magnifier THAT powerful? I hope you didn't kill anyone I know for it. :ninja1: *Looks around, does not see Kavar's but sees someone trying to make it Kavar's* I'm going to be honest, people who bitch about e-readers are annoying and panicking for no reason what so ever. I see no posts here which necessarily indicate any panicked mindset. Maybe a few critics. Now it could just be me, but it seems more like you're hyperbolizing some of my points and attacking your distorted version of what I'm saying. Besides, were I stone dead serious: 1) I'd have posted this in Kavar's 2) I would not have posted "alternative uses" so nonchalantly (like burning books) 3) Pavlos would not have interjected such an awesome piece (Thanks Pavy!). I persoanlly took it as a sign to poke fun. I'm sorry if you took issue with this. People act like paper books are going to disappear. Who is acting that way? Are you generalizing about a type of person, or are you addressing certain people here? Sure, I've pointed out advantages and disadvantages between eBooks and paper books. Allow me to clarify something: paper books aren't going anywhere fast despite eReader popularity. Attacking printing presses are pointless gestures at best which I'd think is fairly obvious. Maybe I wasn't clear about that--so what? Don't accuse me of something I never said, nor implied. Guess what, they aren't. Unless someone invents a device that is water proof, can never be stolen, never dies, can be marked up with little effort and time and feels like a book, books are not going to die. I'm pretty sure our friends D3 and Q covered this, yes. Like other people have pointed out, a computer error would wipe out an ebooks memory. Good thing BOOKS ARE NOT GOING TO DIE. Indirectly barbing someone by paraphrasing them but pretend to be criticizing a group of people. Beligerence noted. Seriously, people who complain about e-readers need to realize I have never seen a book worth reading only as a e-book. I have seen books as only paper books. Now I remember saying I didn't like eReaders, and I meant it as a matter of personal taste, not quite as a complaint--I'd need to have owned one and used it for an appreciable period of time for that to be legitimate. Again, you seem to be attacking something I never said. Also, the anti-e-book crowd *Looks up and down thread, sees only fans and critics of eBooks and not some anti eBook "crowd" stalin-mario brothers seems to be talking about* needs to stop acting like they're old men complaining about how easy kids have it now a days. I don't see anyone here acting like they're old men talking about the good old days. That certainly wasn't how I meant to come across. So... It makes as much sense as acting like that because you saw someone reading news online instead of from a magazine. Or about as much sense as a rant of passive-aggessive barbs indirectly at one person but claiming it's a group. In this case (to the best I can tell) of anti-eReader-real-book-death conspiracy theorists. When someone indirectly attacks another in such a manner, it indicates a certain hostility. Is this the case? Because if you have some kind of personal problem with me, I want to hear it right now. What's the issue? If that's not correct, then may we know why such a ...general group with a specific set of opinions irritates you so much besides what you already pointed out? Both are completely viable choices. I agree actually. In fact I get my news from Yahoo among other sources as you can see in my OP. Frankly I had meant for this to be a more sociable thread as opposed to a contentious one. Sorry if something about it is irritating you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Bah, I enjoyed Borders. Not only for the books, but they usually had a good selection of cult/british/sci fi DVDs to buy. Also, one of the few stores around me to actually carry european metal bands on CD. So long and thanks for all the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 If you haven't already, check out the 2nd gen Thats what I have, a nook color. Compared to highlighting real books, its still a pain. I was referring to this. I find that tapping and dragging with my finger is more convenient and precise than with a highlighter, but obviously preferences vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taak Farst Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 My Kindle 3 (The new one) is a great eReader and quite a cheap one too at £111 for the Wi-Fi model, (£159 for the 3G model, but 3G annoys me. Bad gimmick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 What you said It wasn't meant to be an attack against you, more of just a very vocal group of people I'm friends with on facebook feel the need to complain nonstop every time they see someone with an e-reader. Seeing complaining about ebooks sent me over the edge. I apologize if you thought I was directing this at you. I"m going to be honest, I didn't even read you're first response until now, my post was more of just a rant against people who treat books like they're the next dodo. I was referring to this. I find that tapping and dragging with my finger is more convenient and precise than with a highlighter, but obviously preferences vary. I tried that one, seemed about the same as the color except with a lower price tag, longer battery life and fewer advanced features. My color has a touch screen as well, it may be that my fingers are too big and clumsy for precise touch screen usage that gives me the bias towards real highlighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I don't like e-readers only because I don't see the point of a device that can only really do one thing. If people are going to invest in something like that you may as well get a tablet so you can do other things too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 ^Hadn't considered that but you do make a good point. It wasn't meant to be an attack against you, more of just a very vocal group of people I'm friends with on facebook feel the need to complain nonstop every time they see someone with an e-reader. Seeing complaining about ebooks sent me over the edge. I apologize if you thought I was directing this at you. I"m going to be honest, I didn't even read you're first response until now, my post was more of just a rant against people who treat books like they're the next dodo. Ah. Well I'm sorry if I misunderstood you then. Pay it no mind as I was replying because I found your rant perplexing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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