BCanr2d2 Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 I agree with the others, it is all relative.... What direction is up? That itself is relative, that is just away from the centre of gravity... I am gonna stick with the "away from me" call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Omega Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 To Havoc: I swear to god you are copying my science book, it's EXACTLY like that. (The laws). Yeah I pretty much agree with the two. Going by this point of reference, the Earth, you are not in motion. Throwing the ball up will be up relative to you, as someone said. To the other side of the world, you'd be throwing it down however. Damn my 8th Grade mind cannot withstand all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Originally posted by leXX ... which direction is it travelling? The obvious answer is up of course, but there are some things you must take into account: The rotation of the earth The orbit of the earth around the sun The rotation of the galaxy The fact that the universe is expanding so what direction is it travelling in? slanted to the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 As I said just before, all is relative... How come on the other side of the world you consider it down? Up is really relative to the centre of gravity, not to where you are. There is no up nor down without gravity, so I am still throwing it up even though I am in Australia. According what some of you say, the only real place you would through up is at the North Pole, and the rest is all over the place - not even close to the reality...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 which way is the ball going? right at lexx's head for making these brain twister threads then cuting and running:p;) the answer is: not enough information from the question to define a answer. "If you throw a ball in the air which direction is it travelling?" um... from that question, the only answer that makes sence, is "away from yourself" do I win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandoFett1842 Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Cant we jsut say up? but then if you say up and you are in contenetnal america, in china it is down, and in hawaii it would be east and in germany you would be west, im so confused :confused: :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 THere is no absolute, everything is relative. relative to you the ball is travelling straight up, relative to the moon, it'll be different.... increasing the context with change the direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Relative to the point of explosion from the big bang..... it's moving away in a radial pattern, like everything, at an incredibly high speed... The expanding of the universe is by far the dominating force in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 The answer is simple; it is traveling the complete opposite direction of the ground and the place, which you (the thrower) threw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 actually, its not, coz the place where u threw it from is moving in the universe at the same speed in the same direction.... but the balls just happens to be a metre per second or so faster/slower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 relative to the point of the big bang, the ball is travelling very close to the speed of light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Actually we've slowed down immensly since then.... I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 First we need to establish what a "ball" is. Since everything is a state of mind, the ball goes in whatever direction you want it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted October 30, 2002 Author Share Posted October 30, 2002 Well don't look at me! I don't know the answer. There are some very interesting theories here, makes for damn fine reading. I have to agree that it is travelling away from and relative to you, and the GonkH8er theory that it is moving away from the Big Bang at an incredibly high speed. I still don't know WHAT direction it is travelling in though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomHelix Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 it will come down and bonk u on the head! but seriously, heres my explanation: it is traveling away from you. going up or down is only a direction in relation to an object. if u are in space, you are just there. there may seem like an up and a down, and a left and a right, but really there isn't. in space, there is no ground, there is no bottom, so there cannot be an up or a down without relation to another object. when u throw the ball, it moves away from you. it can be considered up in relation to the planet and the planet's gravity, but in reality, its merely traveling away from you. up and down are just words we give to direction with relation to an object, so that its not confusing. in reality, if you are going to apply up and down to it, it could actually be going sideways, or down. buit since there is gravity, we see it as up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 If we look at it from the center of the universe perspective, which is what Lexx's question implies, then we have a problem that'd be pretty tricky even if we knew all the vectors. and their magnitudes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomHelix Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 well, in relation to the center of the universe, anything going away from it could be considered up, and anything taking that direct route bak to it could be considered down. any move not going away from the center, instead goin either parallel or close to it, would be considered going sideways, but its all perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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