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Are there human footprints on the moon?  

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  1. 1. Are there human footprints on the moon?

    • Yes. We have all seen the pictures.
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    • No. Those footprints were left on a sound stage.
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    • The moon is covered with human footprints left by a previous fallen civilization.
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    • No, but there are Martian footprints there.
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    • Yes, if you consider bigfoot prints to be human.
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    • Zoom Rabbit's footprints are on the moon.
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    • The moon itself is a hoax.
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StormHammer Newbie

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Personally, I choose to believe men have set foot on the moon. While it might have been some grand and elaborate conspiracy, I consider that highly unlikely. If anything, it's an insult to those who have striven to seek answers in space, and belittles the lives lost in the pursuit of such a noble goal as space exploration.

 

Yes, it is possible to fake some things, and we certainly should not believe everything we may see on TV or in other media. On the other hand, we can be too cynical, and sometimes should invest a little more faith in things we may not fully comprehend. After all, it's our faith in our own abilities that drives us to excel...

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Personally, I choose to believe men have set foot on the moon. While it might have been some grand and elaborate conspiracy, I consider that highly unlikely. If anything, it's an insult to those who have striven to seek answers in space, and belittles the lives lost in the pursuit of such a noble goal as space exploration

 

 

I agree, anyone that says other wise is intitled to their opinion, theres no doubt in my mind, i bealive any one who said we havent been to the moon has either been taking fictional stories too far or has sat waay to long on the computer

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lol I mean while we are saying it's fake people are acting like..."well if it's fake then how did the flag get there"....

 

One thing I find odd that I have not seen anyone say is....is the moon flat or somethin?...you see an image and the moon cuts off like 30 feet away.....looks like a movie set to me...

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Here's a little experiment... It's pretty cold on the moon's surface (for the most part), right? Space is cold, right? That flag looked like it was made of some pretty rugged material, right? Get a heavy flag, and cool it to somewhere in the range of 0 degrees K. Then hold the flag up and see if it sags a whole lot...

 

It wouldn't be quite that cold, which would explain some momentum-induced rippling, and Zoomie's threaded wire theory would be in place as well, but I think I've made my point.

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Nitro Newbie

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Originally posted by RoguePhotonic

One thing I find odd that I have not seen anyone say is....is the moon flat or somethin?...you see an image and the moon cuts off like 30 feet away.....looks like a movie set to me...

 

The moon's a sphere... And a much smaller one than the earth. The curve, and subsequently the horizon, would be MUCH closer than it is on the earth.

 

Being a sailor, I know the earth looks the same way... From a small boat (ie, not a supertanker), you can't see much further than 4 and a half miles ahead of you.

 

SqRt(height above surface in feet / 0.5736) = distance to horizon in miles

 

I'm 5'10, which puts my at about 5.33 feet above my feet. At the highest point on my sailboat where one can safely stand, I might be 6 feet above the water, so add that to the 5.33 feet my eyes are above that, and you get 11.33.

 

11.33 / 0.5736 = 19.75

 

The square root of 19.75 is 4.44.

 

Four and a half miles... Now the moon is about 2200 miles in diameter, giving it a circumference of about 6900 miles. The earth's diameter is about 8000 miles, giving it a circumference of about 25000 miles.

 

Now, if I'm not mistaken, almost all the camera shots were taken from about eye level, so let's do some more quick math.

 

We'll put the camera on earth at, say 6 feet. Using our formula, that puts the horizon at 3.23 miles away.

 

Now, if you divide 25000 by 8000. you'll get 3.125... Meaning that you'll roughly be able to see 3.125 times further on the earth than the moon. At 6 feet, that puts the horizon at about a mile away... Just down the road.

 

Not quite 30 feet, but I'm sure you were using a hyperbole anyway.

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There's also no atmospheric haze or distortion, so no visual sense of distance. Objects on the horizon appear as clear as objects next to you.

On Earth the appearance of objects get fuzzier with distance, even on the clearest day. On humid days this is pronounced and exaggerated quite a bit.

 

There is never a humid day on the moon.

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Originally posted by Nitro

The bottom? A rabbit? Pornography?

Close. The bottom of a rabbit, who's engaged in creating pornography.

 

Or just some dirt.

 

Sorry,.. I just don't like to really think about what's actually down a rabbit hole. Seeing Watership Down really traumatized me as a child.

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Ah, so Bush is actually a cyborg/lizard.. makes more sense now.

 

Seriously though, I honestly can't believe people think that the moon landing was faked... But at the same time I find it kind of interesting to find out how they think...

 

Just a questions to those who think the moon landing was faked... Do you believe that we as humans have the ability to reach the moon if we so choose? Also, has any human even been outside of our planet's atmosphere? Are we capable of sending out probes and satelites into space? If not, where do people get satelite TV, and satelite internet connections? And GPS signals?

 

By the way... I was also traumatized by Watership Down aswell... lol. (Still am :p).

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The fact that Lexx has already done a thread on this controversy means precisely what? :dozey: If I haven't seen it, we can also assume that other forum members haven't as well. Never mind that we're *newbies*...we have valid opinions, too. Besides, unless Lexx is about three shades weirder than I think she is, her topic probably didn't involve the possibility of the moon itself being a hoax...

 

:max: Anyway.

 

My main reason for believing in the authenticity of the moon landings is pretty simple. I've been to Kennedy Space Museum and seen the spacecraft firsthand, fingered the pitted Apollo capsule's heat-blasted hull for myself. Those men went somewhere that involved the heat of re-entry in coming home, which means space. Since just getting into space is ninety percent of the hard part...why not go to the moon?

 

Some say that the Van Allen radiation belt around the Earth would be a problem, and would cook astronauts alive. Well, yes it would unless you suited them up in a shielded capsule and then shot that through the radiation belt at speeds fast enough to escape the Earth's gravity, which would minimize exposure to it. Which is exactly what they did.

 

Here's a question I hear on this subject: 'If we really went, why haven't we gone back?' My answer is that there isn't much there to go for. Next question, please. :D

 

'Do you think the US government is incapable of lying about something like this?' Well, no. I just think they're incapable of pulling it off. :dozey: I have met two people in my lifetime that had been involved with NASA back in the day. They built rockets to go to the moon, and they didn't lie when they told me about it.

 

My final argument is OF COURSE WE DID...because we've had retro-engineered flying saucers since 1947. ;) Heck, we've probably been to Saturn already, but they'll never tell us about it.

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Just a questions to those who think the moon landing was faked... Do you believe that we as humans have the ability to reach the moon if we so choose? Also, has any human even been outside of our planet's atmosphere? Are we capable of sending out probes and satelites into space? If not, where do people get satelite TV, and satelite internet connections? And GPS signals?

 

Well of course we could go to the moon if we wanted to but why would we want to?

 

Some say that the Van Allen radiation belt around the Earth would be a problem, and would cook astronauts alive. Well, yes it would unless you suited them up in a shielded capsule and then shot that through the radiation belt at speeds fast enough to escape the Earth's gravity, which would minimize exposure to it. Which is exactly what they did.

 

No...they didn't lol....it has been said that it would take 6 inches of solid lead to protect them from the radiation...and the thing was a tin can...

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