Rogue15 Posted November 13, 2002 Posted November 13, 2002 he could have easily taken yoda out after he used the force to knock over that pillar onto anakin and obiwan!!
Tyrion Posted November 13, 2002 Posted November 13, 2002 No he couldnt. 1. Important role- Since we know Yoda is in the future(story-wise) movies, he cannot be killed in anyway,so he gets a Anagontist-type forcefields. 2. Small size- Yoda's small size makes him harder to hit, giving him an advantage.
leXX Posted November 13, 2002 Posted November 13, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue15 he could have easily taken yoda out after he used the force to knock over that pillar onto anakin and obiwan!! I see what you are saying, I thought that too. Why didn't he attack him while he was saving Obi and Ani? I think Dooku's first priority was escape, that is what was on his agenda from the begining. Getting the death star plans back to Sideous was more important than battling it out with Yoda. He saw his opportunity to escape and used it, and I think he realised that he would not be able to defeat Yoda anyway, so continuing to fight him was pointless.
Jedi_Monk Posted November 13, 2002 Posted November 13, 2002 I think Dooku was afraid that Yoda would've decided to play a little game of baseball, using him as the ball and that cooling tower as the bat
Xyphox Posted November 13, 2002 Posted November 13, 2002 I really hope that you don't seriously think that Dooku could have beaten Yoda, cuz that would just be sad.
ET Warrior Posted November 14, 2002 Posted November 14, 2002 Oh man, i was just thinking when i watch ep 2 the other day it would've been awesome if yoda would've smashed dookus ship with the big ol pillar! Dooku could NOT have taken yoda. Dooku ran because he realized that Yoda was about to go SUPER kung foo on him and rip him into tiny tiny pieces.
Rogue15 Posted November 14, 2002 Author Posted November 14, 2002 dooku didn't kill obiwan although he could have, same with anakin. I think he'll turn out betraying sidious in some way, and getting killed by anakin. something like that. heh
ET Warrior Posted November 14, 2002 Posted November 14, 2002 But dooku was GOING to kill obiwan. He had his saber raised ready to strike the killing blow, it was anakins huge leap that saved obiwans life.
Taos Posted November 14, 2002 Posted November 14, 2002 I think Yoda was ready to finsih Dooku when he says something like "fought well you have Dooku." Yoda was ready to be done with it.......IMO.
Rogue15 Posted November 14, 2002 Author Posted November 14, 2002 i can't believe i forgot about that part when anakin saves obi11!!!! why do i post when i'm not thinking clearly?
Ratmjedi Posted November 14, 2002 Posted November 14, 2002 I don't know. Why do you post? J/K Dooku had to leave before he was going to get his a$$ kicked. I think Dooku was afraid that Yoda would've decided to play a little game of baseball, using him as the ball and that cooling tower as the bat That was funny as hell man.
Ratmjedi Posted November 14, 2002 Posted November 14, 2002 He was like a miniture Darth Maul. He did so many jumps and spins. I wonder what he would be like if he had a Sith Lightsaber.
Breton Posted November 14, 2002 Posted November 14, 2002 Yoda never "owned" Dooku in any way, after my opinion they fought nearly eaqually good, Yoda just was a bit more offensive and quick thats all And starwars.com agrees with me: "The Jedi Master Yoda confronted Dooku. The two engaged in a titanic struggle of Force powers, neither besting the other. It came down to a contest of lightsabers. In a blurring tangle of speed and light, the two masters of the Force dueled. Unable to find an advantage, Dooku distracted Yoda by endangering Kenobi and Skywalker with a toppling crane. As Yoda used the Force to save his fellow Jedi, Dooku fled. "
ET Warrior Posted November 15, 2002 Posted November 15, 2002 I personally feel, like Leemu said, that yoda was getting ready to finish dooku, when he said "fought well you have, my old padawan" He's insinuating that the fight is about to end, becasue yoda's gonna pull out all the stops and cut him to ribbons.
Jedi_Monk Posted November 15, 2002 Posted November 15, 2002 Yoda never "owned" Dooku in any way, after my opinion they fought nearly eaqually good, Yoda just was a bit more offensive and quick thats all And starwars.com agrees with me: "The Jedi Master Yoda confronted Dooku. The two engaged in a titanic struggle of Force powers, neither besting the other. It came down to a contest of lightsabers. In a blurring tangle of speed and light, the two masters of the Force dueled. Unable to find an advantage, Dooku distracted Yoda by endangering Kenobi and Skywalker with a toppling crane. As Yoda used the Force to save his fellow Jedi, Dooku fled. " How does starwars.com back you up? Neither bested eachother in their use of the Force, but when it came down to lightsabers, Dooku couldn't get the advantage, meaning he was getting "owned".
