Redwing Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Zoom: Same here, actually. How weird and coincidental. I'm a winner? Yay. ^_~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 you're a winner? ...nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Rabbit Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 We both are, Pinks. *(Goes and plays Starfighter. Kicks ass.)* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 *shrugs* ... *goes to watch anime* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Originally posted by Lynk Former you're a winner? ...nah Awwww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 u win some, u lose some, it's the luck of the draw munchkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JangoClone#104 Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 all i can say is i was raised with nintendo (still have THE nintendo up at my grandma, and i still play it once in a while) and i'm going to stick with nintendo all the way. that doesn't mean i won't buy the other stuff. i have a ps2 mainly because most of the RPGs are for it, and i still don't have good reasons for an x-box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1DC Posted August 11, 2003 Author Share Posted August 11, 2003 I own an xbox, and a large stack of brilliant games for it. There are tons more out there that i have yet to get that i want, as well. Just to name a few of them: Mechassault (#1 console online multiplayer game) Panzer Dragoon (drop dead gorgeous graphics and framerate, insane gameplay) Brute Force (Sweet multiplayer, addicitive) Halo (well, DUH) Not to mention Fable, Halo 2, Doom III (with an exclusive xbox based engine model that is literaly IMPOSSIBLE to re-create on any other system), Ninja Gaiden, blah blah blah With all the xbox exclusives or xbox-enhanced titles (If any of you saw the port of Splinter Cell to PS2, it looked like complete crap. The lack of dynamic lighting killed the game.), i see it as the freshest new console and the one with the most potential. PS2 is just a bunch of pop-culture clone games to me. And whatever they can't do right they just half-ass from xbox ports. Nintendo at least holds its own in the industry (more or less). They control the market in the age group they target (younger kids, from 8 to 14) and have a few half-decent action games. I own a PS2 and an Xbox, i'll be getting a GC. I don't really like to choose one system as god of all games, but the xbox is winning my attention for now. Until PS2 and GC can come up with some blockbuster titles like Halo 2 or Fable, i'm not too interested. And no, final fanstasy does not count. MGS SE will be on the xbox unless sony forks over huge bucks to square, which i don;t see happening. So in the end, PS2 has a few ok exclusives and TONS of ports and shovelware, GC hides in a corner with Mario and a million other small fuzzy poofy characters, and Xbox trys to rake in the power developers to make high-end games for thier bastard child system. In the end, i see xbox with the most games that i would want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 nintendo isn't just targetting younger groups u nog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Originally posted by Lynk Former nintendo isn't just targetting younger groups u nog Yeh, but most of the games are good anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 S1: Oh stop, anyone who's been around here long enough knows you worshipped X-Box like a god even before X-Box and Gamecube came out XD *recalls the debates around the time of Rogue Leader's release* >:] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr. Cracken Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Despite the fatc that i'm a fairly big PS2 Supporter, i still feel that no console can ever compete with the heavy weight, The Computer. *huggles his box* Granted, not everyone has the knowledge or technical prowess to open thier machine and rip out the guts, and put it back to geather again, but for those of us who do, the PC is a stellar gaming platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjølen Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Originally posted by Nute Gunray You can play most of any systems good games on PC there chief. I can see Resident Evil games on the comp, maybe some others, but I'll eat Lynks socks the day I see Super Smash Brothers Melee on a computer. And Melee is a briliant game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 SSBM is a gimmicky game. It's also the exact reason Nintendo isn't moving on. They need to remember its not the 1980s anymore and that their target market isn't 10 anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1DC Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 Amen. If nintendo was doing so great, then why the hell are they stopping production of a system that has more than 14 million standing units in dusty warehouses? eh? And i just found out today, that xbox users buy twice and many games as PS2 users, 3 times as many as GC users, and subscribe to the official magezine more often than GC or PS2. Not to mention they sell more magezines and demo discs then all of the third-party mags combined! xbox users are this generations "hardcore gamers", PS2 are the "pop-culture" gamers, and GC are the "loyal fanboy" gamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 "Hardcore gamer"? I'd mostly stick that title to PC users. You can't mod a console. Although the word "hardcore" is such a silly term that it nearly gives me seizures every time I hear it. Very interesting stereotypes you've got there. I can't see where they came from though, so maybe you could elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by Redwing "Hardcore Gamer" another term for idiot. hardcore anything reminds me of hip hop kids who listen to linkin park and say they wanna kill themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 hardcore reminds me of whips, chains, handcuffs and leather.... errrrm....wait your talking about games.... Well