Clemme w/Stick Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Well, homeschooling kinda sucks...! It disables kids social skills, because they dont spend time with other kids their age! So this means, that they will be selfish, and so on!! -Clemme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Snape Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Originally posted by ZDawg And i need one of these at the age of 15? why? Um yea. What u wanna get ur first kiss in ur 20's? But only geeks say they don't need a girlfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 It just means they will be shunned away from the society the should be brought up in (to go to school, decelop social skills). Instead they are being forced to learn in an enclosed, isolated manner, which in my opinion is unhealthy. And what more does private tutoring have to offer than a public school does? I go to a Grant Maintained school, and a lot of my friends have private tutoring, some in all their subjects, some in just a few, and they emerged from their GCSEs unsuccessfully so to speak. I have never once had private lesson, homeschooling, whatever you want to call it. Yet I managed to get 3 A*s, 4 As and 3 Bs last year. It is a waste of time, and although it teaches children a lot about knowledge, it does not teach them about the important things in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 It's true about having no social life. really true. I had practically no social life or friends my whole stay in florida (6 years), and so I was online most of the time...and got myself a social life. I adapted. We moved to PA recently, and over 3/4 of my friends are online, and in real life all my friends are 2+ years younger than me. (1 of those friends is from where i used to live, we went to same school for a bit) so it feels kinda awkward, and I'm usually left out of some of the stuff they do, never invited to go anywhere, it pretty much sucks, but I deal with it and I don't get depressed easily. but depending what your hobbies are, being homeschooled can be a HUGE payoff. I guess i could've been considered the 'geek' in 6th grade, cause all i'd always be playing games on my snes. Homeschooling was soooo much better than any school for me. I'd do school for like 3-4 hours a day instead of 8, and would get plenty of free time to pursue learning through gaming, which eventually led to my interest in computers, and online gaming. So i guess you could say I had a electronic-social life! My online friends are more real than my face-to-face friends, and are closer to my age. Of course, i didn't really have any teachers to teach me algebra or math, so i had to bypass most of the ****, the GED didn't really have any algebra or stuff that required advanced forumulas. I was using CD's to do my work, which was REALLY good, since my parents got to leave me home alone to do the work, and i actually learned from it. Especially history and english, my favorite subjects. And since it was on computer, i didn't have to break my fingers using a pencil. For math, my mom got me Consumer/Business math, the math that actually makes sense and is used everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Originally posted by Darklighter It just means they will be shunned away from the society the should be brought up in. wth? well, why would anyone want to fit into today's society? it's so....immoral. not to mention UNHEALTHY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettingShadow Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Well, homeschooling kinda sucks...! It disables kids social skills, because they dont spend time with other kids their age! So this means, that they will be selfish, and so on!! -Clemme Uhm.... And what if you dont like to spend time with other kids at your age? Why should anyone become selfish because of that? Um yea. What u wanna get ur first kiss in ur 20's? But only geeks say they don't need a girlfriend lol wth? well, why would anyone want to fit into today's society? it's so....immoral. not to mention UNHEALTHY. Exactly my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Snape Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 darklighter i agree with u all teh way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 I take it you've never been homeschooled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Now I'm homeschooled and I have tons of friends!(suprise huh?) I have three cousins that homeschool, four friends that homeschool. I like homeschooling! And I'm not selfish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 I guess when you've never been in that position, you can't really comment on the topic at hand lol. But what I would say is that, after everything I've been through, going to a public school, making friends, and doing well, I wouldn't want to be homeschooled, because I wouldn't want to change from the life I have. And the stereotypes don't apply to everyone: we are making brief generalisations of people who are homeschooled, saying that they have no social life. I am not saying they don't have social lives, but they are persuaded not to by being privately tutored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 well, instead of challenging students to get their work done, homeschool challenges students to make friends and get a social life. I was able to overcome the challenge somewhat, by joining these forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue15 well, instead of challenging students to get their work done, homeschool challenges students to make friends and get a social life. I was able to overcome the challenge somewhat, by joining these forums. It's strange that these forums have become full of people who have joined and made such good friends. I mean on here, I know some of the best people I've ever met, without actually meeting them lol, it's ironic. Just goes to show it's good for all kinds of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 I alwasy wanted to be homeschooled, but I would not be as smart, since there are alot of thing my parents don't know taht I could find out in school. SO I',m glad I'm in school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mswanmmiv Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Wow, I've noticed that most of the people who advocate homeschooling are the Christins from the evolution thread! I am a Christian and I am homeschooled also. And I love it! I meet plenty of people, it's called social skills. I learn a lot more than I did when I went to school. And this coming spring, my mom said she will let me start cumputer animation and graphic design as courses and get away with no english, because its the same stuff they taught me since 4th grade! How cool is that!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhiteRaider Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Um yea. What u wanna get ur first kiss in ur 20's? But only geeks say they don't need a girlfriend And this is bad how? Why the rush? Maby us want to get a good job before we get married or some of us might want to be single(Though I don't want to be single.). Maby some of us don't want to work for 5 bucks a hour. And also 85% of girlfriends boyfriend relationships made in school Break up at the end of high school. And if everyone did this I would not be here today. My parents meet at PBS when they were radio enginers not High school. It just means they will be shunned away from the society the should be brought up in (to go to school, decelop social skills). You have no Idea do you? Here is a some facts. Just talking doesn't give you a Social life. Home schoolers have a much better ability to talk with older people as well as their age group. Public schooler tend to have trouble talking with people other than their age group. And also there is more than just talking. Social skill are gained by art and art is not only a activity. You must be able to talk with clearity and meaning. Kids outside of the "Incrowd" Tend to have amotional scars and many problems where going to school every day is a experiance with pain. So public school in not for everyone. And I don't have bullys at home.