RoxStar Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Originally posted by Andy867 After seeing the film a 2nd time, I thought that Bilbo from the back as he is walking towards the ship heading to Valinor, looked like one of those trolls from Harry Potter or whatever they are, from like The Sorceror's Stone especially because of the height and white hair and how it was "styled". Thats Exaclty what I was thinking. Do you think that they had the same makeup artists for both movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wilson Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 ive heard that the shire has been filmed and will be on the EE. The BBC can do somethings . The filmed did indeed rock. The rigwraths, witch king and their fell beasts were far the best parts of the film. I liked the opened a lot to. And the big speech thedon gives. but strangly i never cried in it and niether did anyone near me in the cinima. But most of the crowd did break into appullues also gollum = terminator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Excelsion, In the book it is referred to as The Battle Of Pellanor(sp?) Field, rather than anything to do with Minas Tirith. It seemed to lack a bit from what I expected in the book. Oh, and for the White Tree in Minas Tirith, somehow a sapling grows where the old tree had been. That somehow a seed had fallen, and happend to break through after the defeat of Sauron. Only thing I have to say is WAY too many reviewers wouldn't know the different between a Ringwraith and a Nazgul. Can't beleive how many times I heard these terms being interchanged as if they were the same thing. No Saruman??? Makes the Galadriel's Mirror scene totally worthless in FOTR, since this is what it is meant to represent, his occupation of The Shire. I also agree with the "supposed" ease of crossing the plains of Mordor, even a two or three minute scene where they had to convince other orcs they were "real" orcs would've pleased me. All in all, a great movie, but I hope any things I didn't like about the movie will be resolved in the 20 hour (OK, 4 to 4/12 hrs will do) EE of ROTK!! I think I have a new trilogy to rest along Star Wars as the best ever IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Originally posted by BCanr2d2 Only thing I have to say is WAY too many reviewers wouldn't know the different between a Ringwraith and a Nazgul. Can't beleive how many times I heard these terms being interchanged as if they were the same thing. Arent they the same thing? I thought that the Nazgul were after the Ring, thus getting the common name of "Ringwraith". Of course, I havent read the books yet, so please educate if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 They are the same thing Nazul, Black Riders, Ringwraiths; They are all the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertogJan Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Originally posted by IG-64 They are the same thing Nazul, Black Riders, Ringwraiths; They are all the same thing That's what I though I could be wrong though, I'm reading the Dutch translated version of LotR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 I'm sure there wern't 18 mortal men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 My bad, I thought the Winged Beasts had a proper name, and that was Nazgul.... Stupid me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Originally posted by BCanr2d2 My bad, I thought the Winged Beasts had a proper name, and that was Nazgul.... Stupid me!! If you remember back to Fellowship of the Ring, Frodo asks Strider what those creatures are and he replied: They were once men. Great kings of men. Then Sauron the deceiver gave to them nine rings of power. Blinded by their greed, they took them without questioning, one by one, falling to darkness. Now they are slaves to his will. They are the Nazgul. Ring wraiths. Neither living nor dead. At all times they feel the presence of the Ring. Drawn to the power of the One. They will never stop hunting you. (I kind of took that out of memory so dont get at me if I messed up a phrase or word or got them out of order) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Bit of confusion here, let me help... Ringwraiths are "mortal men doomed to die". When they leave Mordor they "disguise themselves" - in LOTR they disguise themselves as riders in black. Nazgul, literally means "Ringwraith" - "Nazg"=ring, "gul"=wraith. When the two words are placed together, one "g" is dropped. You can figure this out from the "one ring to rule them all" speech, if heard spoken in the black tongue it reads "Ash nazg durbatuluk" etc. The winged creatures the Ringwraiths ride are known as "Fell Beasts". The King Ringwraith, Lord of the Nazgul is known as the "Witch King of Angmar". There are many other names not mentioned in the films, but it is important not to get these all confused, as they mean different things, and some the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie™ Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Originally posted by The_One Bit of confusion here, let me help... Ringwraiths are "mortal men doomed to die". When they leave Mordor they "disguise themselves" - in LOTR they disguise themselves as riders in black. Nazgul, literally means "Ringwraith" - "Nazg"=ring, "gul"=wraith. When the two words are placed together, one "g" is dropped. You can figure this out from the "one ring to rule them all" speech, if heard spoken in the black tongue it reads "Ash nazg durbatuluk" etc. The winged creatures the Ringwraiths ride are known as "Fell Beasts". The King Ringwraith, Lord of the Nazgul is known as the "Witch King of Angmar". There are many other names not mentioned in the films, but it is important not to get these all confused, as they mean different things, and some the same... Listen to the guy If anyone think that's confusing, don't even attempt to read the Silmarillion, as it's packed with these names... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Originally posted by The_One Bit of confusion here, let me help... Ringwraiths are "mortal men doomed to die". When they leave Mordor they "disguise themselves" - in LOTR they disguise themselves as riders in black. Nazgul, literally means "Ringwraith" - "Nazg"=ring, "gul"=wraith. When the two words are placed together, one "g" is dropped. You can figure this out from the "one ring to rule them all" speech, if heard spoken in the black tongue it reads "Ash nazg durbatuluk" etc. The winged creatures the Ringwraiths ride are known as "Fell Beasts". The King Ringwraith, Lord of the Nazgul is known as the "Witch King of Angmar". There are many other names not mentioned in the films, but it is important not to get these all confused, as they mean different things, and some the same... Finally! Thank you. More examples of this are: Barad Dur=The Dark Tower Orthanc=The Tower of Isenguard Strider=Aragorn Mithrandir=Gandalf Anduril=Narsil (Technically. Aduril is Narsil remade) and if you really know nothing about LotR, The Presious=The Ring The Enemy=Sauron The White Wizard=Saruman (or Gandalf in TTT) Knickers=Pants hope that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Originally posted by IG-64 The White Wizard=Saruman (or Gandalf in TTT) Essentially, it is only Gandalf. This is because, in the books, Saruman becomes "Saruman of many colours", dropping the 'colour' of white. Saruman was the highest in the wizard order, and Gandalf the second. Once Saruman abandoned white, and then when Gandalf later reveals his own white to Saruman, he technically becomes head of the order. But, even Tolkien gets his knickers in a twist sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Originally posted by The_One Essentially, it is only Gandalf. This is because, in the books, Saruman becomes "Saruman of many colours", dropping the 'colour' of white. Saruman was the highest in the wizard order, and Gandalf the second. Once Saruman abandoned white, and then when Gandalf later reveals his own white to Saruman, he technically becomes head of the order. But, even Tolkien gets his knickers in a twist sometimes Oh, ok, learn somethin' new everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Originally posted by MMMPIE!!! anyone but me thought that Bilbo looked like a Ugnaught at the end of the movie? Creepy and, no, my ass is still fine, and i never had any smoke breaks I only took one smoke break the second time I went to see it! Now if I can just quit altogether... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 you took a smoke break during RotK? Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Yeah, but just one. And only in a part I knew I'd seen. The first time I went to see it, I took three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Originally posted by CapNColostomy Yeah, but just one. And only in a part I knew I'd seen. The first time I went to see it, I took three. ...That's even worse! Boy, you need to get off smoking, badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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