Taos Posted November 15, 2002 Posted November 15, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue15 why do i post when i'm not thinking clearly? Don't get me started 15!!
Breton Posted November 15, 2002 Posted November 15, 2002 Originally posted by Jedi_Monk How does starwars.com back you up? Neither bested eachother in their use of the Force, but when it came down to lightsabers, Dooku couldn't get the advantage, meaning he was getting "owned". Well I guess thats just different ways of reading it. But Yoda did not own Dooku in the battle, both fought really good. You can see that if you watch the battle again
Hannibal Posted November 15, 2002 Posted November 15, 2002 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn Well I guess thats just different ways of reading it. But Yoda did not own Dooku in the battle, both fought really good. You can see that if you watch the battle again Jedi fight defensively so Yoda was easily holding Dooku at bay fighting defensively. Once Yoda decided to end it, it would have been over.
leXX Posted November 15, 2002 Posted November 15, 2002 also, don't forget that Yoda did not use his force powers for offence, only defence. Dooku used the force to through things at Yoda, but instead of throwing them back at Dooku, he just forced them out the way. I know it is not the Jedi way to use the force for offence, but if Yoda had, the battle would of been over very fast indeed.
Kryllith Posted November 15, 2002 Posted November 15, 2002 Objects, yes, but he did throw force lightning back at Dooku... Kryllith
Ratmjedi Posted November 16, 2002 Posted November 16, 2002 Actually Yoda did not throw it back at him. He simply deflected it back like Darth Vader did to Han when Solo started shooting at him at Bespin.
Count Dooku 2 Posted November 16, 2002 Posted November 16, 2002 Yes, and Yoda absorbed the last volley. I wonder if that gave him the strength to fight like that? However, Count Dooku would have beated Yoda if the duel had gone on longer. Yoda has size on his side, granted, but if you watch carefully the better swordsman is actually Dooku. All Yoda does is spin himself around in a tornado, whereas Dooku is using less movement and more skill with the lightsaber. If the duel continued, the Count could have defeated the short little Jedi. Plus he could have caught Yoda off-guard with that Force lightning, then he would have won. If Yoda didn't deflect the lightning away, then it would probably knock him down. Count Dooku has the better weapon, Force powers and lightsaber skill. Of course he would have beaten Yoda if the duel continued.
Pad Posted November 16, 2002 Posted November 16, 2002 i think dooku could have killed yoda when he was busy savin obi-anakin. but i think it was somethin about the honor, u dont kill anybody who is unable to defend himself. still good in dooku, there could be
ET Warrior Posted November 18, 2002 Posted November 18, 2002 If dooku would've tried anything with Yoda after knocking over the cooling tower Yoda would've swung it around and smashed poor dookie flat. OR he would've started flipping around avoiding all of dooku's attacks WHILE suspending the tower in the air. And then yoda would've been mad and would have killed Dooku once and for all. Dooku could not have killed yoda had that fight gone on longer. Dooku fled for precisely that reason. He knew he was going to lose and either get captured or killed. So he created a diversion and ran away.
Count Dooku 2 Posted November 18, 2002 Posted November 18, 2002 Erm... Yoda could not have flipped around the room while suspending the tower above Obi-Wan and Anakin! Look at the expression and listen to Yoda while he uses the Force: it takes effort, and he does not have the strength to jump around the hangar while holding a tower in place. Yoda didn't simply stop the tower, he needed time to focus and bring the structure to a stop. Even when he had, it took more effort to throw the tower away. Leaping, holding the tower in place and concentrating on Count Dooku's attacks would have been impossible, even for Yoda. Count Dooku is Yoda's dark equal. The duel would not have ended for a long while if Dooku didn't need to escape and get to Coruscant. Dooku did not flee because he realised that Yoda would have beaten him. He escaped because his loyalty to his master meant that continuing the duel would have placed the Death Star plans in danger. While I'm here, ET Warrior, I will bring up the Death Star matter: do you still think that the Geonosians won't build the battle station? Well, listening to Poggle the Lesser... "We cannot let the Jedi discover what we are planning to build." This is basically the leader of the Geonosians saying "We are going to build the Death Star", and means that in Episode III the insectiod race will construct the Empire's terror weapon.
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