rfa_vasquez Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Give me your opinion on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Spy Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 ok Darth Vader defeated Obi Wan. Obi Wan defeated Darth Maul.....isnt it a bit obvious who would win? Luke>Darth Vader>Obi Wan>Darth Maul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Vader, but this belongs in the swamp. *urges for the yoink button* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Originally posted by obi-wan13 Vader, but this belongs in the swamp. *urges for the yoink button* AHAHAHA you cant press the yoink button because.... wait for it... YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Ya got that right. yoink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 oh, I thought it was becauseI am not a mod of the valley forum. Silly me...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorganfloss Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Maul would kick vaders ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Yes... to bad he was cut in half by a padawan. *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorganfloss Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 lol I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 If Vader wasn't the chosen one then Maul would own Vader. But since Vader is the chosen one then Vader would win hands down. Vader had to throw things and stuff. Maul rarely used the Force against his oppent's except when he pushed Obi-Wan into the pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Originally posted by Boba Rhett Yes... to bad he was cut in half by a padawan. *cough* If you would quit smoking so much you wouldn't have that coughing problem there Rhett:D As much as I like Maul, Vader would win. Vader was my favorite for many years before the phantom menace came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 It's hard to say, Vader's power / saber skill is hard to guage to PT characters as A) Vader maybe weaker than Anakin in the Force / saber combat due to all the injuries he suffers from and B) Maul's lightsaber skill probably isn't perportionate to his skills in the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaderWriter Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Originally posted by Jedi Spy ok Darth Vader defeated Obi Wan. Obi Wan defeated Darth Maul.....isnt it a bit obvious who would win? Luke>Darth Vader>Obi Wan>Darth Maul Lol! Obi Wan *let* Vader win. He looked at Luke and put his guard down on purpose. I still think Vader is more skilled than Darth Maul, who got twain in half by Obi Wan... Luke would definitely take Darth Maul! -M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Blackrose Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Oh my god, I'm agreeing with razor for once... someone find me a rope with a noose. However, I am agreeing on different grounds. If Vader's implants was the cause of his loss of saber skill, then Luke would have had the same problem with his hand. Moot point. The first 3 movies did not show any saber skill what so ever, in my eyes. I mean, look at Obi-Wan and Vader's fight in ANH. That was practically "Lets see who can wave their saber around the other's the most time!" Sure, it improved over time, but I would have to say the main lightsaber fights in Phantom Menace and AotC were more intense then the earlier ones. If they did a remake and had Vader's saber choreography on par to what Maul had in Phantom Menace, Vader would own Maul hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 I was refering to the fact that Vader is less organic than Anakin...I brings up the question..Do you lose part of your connection to the Force when you lose parts of your body or is it based simply on the density of Force "talent" inside your brain? We don't know for sure. My guess is brain density, sense your willpower/contentration is what allows you to use the Force. A little off topic, but along the same lines, but physical strength and speed only has a minor effect on your lightsaber combat abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 No, you do not lose part of your connection to the force. It's the concentration that counts. Just look at Yoda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiclone Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 i honestly think that if Maul didnt die vader would not become. So think of Maul being a nice guy in letting some one else kill a lot of Jedi. That is pretty hard for Maul cuz thats all he wanted to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 What a guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<JOTD>Jedi Hunter Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Originally posted by Ratmjedi If Vader wasn't the chosen one then Maul would own Vader. But since Vader is the chosen one then Vader would win hands down. Vader had to throw things and stuff. Maul rarely used the Force against his oppent's except when he pushed Obi-Wan into the pit. Vader was testing Lukes abilities when he was chucking those things at him. He's smarter in that respect then ol' Maul was. Though in the looks department Maul wins. But since this is strength and abilities, Maul would be completely ripped apart. But that's just one obsessive old school star wars fans views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 I respect youre views man. My opinion was mine and thats the way I think. I can see were you are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhiteRaider Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Obi-won was old when Vader killed him. And this wouldn't work. It could be like Maul beats Luke,Luke beats Vader,Vaders beat Obi-won, and Obi-won beats Maul. Of course there would be no way of proving either of them. Luke>Darth Vader>Obi Wan>Darth Maul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 I'll tell you what, the way Maul died was such PANTS! No way he woulda just stood there while Obi jumped over him! Maul was great and he should not have died in such a stupid way. Anyway... I think if it really came down to it, Vader in his prime would beat Maul. His force powers would outdo his easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfa_vasquez Posted September 9, 2002 Author Share Posted September 9, 2002 I have a lot of ppl agreeing with me YAY!!!!! I agree.If you look at the way Maul fights with a sabre and to the way Vader fights.Vader would easily outdo Maul.Vader uses 1 hand and Maul uses 2.So he is weakened and Vaders Force Power are way stronger than Maul's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Maz Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Well, all you vader fans im sorry to disapoint you, but Darth Maul would win, the facts are. Vader has force, well woopy doo, hes slow and big and cumbersom. Darth Maul, was FAST acrobatic and was 10X better at light sabre. So you think becuase vader had more control of the force he was better? well why didnt he beat luke seeing as luke RARELY used the force, but simply beat him in sabre. And how do you know that darth maul wasnt as good with the force, simply because he didnt use it much. anyway this actual thread is just a big case of IF this and IF that, so its pointless, and we will never know so why waste time arguing as the guy above said, obi wan wasnt *defeated* he droped his guard cos he knew he would be more use dead than alive, so obi wan has allways been the best an he owns everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<JOTD>Jedi Hunter Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 See saber skill has nothing to so with the movies. Do you think in the early 80's late 70's they had the best skills? No, truth is if they were filmed around this time vader would be much faster. And in the sw universe one can't just weild a lightsaber. If you wished to weild it correctly you would have to be "linked" to it with the force. Almost becoming one with the saber. That enables those amazing saber swings. So vader would have whomped maul because of his force ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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