lukeiamyourdad Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Who commanded them doesn't really matter since you will be the one commanding your troops. It is irrelevant. However true that the Clones=Stormtroopers(or maybe clones + recruits), in this case, both sides are made of mindless troops. On the other hand, you have the Rebels who have feelings and are alive and even the Imperials who show a degree of personality. They have officers and stormtroopers who seem capable of free thinking. Nevertheless, the Clone Wars was a greyish war. No one was the good guy, no one was the bad guy. Sure one could say it's the Clones but since they've been tricked by Sidious, we're not so sure. On the other hand, you have the Galactic Civil War, a war where both sides are clearly defined, one is good, one is bad. To take a real life exemple, I'll give you the WWII games and the Vietnam War games. One of them became very popular, one of them hit a big wall of flops. None of the Vietnam war games have been able to get the popularity of similar WWII games, no matter how good they are. The reason? I'll let you figure it out yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by boranchistanger the greatest military genius of all time General Grevious What are you basing that on? And in the end he lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokill Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 thay all lose on some time but ho is then the real leader...? i think its palpatine becouse he killed the jedi council and ruled over all *exapt for the rebel's that have a lot of luck* and the clone emperors will keep his legasy go on living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I think another reason why they chose it is because people will be coming off of RoTS and they'll be like, "I wanna continue the battle!" it makes perfect sense. Not to mention the Galactic Civil War IS the biggest war in the entire Star Wars universe. Just look at it's context. Small groups of freedom fighters joining together to fight a universally massive Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boranchistanger Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 On the other hand, you have the Rebels who have feelings and are alive and even the Imperials who show a degree of personality. They have officers and stormtroopers who seem capable of free thinking. So did the Republic. The clones were very capable of free-thinking, that was why, after all, they were superior to droids. On the other hand, you have the Galactic Civil War, a war where both sides are clearly defined, one is good, one is bad. Clearly defined? I'd argue that the Imperials were the good guys in the Galactic Civil War. At least the Imperials brought a sense of order to the Galaxy, the Rebels just brought chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by boranchistanger So did the Republic. The clones were very capable of free-thinking, that was why, after all, they were superior to droids. The clones had limits on their thinking abilities, they were "programmed" to take orders and not question it. Originally posted by boranchistanger Clearly defined? I'd argue that the Imperials were the good guys in the Galactic Civil War. At least the Imperials brought a sense of order to the Galaxy, the Rebels just brought chaos. The empire was a dictatorship laid down on blood and death. Definitely not the good guys. The Rebels did not just bring chaos. Anyone who thinks the imperials were the good guys is a fool and should be beaten in the crotch severely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by boranchistanger Clearly defined? I'd argue that the Imperials were the good guys in the Galactic Civil War. At least the Imperials brought a sense of order to the Galaxy, the Rebels just brought chaos. that would be defined as good vs evil. palpatine & vader: evil luke & leia: good and to bring more definition: when you rule with an iron fist backed by a massive military, its actually pretty easy to bring order. after the rebel victory at endor, there was still a war to be fought, thus the so-called "chaos" that you mention. don't forget that it was a civil war. if you need a reminder as to the consequences of civil war, by all means refer to the american civil war from 1860-1865. the reconstruction period immidiately after the war was definately one of the more chaotic periods in american history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I'm quite glad it's the galactic civil war. It's far more developed with a WHOLE lot more depth. They have ships set out already classified and everything. They even have descriptive events in the EU books that show space battles, etc in great detail. Also I'm glad because I'm pretty much about to give up on the Prequels. I'll buy the last prequel and have the whole collection...I just may end up crying because it's so unfulfilling. Sry, I'm a biased nut. I like the OT and I've been playing fleet battles through in my head with Star Destroyers and Mon Cals since my early childhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordAngelus Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Me too. When I was playing TIE Fighter, I always wanted to be the one who was planning the missions and coordinating the battle. After 9 years of waiting, I will finally be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raxor Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 i thought it would be good if they also had the new republic and the Vong. but its nice for them to start with the galactic civil war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonepadawan Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Lucasarts will never make a NJO game. Thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Originally posted by lonepadawan Lucasarts will never make a NJO game. What makes you so sure? It is clear that they have no problem with going deep into the EU, and it is obvious they have no issue acknowledging NJO. So its not much of a stretch to suggest they might center a game around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 What makes you so sure they have no issues acknowledging the NJO? Don't bring up the KOTOR argument. KOTOR is a universe they themselves created using what people loved about the movies and turning it into a whole new game. Just the fact that there is a large amount of NJO haters or simply non-lovers( >_> ) or even simplier, people who don't know what the hell that is, can easily justify their reasons NOT to center a game around that particular (horrible)section of EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Let's discuss why or why not LA will or will not make a NJO game in another thread in the off-topic forum. Besides, we've already had this discussion a million times before. Someone will mod EaW and put the Yuuzhan Vong and New Republic in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordAngelus Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Actually, there NJO referrence in KOTOR. Talk to the Mandalore bounty hunter and ask about his stories. Eventually he will tell you about how he saw an asteroid come to life and then fly off into hyperspace. There is more to it than that but I can't remember the details. Anyway, what he saw was a Yuuzhan Vong Coralskipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Yeah, that is what I was referring to, but that is all I'm gonna say about it, so I dont drag the thread off-topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokemaster Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Overlord: He also mentioned it fired molten rock at them. Don't forget, in Mysteries of the Sith, you play as Mara Jade, a character invented in the EU. Anyway, if there's mod support there'll probably be lots of C&C and EU mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordAngelus Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 That was it. Lets also remember that Rebellion used a lot of EU material. Infact I seem to recall an interview where they said they were inspired by the Thrawn Trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Inspired is one thing. They'll still keep it as much like the movies as it is possible. What a lot of people are against is a Star Wars game solely based on the NJO, the New Republic and the Vong. If they do so, they'll have to scrap the core of the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordAngelus Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I think the Jedi Knight series is more likely to get a game in the NJO than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonepadawan Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Oh yeeeeeah. "Learn the ways of the force (Which doesn't effect these new enemies that you know nothing about) and build a lightsaber (Note: No lightsaber duels, instead you can fight against these guys with SNAKES! ISN'T THAT AWSOME!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt-Man Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 OT rocks, however the clones are pretty kick ass, why becuase they are just so cool, but i still prefer the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Luke a NJO game would be a great Idea I have regularly said that you don't need to focus on the movies for it to be succesful KOTOR after all is a success and it uses not a drop of things from the movies. as I have always said Trusim > Purism and that is the way of all things totally and utterly completly irreversible:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Bull. KOTOR uses a lot from the movies. KOTOR has everything the movie has. The NJO has nothing the movies has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I don't see Sith Fighters in Ep's 1 through 6 yet I see TIE Fighters in NJO:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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