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Originally posted by InsaneSith

You had respect for that indoctrinating group? wow.

 

Not everything about them is bad, just mostly their homophobia and certain fundamentalist traits and beliefs (like Harry Potter paranoia, etc.) In other words, everything you know about them :) Shame, I'd say.

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Originally posted by InsaneSith

Getting rid of that stuff on TV won't change the world at all. It'll just mean we'll have more people thinking of actual ways to get ratings than to just throw in sex and violence.

And you don't think that would change anything hmm? The media is the single most powerful shaper of culture in existence. By focusing on the negative acts in the world, the negative acts become perceived as the "norm" or in statistics, the mean.

 

Sticking with that, imagine the behavior of the population being distributed on a histogram. On one end you have the saintly people of the world and on the other end you have the deviants and sociopaths. Most people fall in the middle. The true mean. But if television and other media spend their time focused on the deviant end of the graph, over time the youth of the population gets a skewed vision of what is culturally the norm, behave accordingly, and thereby skew the behavior towards the deviant. What was once shocking (say 3 standard deviations) is now just mildly offensive (1 standard deviaton). So media reaches lower depths. And the cycle continues...

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It's not news per se but it's what the media considers newsworthy that needs to change.

 

And don't get me wrong, I'm not keen on governmental mandates on this sort of thing. Ideally news shouldn't be driven by ratings at all. In television's infancy, news was always considered special in that it was okay if it didn't turn a profit. I think it was the president of CBS who announced in the early 60s, "I have some good news and some bad news: The good news is that our news broadcasts finally turned profit. The bad news is that our news broadcasts finally turned a profit."

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In this country we repealed the law banning the promotion of homosexuality in schools (except in Kent, but the county council there is run by idiots) in fact I believe Britain is holding some sort of themed month (including in its schools) to raise awareness of homosexuality as a proud and important part of our society (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4194247.stm), any politician who made comments like Focus On The Family in this country would be handing in their resignation shortly afterwards. Notice in the above linked article our opposition was able to get away only with a skeleton argument against the plan.

 

There was a brilliant comment today about racism from Darcus Howe relating to a football pundit who was caught out making racist comments (again). Howe said "He's a traditional racist, which means you don't mind black people as long as they know their place" and the same applies to Focus On The Family - theyre traditional bigots, they have it set in their mind what place gay people should have, and its a pretty low one. and they wheel out their poison for anyone who'll listen any time gay people step outside it, and promoting their way of life even in a small way is a big step to these idiots. The truth is gay people are more use to society than they'll ever be

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Originally posted by Rogue15

yeah let's promote censor bypass. now, if i would post somehting like that, everybody would jump in line to anal rape me. :mad:

 

Let's see. You swore in every other post you made. Jed hardly swears at all in his posts.

 

*weighs each on balance*

 

Get the picture?

 

 

I like how that guy calls the group homophobic idiots and "nutters."

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do i bypass the censor to swear? no.

 

I wasn't arguing about the swearing, just the way the censor was bypassed. swearing just comes naturally to me. maybe 5 years ago i wasn't as bad w/my swearing. (ask redwing lol) I dont mean to offend. and i don't do the name calling....

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Originally posted by tk102

And you don't think that would change anything hmm? The media is the single most powerful shaper of culture in existence. By focusing on the negative acts in the world, the negative acts become perceived as the "norm" or in statistics, the mean.

True, but you have to think, "cleaning" up tv requires a standard set of morals, I fear about who will decide these morals. What if we end up going 50 years back with our exposure to the world. We'd have literally none. A lot of Japanese TV has more "questionable" content than most American television, and I have yet to hear how they're having some sort of "moral decay". Just mind what your kids watch. The problem is people are getting lazy. That's where reality television came in, people were too lazy to right a full script so they wrote an outline gave it to crappy level actors and told them to pretend it's all real.

I don't find moderate swearing bad at all, just teach your kids saying these things around other people isn't accepted. Violence has always been around, no use sheltering people thinking it never happens, but they should dilute it some as it seems to be the main theme in a majority of entertainment. Sex, that's a touchy topic because what some find too much sex, others find it as a "meh" level. It's all because people were raised with different "taboos".

 

But mainly I say filter out the reality show crap and bring back some good ole' fashion scripted telly.

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Originally posted by TK-8252

Oh yeah... remember the SpongeBob episode where SpongeBob goes to the high school prom with Mr. Krabs' daughter, Pearl? Yup, Mr. SquarePants goes out with a girl! Ha. Damn homophobes.

 

He went out with a girl with the surname Krabs??? well thats it, Focus On The Family will simply say the show makes inappropriate remarks about STDs, it would make more sense than their arguments so far :D

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If it got that stupid cartoon off the air..cool:D..and i do think he is gay, though i dont think it was producers intentions.

 

Originally posted by jon_hill987

There are two problems with their argument.

 

1: Most of the kids watching spongebob are too young to understand/see any gay reference in the cartoon.

 

 

HAHAHAH...over half the girls in my sophmore class in high school idolize spongbob, ironically, it would have to be some of the hottest ones too..

 

 

life sucks at times..

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