BongoBob Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Ok. Someone already posted about their JA review. Now's my turn to post about THUG(Tony Hawks Underground)s review. Ok. First off, they right away start bashing the story mode, talking about how much more could be added, and how it's not that good in the first place. Ok, did anyone really expect a story about a rising skateboarding star be any good at all? No. It just doesn't happen that way. Then they start bashng it on other things, aka the cars. It's a mainly skateboarding game! Did anyone really expect the cars to look good? This isn't friggin Gran Turismo 4 here. They start off on how the character models look good from far away, but not about up close...I will never understand the mentality that a game has to look good to be a good game(check out THPS2, for an example of bad graphics, great game, or Galaxies for the exact opposite). It's all about gameplay. Now, they didn't give it a bad rating(an 8.6, I believe) but look at the user reviews. That's what I look at. AA n average user review rating of 9.3. That's much what it deserves:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topshot Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 I could care less what Gamespot, or any user for that matter, says about any type of game. As long the game is great or interesting (even if there's bad graphics), I'll stick with that said game through thick and thin, just like I do with the Dark Forces series and Tony Hawk 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Fisher Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 I hate GameSpot, you can't even d/l a movie without paying $30.00 to get a membership first! Same thing with looking at pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Everyone's entiltled to their opinion, that is the guy who reviewed it for GameSpots opinoin... It may not reflect what all of the GameSpot team think about it, no need to go overboard now is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Yep, Gamespot sucks. [insert shameless Manipulation plug here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 dont believe ANY game reviews until youve played the game for yourself and come to your OWN conclusion. I cringe at the fact that people base what games they want to buy because a magazine put a certian number of stars next to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Gamespot gave Legacy of Kain: Defiance a 7.2. Dude...thats ****ed up. I'll snap someone's neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-[MotU]-Lyger|=- Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 I happen to like gamespot. While they do dumb things like what was said above they also give helpful idea's on what to buy and what not to buy. Altho they do seem pretty biased about stuff, but they're not to blame. You people are, they're reviewing games, you don't have to listen to them of course. So all in all I think Gamespot is quite alright in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted November 4, 2003 Author Share Posted November 4, 2003 Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 There is a reason there are so many gaming genres and sub-genres and so on. Every gamer is different. I don't lose sleep that Half-Life is supposedly the best FPS ever and isn't in my top 10, or whatever ... I use reviews to get some idea of what the game might be like, and then decide what to do based on what my tastes are. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Originally posted by txa1265 I use reviews to get some idea of what the game might be like, and then decide what to do based on what my tastes are. As long as the reviewer states reasons why he likes or doesn't like a game, I don't care what he thinks. At least then I can decide if the issues they have matter to me. JA lost points with a lot of reviewers because it was so similar to JO. That doesn't matter to me, so if a reviewer thinks that way, I know to not take that part of the review into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troopr-Undr-Fir Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 I don't care about the reviews they give it, i like how they always seem to have alot of info about the said game im looking for. That is why gamespot is one of the best IMO. But i can see where you might be mad. Just opinion, thats all they are. Trust yourself you must hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBell Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Bongo, i wouldn't start basing the review site on account of one review. If i am correct, you just started to like skateboarding. Maybe that effected your high opinion of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Three things: - Reviews are opinions, and we all have them. I don't like RTS, I don't like simulations, or flight games, or dance games, or ... well, much of anything but action/shooters and RPG. You wouldn't want my opinion on Tony Hawk or FIFA 2004 or Secret Weapons over Normandy ... but I think my thoughts on Unreal II, for instance, are relevent. Think about that when reading the review. Which brings me to ... - *Read* the review. (I know you did, I'm just emphasizing) Don't worry much about the numbers, see what is behind them. You may need to go through many to find someone who thinks similarly to you, and then you can trust their opinion more. - Finally, I had to go back and check out NMD-COD (new media darling Call of Duty) review on Telefragged. As I re-read the reviews of Call of Duty compared to Elite Force II and Jedi Academy, it seemed clear that they had 'reviewed backwards' ... in other words, they had a score in mind and scored the individual elements to tilt to that score. The SP and MP seemed fairly done, but the technology, interface, and graphics in particular seemed warped ... another reason for caveat emptor ... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd_Annhilator Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Originally posted by SamFisher I hate GameSpot, you can't even d/l a movie without paying $30.00 to get a membership first! Same thing with looking at pictures. EXACTLY!!! look at me! I'm in grade 8!! I don't have that kind of money. Same goes for IGN.com, they aren't so bad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 er, ok. calm down. I don't get what your problem is. They gave it a good score, but mentioned a few things they didn't like? What do you expect from reviews? That they just tell you all the good stuff and not any of the bad? Sounds to me like you are a TH fan and so won't accept any criticism of a franchise you love. In the same way that a lot of people here won't accept that JO was highly average. 8.anything is a Great score, and frankly i think people give out far too many 9s and 10s. Looking on Gamerankings the gamespot score for all playforms seems to be about average. The PS2 version does seem to be getting the best scores, not sure if that is right, or just cos a couple of PS2 sites gave it 100% and skewed the rankings. oh, and on gamespot the reader scores are LOWER than the review scores. doh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by toms 8.anything is a Great score, and frankly i think people give out far too many 9s and 10s. You and may disagree on JO, which is fine, but we absolutely agree on reviews, reviewers and scores ... you said it very well. I have no problem with any reviewer giving any game the score they feel is appropriate. I just hope that the editor who asssigned them matched player to game well, and looked over the review to make sure that they are assigning scores fairly. Reader scores are a tricky thing ... when you look at GameRankings reader scores, for instance, you see a number of '1's for many games - which seems like a vengeful score more than a game rating. Something like 'I hated Nemesis, so I'll go through every Star Trek game and assign it a 1'. I'm sure there are games that deserve a 1, but I've been lucky that most every game I've ever played deserves at least a 3 for showing up and letting me shoot stuff ... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 heh heh, sorry txa1265 - just trying to wind you up! yup, and in the same way a lot of people go "i love it" and give it a 10. So you tend to get games being scored as either great (10) or terrible (1) without anything in the middle. I just finished reading the Gamespot review and i thought it was fairly balanced. I don't always agree with their reviews, and they do sometimes mark games down for "not being what they wanted" rather than for what they are. However in this case he seemed pretty balanced about the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by toms heh heh, sorry txa1265 - just trying to wind you up! Nah ... I think we're past that ... reading the ... review An underdeveloped talent for too many ... we are a world society happy to assign total value to something by distilling it to a number. The text of the review is what is interesting to me - and apparently to you. There is no such thing as a perfect game, perfect movie or whatever. But by reading what the reviewer thought about the details of a game, you can discover much about whether or not you will like it. Then it doesn't matter whether the GameRankings average is 60% or 95%. But the reading is the key - for example you (toms) recent post on the Q3 engine debate. Within a few paragraphs you put object context and perspective on your thoughts and the basis of those opinions. If it were a score - Q3 engine = 72% ... then what would that have told us ...? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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