txa1265 Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 OK, it isn't official, but check this latest preview: http://www.elecplay.com/preview.html?article=11127 Each of these new previews offers one small nugget different from the rest. In this one it is the statement "Han Solo's DL-44 Heavy Blaster, first added to the series in Mysteries of the Sith, is back. So is the Concussion Rifle, which we saw wielded by the Trandoshans way back in Dark Forces." We saw the DL-44 in the trailer, but the concussion rifle is new news. Coolness. More coolness. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky_Baccy Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Ehehehehe... Excellent I have a rather strong feeling that they're correct with that statement... I really hope they are, cos even though I never played JK MP I still liked the beasty in SP Thanks for the heads-up, Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaza Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Goodie goodie! My fav weapon is back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertogJan Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 YEAH!!! GREAT!!! I like the dl44, but the concussion rifle is great too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Great! I hope they go for the way it worked in Dark Forces, rather than how it worked in JK - it was too similar to the other weapons there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Well, if that can be confirmed, it's great news. Thanks for the heads-up, Mike. I didn't play JK in MP either, but I really liked the conc. in SP. Great for clearing a room of unwanted enemy infestations. I hope they make the weapon sound similar to how it did in JK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted May 29, 2003 Author Share Posted May 29, 2003 I wonder what my death animation will look like as I die in a big white explosion with my surround sound system after getting targeted by a Trandoshen with a concussion rifle ... ah, well ... I have a few months to think about it. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Real Jedi use concussion rifles. "My ally is the conc rifle, and a powerful ally it is!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 "This weapon is your life" "A Jedi's strength flows through the Power Cells" Yes the Concussion Rifle is back, thank God now lets hope for the Rail Detonator to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtrooper X Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 I agree with Count D00ku, the concussion rifle is a masterpiece, and yes, lets hope that you can use the rail detonator too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaledDur Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 Originally posted by StormHammer Well, if that can be confirmed, it's great news. Thanks for the heads-up, Mike. I didn't play JK in MP either, but I really liked the conc. in SP. Great for clearing a room of unwanted enemy infestations. I hope they make the weapon sound similar to how it did in JK. Didnt play with it in MP eh? Let me sum it up for you -- Conc+speed+jump+seeing+destruction = flying bodies everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Shaft Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 Sigh... well let's ALSO hope that the conc rifle doesn't return in ALL of it's former glory: i.e. being the Ownage weapon of the series. Being a saberist at heart, but still partial to cool explosive weapons, I still remember what JK multiplayer conc rifles were like. The combination of lag, poor saber hit detection, speed, force destruction, and jump, made the concussion rifle ultimate uber l33t. Even at close range the thing schooled That game was all about the conc, the rail detonator being the close second. But i'm sure everything will turn out for the best. The old Dark Forces conc was cool. Hopefully in Jedi Academy we're not plagued with the nightmare of the uber concussion rifle, but I'm glad it's back, or at least it's strongly suggested that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kengo Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 Originally posted by Doctor Shaft Sigh... well let's ALSO hope that the conc rifle doesn't return in ALL of it's former glory: i.e. being the Ownage weapon of the series. Yeh, balance is the key. Each weapon should have advantages and disadvantages, or at least people who have preferences for different ones, otherwise what would be the point usong any other? I'm more excited bout the DL-44, such a cool gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 Haha, do you remember Canyon Oasis? Whoever made it to the top and got the Conc could just camp there and pick everyone off - wait for it to respawn and repeat I remember many insults flying due to that - and concentrated Rail fire in the direction of the guy with the Conc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 Well, one way to balance the concussion rifle in MP is...simply don't put it in there. Make it an SP only gun, and the problem's solved. Of course, that would then annoy a lot of people. Another way to try and balance it is to reduce damage significantly against someone using Force Protection. Other ways to balance it would be to include a slower movement speed for those carrying heavier weapons, and making the rate of fire of those weapons slower as well. After all, in the real world, the firing rate of a bazooka is a lot slower than the firing rate of a machine gun, but it does far more damage. It would make sense to me for them to introduce this kind of balancing for the more powerful weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaza Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 "Balance is everything" Like Stormy said, the best way to make bigger guns more balanced and still keep them effective is simply achieved by slowing down the fire rate keeping everyone happy... I only hope that Raven knows this too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taekwondo joe Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 Originally posted by Khaza "Balance is everything" Like Stormy said, the best way to make bigger guns more balanced and still keep them effective is simply achieved by slowing down the fire rate keeping everyone happy... I only hope that Raven knows this too i agree as well, i hate lamers in mp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertogJan Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 Guys I just played JK and now I realize I actually HATE THE CONCUSSION RIFLE!! It's boring I like the rail detonator though, I mixxed those two weapons up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 Originally posted by HertogJan Guys I just played JK and now I realize I actually HATE THE CONCUSSION RIFLE!! It's boring I like the rail detonator though, I mixxed those two weapons up Each to their own. Every player has their own favourite weapons. I was never that fond of the Rail Detonator, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtrooper X Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 Originally posted by taekwondo joe i agree as well, i hate lamers in mp No, no, no, they should make it harder to get, so you have to jump really far to get to a platform with it on or something, cause somethings must be better than others. So it would be really hard. Or the server could disable certain weapons. makes it better for everyone. problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Tahu Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 No no no,you forgot something.I dunno if I'm going to offend anyone with this but first of all,no offense. I think we should be able to block the conc with the light saber.After all,why can't we do it,the conc shot is just a bullet of pure beam energy,so is the lightsaber.So why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munik Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Originally posted by Stormtrooper X Or the server could disable certain weapons. makes it better for everyone. problem solved. You can do that now, with JO. I'd just assume they would keep this option with JA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtrooper X Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Originally posted by Toa Tahu No no no,you forgot something.I dunno if I'm going to offend anyone with this but first of all,no offense. I think we should be able to block the conc with the light saber.After all,why can't we do it,the conc shot is just a bullet of pure beam energy,so is the lightsaber.So why not? Wrong, the Concussion Rifle fires bolts of compressed air that make a concussive force that can break bones and shredd muscules. Deadly eh? It'd destroy the saber. And can lightsaber's deflect air at a high pressure? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaledDur Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Originally posted by Toa Tahu No no no,you forgot something.I dunno if I'm going to offend anyone with this but first of all,no offense. I think we should be able to block the conc with the light saber.After all,why can't we do it,the conc shot is just a bullet of pure beam energy,so is the lightsaber.So why not? I thought it was like some sort of super compressed air thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanTB123 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 <edit> From the JK1 </edit> instruction manual: "Concussion Rifle: The weapon of the Tandoshan race fires compressed bullets of ionized air that explode in shockwaves. Primary fires an explosive projectile (8 cells per fire) which is dangerous in close quarters. Secondary fires a shotgun-like projectile (four cells per fire) for safe use at close range AMMO: Power cells" I don't know if that proves anything, but there it is. The Mysteries of the Sith manual says the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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