Nerd_Annhilator Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 what do you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Jedi Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Orcs are the best, definitely. Goblins are smaller and weaker. Their just Orc Lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd_Annhilator Posted January 5, 2003 Author Share Posted January 5, 2003 goblins also have more pus on their faces. (is that pus or just some discusting amount of snot and slobber?) and they seen very stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Err... In lotr they're the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSaber-<ZeN> Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Originally posted by Lunatic Jedi Orcs are the best, definitely. Goblins are smaller and weaker. Their just Orc Lite. NAH ****. Orcs are transformed goblins, just like they are from elves. But Orcs are traditionally from Goblins, sauruman took elves and made them orcs for some odd reason...THAT LOSER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 That is what I was thinking, that the goblin is just a more deformed Orc, which in itself is a deformed Elf..... (At least at the root of it all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 THEY ARE THE SAME THING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSaber-<ZeN> Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 If you say so Mr.Rhett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 they are both ugly but i prefer orcs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Actually orcs were once elves. I dunno about any connection to goblins, I started reading the The Fellowship and am not that far yet. The movie didnt say anything about a connection with orcs and goblins, the book might. But Saruman crossed orcs with goblins and made Uruk Hai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSaber-<ZeN> Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 In lotr their is none, im talking about other fantasies, just basic info their both connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Those were goblin men. Not goblins. Tolkien's explanation inside the story was that the "true" name of the creatures was Orc. He as the, "translator" of the ancient manuscripts, substituted "Goblin" for "Orch" when he translated Bilbo's diary, but for The Red Book he reverted to a form of the ancient word. That's where the confusion comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 The LOTR book is only a small part of Tolkeins work... There is a lot more of the back history, with the Red Book of Westmarch being one that seems to pop up all over the place. It is a book that seems only to exist in the story itself, but is like an annal of history... There are books out there that are like a Middle Earth Dictionary, that explains all the links... In older history, they are referred to as Orcs, now Men in Middle Earth call them Goblins...... Or at least that is what my book states...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd_Annhilator Posted January 5, 2003 Author Share Posted January 5, 2003 no their not!, goblins are smaller and weaker than orcs, and they only help to create orcs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 uruk hai "WE ARE THE FIGHTING URUK HAI. WE DO NOT STOP THE FIGHT FOR NIGHT OR DAY WE COME TO KILL." from TTT the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkum Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 I'm going to agree with Rhett. Tolkien has this book, forgot what its called in which he says that Orcs and Goblins are the smae thing. It's just that the different races of Midle-Earth call them by different names. But Rhett is right, they're the same thing. And 'Orc' sounds cooler than 'Goblin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd_Annhilator Posted January 6, 2003 Author Share Posted January 6, 2003 fine then goblins and uri kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I'd pick Uruk-Hai. Did you see that Uruk decapitate that Orc in TTT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRtY $oUtH™ Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Yes, I did see that..his hunger led him to his death...oh well. "Looks like meats back on the menu!":D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettingShadow Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Goblins in LotR? I´m sorry if I sound stupid but is there any Goblins in LotR? The Orcs are Elves taken by Morgoth, then they were tortured (sp?) and other sick things. I´ve read LOTR, TTT, ROTK and Silmarillion and no where I´ve heard of any Goblins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 If my memory serve me correctly, I believe that in the MOVIE, they refer to the orcs in Moria/Khazad-Dum (Same place, different languange) as Goblins - which game from the mouth of a Elf.... Legolas would be accumstomed to the languages and lores of old, so he may know them as goblins, as they are a very old names for Orcs - which I think actually comes from the Balc speech name for goblins - uruks...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I agree with Rhett, they are the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Originally posted by Squater Goblins in LotR? I´m sorry if I sound stupid but is there any Goblins in LotR? The Orcs are Elves taken by Morgoth, then they were tortured (sp?) and other sick things. I´ve read LOTR, TTT, ROTK and Silmarillion and no where I´ve heard of any Goblins But it seems like you missed reading one book: The Hobbit. In that book, the orcs are always called goblins instead. But they still are they exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemme w/Stick Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I'll go with the goblins. Their in greater numbers and they've got a Cave Troll !! What ever you do....do not feed the trolls!! -Clemme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettingShadow Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn But it seems like you missed reading one book: The Hobbit. In that book, the orcs are always called goblins instead. But they still are they exact same thing. Oh, I read that one to, forgot to say it. But I read that book several years ago, I must have forgotten about that they called Orcs Goblins. Now I gotta read it again (if I can find it that is :/). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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