Flamegrape Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 Really good work so far! Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Nasty Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 this model is looking really good now! when i saw the first few pics i thought it was good but it has improved greatly after seeing the latest pic with the robe i am really looking forward to the release:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiThLoRd><1000 Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 Hawk, I meant no offense. I'm just saying to pin things on people that are really our own mistakes is not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Widow Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 Just don't forget to make his body longer and in proportion, he looks like a midget right now Looking good other than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinCoyle Posted September 13, 2002 Author Share Posted September 13, 2002 A midget? I don't see how. His proportions are correctly set to the bones for a Jedi Knight 2 humanoid. If a make his body longer he won't fit the bones anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonces Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 I'm not sure that's what Scarlet Widow meant exactly. I think keo nailed it though, you just have to slant his shoulders a little, he looks just a little too bulky up in the torso area, makes him look younger and stronger than the charecter is. You can cheat the Skeleton a little bit The Textures look very nice, your doing a great job on Obi Toonces http://www.drivingcatstudios.com Powered by Sith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgit Yoda Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 Man this model is coming along great. I'll admit on the first screen you posted I was like, oh god but now I'm blown away. Looks great, keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinCoyle Posted September 14, 2002 Author Share Posted September 14, 2002 perhaps I did post my first screenshot a little too early..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<JOTD>Jedi Hunter Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 Well, Kevin despite your own opinion I think that was a smart move. It helps any would be modelers out there. Shows them that it doesn't look this good at first. For that I think you made a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<JOTD>Jedi Hunter Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 Ok, I think everyone needs to calm down. If you're irratated with something someone has said bring it up to them in a pm, not in someones model thread. Just out of respect for the modeler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASk Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 The posts that the flame war started in were deleted. Please do not do that next time, that could lead you to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiThLoRd><1000 Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 I'm sorry Ask. I'll try to be more respectful to Odd and other modelers. I just don't like people who pop off and at the same time are ignorent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpYzEr Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 Wow its looking great KevilCoyle... can't wait till its finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Widow Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Originally posted by KevinCoyle A midget? I don't see how. His proportions are correctly set to the bones for a Jedi Knight 2 humanoid. If a make his body longer he won't fit the bones anymore. Is it really? Did you base the body off of one of the original JKII meshes? Maybe it is just the shoulders as meantioned.. i don't know, something looks very wrong though. EDIT: Looking at it a little more closely, the problem is definetly because of the shoulders and the waist.. he just looks too wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinCoyle Posted September 17, 2002 Author Share Posted September 17, 2002 Almost finished. Really all that's left is to add a bit more detail to the robe skin, smooth some seams in the skin and fix some Unwrapping errors that you'll notice in one of the below renderings, after that and a few more things are tweaked, I'll be ready to start setting Ben up for the game. Here's a full screenshot FullScreenshot And a shot of the face FaceShot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 That looks good, but I think you might run into some issues with the sleeves clipping his sides. To fix this, You could angle the wide part away from his body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<JOTD>Jedi Hunter Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Though I think it looks great I have one suggestion. I would suggest that you have the ends of the sleeves point back and not to his side. Only because most of the time his arms will be bent (when holding a saber/gun). But it does look fantastic. Thanks for making a robed version. You've done great. Lol, oh sorry Vigrid beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonces Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Jedi Hunter, that's one thing I forgot to mention before, with Palpatine I had to model the sleeves pointing backwards. If you rig them like you have them now, when he holds weapons, the sleeves will be diging right into his torso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinCoyle Posted September 17, 2002 Author Share Posted September 17, 2002 Fixed the sleeves, thanks for the tip, I checked some other models in progress when I started on the body a noticed they had the sleeves the same way I did, I figured it would be alright, but since you guys have already gotten models with drooping sleeves into the game(Emperor Palpatine & Joruus C'Boath(looking forward to both BTW)), you'd know better than I would. You probably saved me alot of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keo718 Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 This looks real good. Is it ingame yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 A few comments/suggestions: 1) I think the skin is lacking some serious detail. Ben's clothes had a much more rough texture, and were frayed in some places. Your textures look smooth and new. Try and get them a little closer to the movies, if possible. 2) I think there is something missing in the face. When I see it, I just don't think, "Yep! That's Ben Kenobi." Maybe it's something in the eyes. It doesn't look quite right. In general, it just looks a little rushed to me. I'm very excited about a Ben Kenobi model, I would just prefer it to be the best it can possibly be. A good approach to take would be to not "sacrifice quality for speed," as -Tercero- has said (when it comes to modeling). Really take your time and try to make it look as much like Ben as possible. It's good right now, but it could be great! And without greatness, I'm still kinda hungry for a great Ben Kenobi model/skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomad Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Looking really nice I was wondering if you received my emails. Let me know if you want to take me up on my offer. I honestly think that the face looks fantastic. The underobes look really good, but I agree that the outer robe doesn't quite look beaten up enough. I have one other suggestion. The bottom of his under-robe (the beige robes) only really ever opened up when he was sitting down. And even then I only remember them opening up when he was in Dagobah talking to Luke (ROTJ). It may even help you in the weighting process to close those under-robes at the bottom. Not a big deal, just something that caught my eye. His robes generally hung down almost like a long skirt. -nomad MTFBWY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiThLoRd><1000 Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 You may have answered this, but I was too lazy to read through all the posts so Are you going to make an unrobed and hooded robed? (One with just the underrobes and another with his cloak hood up) Just curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<JOTD>Jedi Hunter Posted September 18, 2002 Share Posted September 18, 2002 Sithlord brings up a great point. No one's ever done a hooded robed Jedi model before. I think you should seriously considor that. That would be pretty sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Forget about robed/unrobed. I'll settle for the most accurate model of Ben Kenobi. Get that done, then I'll start worrying about robed/hooded/unrobed versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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