I don't think that XBOX users are "hardcore" gaming fans. More like microsoft ass kissers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 A few random, mostly pointless and largely unconnected observations: * Red is totally right, S1... you have been a rabid XBox cheerleader since before it came out (not that there's anything wrong with that,.. but please don't try to feign any kind objectivity at this point.) * I'm sure that Microsoft has lost MORE money on the XBox venture than Nintendo has on the Cube, despite it success, or perhaps even because of it. (It's been a well known, established fact that all console systems, past, present, and future are sold WAYYYY under cost, with the hopes of making it up on the other end with game sales and licencing.) The XBox is more technically advanced than the Cube, therefore more expensive in parts and to manufacture. Add in shipping and Microsoft's massive media marketing blitzes, and it becomes apparent that they are in no way making money off console sales alone. But of all the corperations capable of eating the cost of something like this, I'm sure Microsoft can handle it. Sony can probably take it too,.. but Nintendo is a much smaller company than either of these. Has Microsoft sold enough games and licences to cover it's losses? I guess it's possible, but somehow I kinda doubt it. At best they might be just breaking even. Gates is using the Box as a corpoate prestige item. * I know a couple of people with an Xbox who also have computers loaded with thousands of dollars worth of cracked and pirated Microsoft software, from the OS on down. They have an attitude of "F*** Bill Gates! Why should I make him any richer?"... yet have no problem running out and proudly buying dozens of the latest XBox games, knowing full well that a large chunk of the sale of each game disc goes straight back to Microsoft. I just find this amusingly ironic. * Is there some kind of shame attached to not being a "Hardcore Gamer" that I'm unaware of? I didn't know that being just a "Casual Gamer" was such a bad thing. * I like the Cube. It's small, friendly, easy to work,.. and whenever I have the whole extended family over, I can sit all the youngins around it and let them play without worrying that thier parents are going to be totally horrified by what's happening on the screen. How many titles for kids under 10 are there for either of the other systems? A handful, perhaps. The fact that there's a few titles out for it that I happen to like to play is strictly a bonus for me. I don't really need another DVD or MP3 player... I already have PCs and other hardware I can do that from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 yes the only reason why microsoft seemingly has the big titles is because they have more money to throw around to the makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 *me reads thread and dies laughing* they just don't get it, do they... S1 is just stating the facts.... *remembers when S1 was making the decision between getting an xbox and getting a ps2* *hears bomb shells exploding in the distance* o wait, your bro did get the ps2...=] umm...@lynk: yeah, the cube has some target at older audiences, but the older audiences are a minority PS2 and Gamecube have NOTHING on the multiplayer part of XBox. Once you've played Ghost Recon or Mech Assault on xbox live, you'll wish there was a 'broadband only' option for games for PC....xbox does away with most multiplayer lag. And system link is good, but don't the other consoles have that? And also, about all the games support Dolby Digital. And PC will always be better than console, no duh..but if you don't want to dish out about a grand on a decent computer... oh what the hell, none of you will listen to us Prophets of the gaming gods....so you can all burn in gaming hell. *vanishes in flash of light* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr. Cracken Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Unliek Ed pointed out, i dislike microsoft to the point where i want to see it burn into a firey ruin that i started. i'd liek that. in fact, if microsoft burns down, i'll be pretty happy. Why don't i like Microsoft? Because they dictate a market that should be open source and nothing but pure competition, not one dominating the other. Microsoft has way too much power over OS's, in my opinion. Mac? whaa? have you ever seen a serious gamer chose a Mac over a PC for gaming? no. my point. I'd like a choice for my gaming OS other than microsofts stuff, but alas. So, no, i will never purchase that damned X-Box because no matter how good it is, it's just a small computer with no mouse or keyboard. and i have a big computer that's more powerful than that little P.O.S'll ever be. because i have very nice parents and a job. ^_^ And what's so wrong considering yourself a hardcore gamer? and what is a hardcore gamer? I consider a hardcore gamer someone who's been in the know for years. Like Doom. remember Doom? Or Heat and MPlayer for your internet gaming needs? ahhh... those where the DAYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikhnaton Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Crack, try to remember that if it weren't for MS, it's possible that many of the current games that exist now would not. MS, love them or hate them, made the PC available to everyone and really gave the computer biz a shot in the arm. I seriously doubt that we would have 3+ ghz machines, 200+ gig hard drives, 256 mb video cards, etc., if MS didn't constantly push the OS envelope farther. would you rather be on a mac? ewwww hurry up and accept the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr. Cracken Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 yeah, yeah, i'm fightin'. hurry up and kick my butt. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikhnaton Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 i'm there. pay attention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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