(Execpt my brother ) ....and those who have mental troubles where they have a hard time with work inside class rooms find home school better. I also have A.D.D. I am not retarded, but I have a hard time thinking in big class and hard times when tons of people are talking at the same time. And some kids work at a slower rate and some at a faster rate. Home schooled kids get a more atention so they can ask any questions they may have. It is true. I don't have to sit there waiting for the blood to go out of my arm to ask a question. Also I don't have to wait for a long time between classes. And I can get done with my work as soon as I want. So please don't bad mouth home school as I am in it and know what it is like and you don't. And I have seen public school before so I have seen both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 I think it all comes down to the parents, a child can learn just as much and just as well in Public, Private, and home school. Many parents of todays society need to take more respocibility for their childern, and not let them be raised by TV, Movies, or thier friends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhiteRaider Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Originally posted by acdcfanbill I think it all comes down to the parents, a child can learn just as much and just as well in Public, Private, and home school. Many parents of todays society need to take more respocibility for their childern, and not let them be raised by TV, Movies, or thier friends... True very true. I am glad that my parents care for me. I think that different children need different ways of being taught the samething. And cut it with the social life everyone!! A Home schooler just told you they have one. I may not have a girlfriend yet, but that doesn't mean I don't see any girls at places. There are more things other than school to have a social life in. And you know what I am 5 mins out of town and I still have one. Youth Group Self Defence class Having friends in your neighbor hood Those are just some. It is not like you only see other people in school. Edit: I made some grammar errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Originally posted by TheWhiteRaider And cut it with the social life everyone!! A Home schooler just told you they have one. I may not have a girlfriend yet, but that doesn't mean I don't see any girls at places. There are more things other than school to have a social life in. And you know what I am 5 mins out of town and I still have one. Youth Group Self Defence class Having friends in your neighbor hood Those are just some. It is not like you only see other people in school. *Claps* everything you have said is true... Im totally and utterly sick of this Stereotype crap about us Homeschoolers having no social life... I just spent the entire day with alot of my freind who go to Publicschool... I *fit in* just fine and have no problem with my social skills, never have... It bothers me that you Publicschoolers are so narrow minded... you swear that ALL Homeschoolers are social outcasts... this is false and is the lamest arguement i hear... and i hear it alot... advice to you people: get a new, better arguement. I Have had a JOB sense the age of 9... working and making money plus doing my school work as i wish... I have worked for the EXTREAMLY rich... The poor, The Average... The Old, Young... I have people tell me all the time that i have unsaly good social skills for a kid of my age... to *socialize* does not meen i must submerge myself with kids my age. Wow, I've noticed that most of the people who advocate homeschooling are the Christins from the evolution thread! I noticed this as well... geeze pretty good for a bunch of unsocialable geeks eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 I don't exactly know what home schooling involves, but if it's only your parents teaching you, then sadly, they can never learn you as much as a good teacher can. A teacher is trained to teach, a parent is training in becoming a good mother or father. If it involves a teacher visiting your house, then it's still only one teacher, who obviously can't focus in, and have the same knowledge of things than a broad pallete of teachers. Maybe it's just the American school system that's so piss poor that it's possible to achieve the same level at home - but I honestly don't think that, which is why I have trouble understanding it. If my parents were to teach me, I'd be dumb as snot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 in homeschool, nobody taught me. and my sister tried to go to public school TWICE, and the second time the teachers just had everyone sit in a group and teach themselves while the teachers just babysat them. could be because she was put in college prep level though...and on top of that, she didn't make any friends there. you do learn more in homeschool. You're able to study without having all the peer pressure. And you're not sitting in a boring class for an entire hour listening to some teacher speak /\/\0/\/070/\/3. I'm glad I was able to experience all the sides of schooling, first i was at public school, ended up going to christian school (where i hated their dress code they first had where i was forced to where a damn tie), and then homeschool. Homeschool was the best for me, but it's not for everybody...especially if you want friends and loads of homework, not to mention stress and being tired all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettingShadow Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Well, the teachers in the shcool Im goin in sucks. They are angry and absolutly no good with kids. They think all kids think the same and are the same. It pisses me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhiteRaider Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Originally posted by cjais I don't exactly know what home schooling involves, but if it's only your parents teaching you, then sadly, they can never learn you as much as a good teacher can. A teacher is trained to teach, a parent is training in becoming a good mother or father. If it involves a teacher visiting your house, then it's still only one teacher, who obviously can't focus in, and have the same knowledge of things than a broad pallete of teachers. Maybe it's just the American school system that's so piss poor that it's possible to achieve the same level at home - but I honestly don't think that, which is why I have trouble understanding it. If my parents were to teach me, I'd be dumb as snot. First my Mother was a teacher for 18 years. as a good teacher can Oh realy then why do home schoolers get better grades? Why do only 1% of Home schoolers drop out of school why 45% from public schools? Also you get books from places I have . It is not only you parents memory. You don't need much to become a teacher in this world only need to be politcaly correct that is it! Teacher don't need to go through any training. They don't need to know alot. Government school in history have failed or brain washed the children that go to it. How do you think Hitler came to power? By tricking the young through government school. And yet it was completely legal. "Give me the world's youth and I could take the world." -Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 omg you're right, about the government thing!!!!! besides, in homeschool you don't get all those cool rights taken away from you. school teachers used to be elected by the parents, did any of you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mswanmmiv Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Originally posted by cjais I don't exactly know what home schooling involves, but if it's only your parents teaching you, then sadly, they can never learn you as much as a good teacher can. A "good teacher" from public school will just indoctrinate you with their theories of evolution and crap like that. Don't challenge me, I've been in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhiteRaider Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 school teachers used to be elected by the parents, did any of you know that? Yes and also they had to go through a course to earn the ability to become a teacher. Not to much anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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