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Originally posted by B1GC

Why would anyone want to go to the middle east its like a beach without water. I tell you what if I lived there I would be pissed at the world too. Nothing but sand, I actually feel sorry for the people over there.

 

The Muslims faith fights like P*ssies. I mean yall want to win by sneaking around, that bs. I mean who in the right mind will be told to go kill themselves says, "hell yea great idea, I am going to go kill myself" wow. fight like you have a pair

 

Americans are voer there standing in the middle of the road with his M16 waiting for someone to come out and challenge them, but no you go around and crawl up on your hands and knees and blow yourself up. What can get more lame than that?

 

1 other thing, you think that we are becoming afraid of you. But i have more and more friends going into the military just so they can get a chance to kill a couple turban heads

you sir are an ass, and you reek of ignorance. It's not just sand. there are actually many trees in many Middle Eastern countries, I suggest you visit before you make such assanine statements.

 

tFighter, I mean no offense in saying this and I hope we can remain friends, but the country of Israel was found illegally (though done through legal process) Also, I've been to Palestine and I've seen some atrocities commited by the Israeli government, does this mean I hate Israelis as a whole? no.

 

also, America is going to fall like the roman empire, and we're going to fall hard and fast. Not because of gays, but because of our own ignorance and greed. And Bush is only getting us there faster.

 

the american media is far from liberal

CNN is the closest we have to liberal media here, and even then it's still a bit conservative.

 

PS: god can kiss the hairiest part of my ass. If he exists that is ;)

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Originally posted by InsaneSith

tFighter, I mean no offense in saying this and I hope we can remain friends, but the country of Israel was found illegally (though done through legal process) Also, I've been to Palestine and I've seen some atrocities commited by the Israeli government, does this mean I hate Israelis as a whole? no.

As long as it's coming from an American, it's alright by me :p

 

I've seen a lot of atrocities commited by the American government, does it mean I hate Americans as a whole? yes. I mean no!

 

Anyway, how could something be done illegally through a legal process? Enlighten me.

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well it was basically done legally, but they (america and britain [who were dead set on keeping jews out]) forcibly pushed aside palestinis and placed israel there, that's basically like me coming into your house and using a "commitee" and saying that it's now my property. Remember at this time, america and britain had a lot of power and control over many things.... kinda like now, but it was more of their the last ones to get a word in then. Basically it was America and Britain illegally removing palestinis from their homes and land to put Israel there just so they wouldn't have to "put up" with more jews.

 

 

 

PS: at this point in time America was very anti-semetic.

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Originally posted by InsaneSith

well it was basically done legally, but they (america and britain [who were dead set on keeping jews out]) forcibly pushed aside palestinis and placed israel there, that's basically like me coming into your house and using a "commitee" and saying that it's now my property. Remember at this time, america and britain had a lot of power and control over many things.... kinda like now, but it was more of their the last ones to get a word in then. Basically it was America and Britain illegally removing palestinis from their homes and land to put Israel there just so they wouldn't have to "put up" with more jews.

 

 

 

PS: at this point in time America was very anti-semetic.

ummm... Jews already lived there before it was announced. The announcement only made it legal. Also, don't forget that britain has promissed a jewish country in Israel back in 1917
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I mean in general. I'm OK with you. I dont hate you or anything. In fact, I appreciate your witty comebacks and sarcastic responses. And I appreciate your insight on most topics. You're kind of like my brother in that you are sarcastic. and while that is humorous, it gets him in alot of trouble because he doesnt klnow when to shutup. But overall, his comments are funny. Kinda like you.

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Also, don't forget that britain has promissed a jewish country in Israel back in 1917

 

Yes, that was illegal. That's like me promising to give you the eiffel tower.

 

It is World War 1, and Britain and Germany are at war. Germany is essentially defeating Britain, but cannot afford to continue and so is trying to negociate peace with Britain. They want to go back to what it was like before the war. Britain is seriously considering this option, but then the Jews come along. The World Zionist Organisation say to Britain that they can get America to enter the war and defeat Germany, if Britain gives them Palestine.

Britain agrees, even though Britain had no claim to Palestine at all. Britain was giving the WZO land that didn't belong to them. That is illegal.

 

Even so, you cannot deny the current illegal occupation of Palestinian land and the illegal construction work of the wall across the Gaza strip.

