FroZticles Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Since the RTS is set when most of the Republic Jedi are all dead. Some might be alive but if they reveal themselves will be struck down by Vader. What do you think/hope Jedi will play in this new RTS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordAngelus Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Maybe every time the player attacks a planet, there is a random chance of finding a Jedi. When playing as the Rebels, the Jedi could come out of hiding to help. They would be fairly powerful but if the player uses him too much, it might attract the attention of Darth Vader, who would bring massive reinforcements with him. When playing as the Empire, the Jedi wouldn't be visible but if you suspect that a Jedi is causing you trouble, you can summon Darth Vader. However if you do that and there's no Jedi present, he won't be too pleased with you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted January 5, 2005 Author Share Posted January 5, 2005 Why would a Jedi come out of hiding and put themselves at risk? Maybe give them the ability to disguise themselves on the map. But if Vader or Palpatine get close enough he is revealed and a duel breaks out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBop Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Disquise is an interesting idea. After all luke wore trooper armor, Obi-Wan wore Clone armor in the Clone Wars Mini Series. Though once they pull out their lightsaber.. it's given away. It's possible that Jedi will be in the game. As was stated there is a little Episode III crossover. Whos to say that some of the game doesn't occur when the remaining Jedi are being hunted down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Well, probably the same as in Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds. They will act the role of "priests" they can convert units and heal etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted January 6, 2005 Author Share Posted January 6, 2005 For the sake of realism and gameplay I hope not. They did not heal in SWGB. Maybe they give leadership bonuses and give guideance to there army. So a Jedi disguised as a rebel trooper would give his surrounding troops a bonus. They would have increased attack and defences. They could also be a flexible unit becoming anything such as a pilot, troop, or commando. I was thinking perhaps the spy system in RA2 where you clicked on a unit and he turned into it. He could also cross over to the enemy lines and influence the enemies troops to have poor aim and decrease there stats. Of course disguising himself as a stormtrooper. They would have to add a system in where detectability would be a factor a special bar on the Jedi where if it reaches 100% he is detected and the bar would also lower itself over time. If he/she used a Jedi power in front of enemies or used his powers to much and Vader senses it, it gives your enemy to the ability to call Vader to destroy the Jedi. Vader would be on a timer like 2 minutes to kill him and the player with the Jedi would not be warned unless they saw there bar hit 100% or they see Vader/enemy units coming to own your Jedi otherwise it would decrease like normal. (Vader would be able to see the Jedi anywhere on the map). Once the Jedi dies a bonus or resources would be given even if it is not Vader who kills him but he must be detected as a Jedi first before any bonus or credits would be given because otherwise it would just look like another regular unit has fallen. Example: using a power like stealth or force speed would keep driving your detect bar up until you hit 100% but if you stop using it before it maxes out, it will lower in time. A power like push or convert would just take it up to 50% each time you use it if there are enemy witnesses you have a short window to mind trick them before Vader is immediately available. This would also limit power spamming and have players wary that there Jedi is not a super unit because you have to keep watch or your enemy will have Vader in there control. Ranks for your Jedi would also be a factor since it is set where there is no Jedi training or anything a Jedi learns things for himself. I don't know the names of the ranks or if they would just use rank 1-10 or 1-5 or 1-3. The higher rank you are the more chance at once Vader comes to duel you the better chance you have at striking him down. Unless you want to back your Jedi up with a full Rebel strike team but I'm sure they could find ways to make it once Vader approaches the Jedi that only they will be dueling with no outside interference. Naming your Jedi in the game would be kind of cool. Just a nice feature since his name would not be Jedi. They could also use a random system generation. Gender and species would be random also but human would have a better chance at popping up then lets say zabrak. Also what would a Jedi be without his Light Saber. Although pulling this out in front of enemies would not be the wisest thing to do but if Vader is alerted to your presence all is fair and the robe is put on the saber is ignited and yes folks the saber duel commences. I have no idea what would happen if Vader is killed maybe the Jedi unlocks a rank that can only be gained through killing Vader or Palpatine shows up blasts the Jedi to hell. We can speculate on what would happen if Vader is killed..... Just an idea hope you like. If you don't want to read it fine I just went typing crazy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokill Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 thay will hopefully not play a role jedi's are not nice in games like these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I hope there are no Jedi in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishflesh Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 if jedi are in game thay will probly act like hero's whit some unlike abilities , like in BFME... palpy would have lightning and darth vader would have force grip/leadership for exsample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 You'll probably have heroes that are Jedi. As for buildable or recruitable Jedi, I'd rather they didn't exist at all since the context permits it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted January 6, 2005 Author Share Posted January 6, 2005 Jedi would be hard to get since they are extremely rare in this timeframe. I don't want buildable Jedi either but I'm sure they will smuggle Jedi in the game somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Originally posted by FroZticles Jedi would be hard to get since they are extremely rare in this timeframe. That's what they said about Galaxies! And look at what happened to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Well the situation of an RTS is way different. If balanced correctly, you can't spam them. Galaxies is another story. Jedi are uber warriors that everyone wanted to be. Besides, this is a game that's going to be made by former Westwood employees, not the people who rammed EQ and SWG into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted January 7, 2005 Author Share Posted January 7, 2005 Don't even get me started on Galaxies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 lol, SWG... hmmm...well...I definitely agree with you guys. Having Jedi as trainable units was just odd anyway, I'd rather them not play a MAJOR MAJOR role. In fact I'd rather see as few as possible...and those only as hero units. A Darth Vader here, and an Obi-Wan there...etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad Well the situation of an RTS is way different. Of course. But in any event, I just wish they would just leave the Jedi out of OT era games altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 Jedi still exist in the OT but you just don't see them except for Yoda and Obi-Wan. If those 2 can survive with no problems I'm sure others would have as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 It's not impossible and we've all sen how "effective" the empire is at crushing rebellious groups don't we I mean Endor was a shining example of how effective they are at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Originally posted by Prime Of course. But in any event, I just wish they would just leave the Jedi out of OT era games altogether. Exactly. It's FULL with jedi in the clone wars, but no other jedi in OT than Luke, Obi and Yoda on the screen. Though I probably guess each side will have one hero, vader and luke. A special unit with lots of HP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 It is still possible for other Jedi to exist in the OT besides the ones we saw in the films. They said that Vader was the only one in the galaxy left with the knowledge of the force but Yoda had managed to slip under the radar and not get killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordAngelus Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Maybe they can include Jedi characters to be used in the scenario editor (like the various extra characters included with gb) but not the main campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 Well it all depends on who we see die in RotS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Originally posted by FroZticles Well it all depends on who we see die in RotS. Well everyone except the Jedi in the OT. Or the serie will face a massive continuity error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranre Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 I think that it might be too big of hassle to have Jedi in this game. First thing if your the Imps and you find a jedi he better be very powerful or he'd die very quickly. How ever if your the rebels then it might be too big of deal to have the Imps attacking your jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 Take SWGB for example they bought Echuu Shen Jon in the campaigns to help Leia. Imperials will attack your Jedi anyways because he is an enemy unit on the battlefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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