 

Israel is in direct violation of more UN conventions than any other Middle-Eastern country.

 

It's not just sand. there are actually many trees in many Middle Eastern countries, I suggest you visit before you make such assanine statements.

 

The only vegetation is near rivers.

 

97% of Libya is made up of the Sahara desert.

 

The deserts are absolutely amazing. Rolling hills of golden sand, flowing across the horizon. All you can see is desert, and it is all moving, blowing into a haze by the wind. And it is absolutely deadly. If you are caught in a sandstorm, you are certain to die.

 

Yes, he is terribly arrogant, but you are equally ignorant.

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Originally posted by Mort-Hog

Yes, that was illegal. That's like me promising to give you the eiffel tower.

 

 

 

Israel is in direct violation of more UN conventions than any other Middle-Eastern country.

 

 

 

The only vegetation is near rivers.

 

97% of Libya is made up of the Sahara desert.

 

The deserts are absolutely amazing. Rolling hills of golden sand, flowing across the horizon. All you can see is desert, and it is all moving, blowing into a haze by the wind. And it is absolutely deadly. If you are caught in a sandstorm, you are certain to die.

 

Yes, he is terribly arrogant, but you are equally ignorant.

I think I know just a TINY BIT more about my country than you are...
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We're discussing the looks of middle-eastern countries and the legality of Israel now? Sounds interesting. Too bad i don't have much to contribute on this topic :(

 

And i'm too lazy too look up some info. But tell us, Tfighter, in wich ways was Mort-hog wrong?

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Originally posted by Doomgiver

We're discussing the looks of middle-eastern countries and the legality of Israel now? Sounds interesting. Too bad i don't have much to contribute on this topic :(

 

And i'm too lazy too look up some info. But tell us, Tfighter, in wich ways was Mort-hog wrong?

Anything I say, he says it was illegal :rolleyes:

 

Britain owned palastine, they could do what ever the f*ck they want with it.

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nothing from earth is owned by anyone. of course everybody can claim it. but does it matter in 1000 years?

 

Originally posted by B1GC

Why would anyone want to go to the middle east its like a beach without water. I tell you what if I lived there I would be pissed at the world too. Nothing but sand, I actually feel sorry for the people over there.

 

get a clue man. only because it's different from your place? man. it's people who say things like that who cause "terrorism" too. it's also one of the most ignorant thing's i've heard in a while.

 

The Muslims faith fights like P*ssies. I mean yall want to win by sneaking around, that bs. I mean who in the right mind will be told to go kill themselves says, "hell yea great idea, I am going to go kill myself" wow. fight like you have a pair

 

Americans are voer there standing in the middle of the road with his M16 waiting for someone to come out and challenge them, but no you go around and crawl up on your hands and knees and blow yourself up. What can get more lame than that?

 

there are different strategies and tactics to win a fight. it surely isnt always a clever choice to stand in the middle of the road at "enemy" territory, and that is surely not what american soldiers are doing. that would be like a "suicide mission". :rolleyes:

 

"blowing yourself up" is not a uncommon strategy and not only used by "muslimemic warriors". and surely there are reasons possible why even you would do it.

 

1 other thing, you think that we are becoming afraid of you. But i have more and more friends going into the military just so they can get a chance to kill a couple turban heads

 

that is what i call nazi. :dozey:

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Yeah, like i said before, it's not cowardly to blow yourself up, especially after getting near enemies with machineguns. And they find it good ideas because in their elief it gets them staright to heaven. That is why they don't fear death.

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Britain never owned Palestine. Britain had no claim to Palestine whatsoever.

 

 

Don't think for a second that just because you live in Israel you immediately have a much greater authority on Israeli history.

Of course your education is going to be biased, there is no way the Sharon government would let education be objective, so Israelis themselves would start questioning Israel and questioning Sharon. You have grown up in the propaganda, the outside observer hasn't.

 

 

Also, Doomgiver, you are simplifying a very complicated topic. There has yet to be a single definitive answer for the motivation of suicide bombers. Not all suicide bombers are religious, you know.

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I am confident that tfighter knows more about Israeli History than you or I. You may know a bit on what you've been told, but depending on what country you're from ,your info might be screwed up. I know more about American history than an Australian, for example.

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