El Sitherino Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 That was so awesome. so awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
•-BLaCKouT-• Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Ve-e-e-e-e-e-ery cool, yes We've had Ep22 in the UK too, looking good! B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Originally posted by InsaneSith .... maybe not by you. But by Lucas, it is. Therefore he's not just an Episode III character, but a character we met in Clone Wars that is being featured in Episode III. ..... no one is talking about the legitimacy of this character, of course not ! ..... watching the clone wars series provides spoilers to ROTS, especially this character. This is why the spoiler warning was added to the thread title. Im reading Labyrinthe of Evil atm, I know all about this character and the lead up to ROTS, however, users here should be able to come here and have clearly identified and tagged spoiler threads or posts. I applaud the current spoiler policy, and ppl like Kurgan for enforcing it.... IG, if you say your silly a$$ "duh, does that mean you're not gonna watch ep3 cox its got spoilers in it" line again then Im gonna tear you a new one mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelScum! Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Wish I had kept up with it when it first came out...But man I did see that time the clone commandos went in there and kick butt...It was awesome...I sooo have to get it on dvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Someone please keep me informed on how and when this poor Canadian can gain access to this brilliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalukai Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 omfg quigon is in this.episode ( or at least that looks like him and little anni in a flashback) I missed it last night >< still no links to it up yet anywhere? Cartoon Network released them online as soon as the next one was aired- the previous one was available for viewing. meh i may have to wait for them to all air straight through again and record them without commercials like i did 1-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Originally posted by Nalukai Cartoon Network released them online as soon as the next one was aired- the previous one was available for viewing. Would you have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 IG, if you say your silly a$$ "duh, does that mean you're not gonna watch ep3 cox its got spoilers in it" line again then Im gonna tear you a new one Ahh, a fine job of making my look a 6-year-old once again. But let me explain my statement: I do not mean it in a literal sense, but simpy hinting on the rediculousness of being all hush-hush about things everyone should already know about; and comparing it to the redicuousness of refusing to watch Revenge of the Sith in fear of learning "spoilers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 no one is talking about the legitimacy of this character, of course not ! ..... watching the clone wars series provides spoilers to ROTS, especially this character. This is why the spoiler warning was added to the thread title. None of what happens in the Clone Wars cartoons is in ROTS though, it gives us background to show where we're at in ROTS. And General Grievous isn't just an Episode III character shown in Clone Wars. We met him before, and we're to know of him before we see Episode III. But whatever. I just don't see how General Grievous can be classified an Episode III spoiler. Originally posted by Nalukai omfg quigon is in this.episode ( or at least that looks like him and little anni in a flashback) Yup, and his lines are very remeniscent of some we've heard somewhere before. *has a copy of the episode on him computer where he got those screens from* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Originally posted by IG-64 Ahh, a fine job of making my look a 6-year-old once again. But let me explain my statement: I do not mean it in a literal sense, but simpy hinting on the rediculousness of being all hush-hush about things everyone should already know about; and comparing it to the redicuousness of refusing to watch Revenge of the Sith in fear of learning "spoilers". heh IG. I know what you're saying, but unless theyre in the "SW - EP 3 - SPOILERS ALLOWED" forum, ppl should have the right to browse and post with well marked spoiler threads and tagged post, as we are all doing atm. Its all about rights sista ! back in TPM and AOTC days I happenned to be at TFN quite alot. Even today their spoiler poilcy is a bit lax, back then it was non existent... I am sorry I went there, as I knew 80% of AOTC dialogue etc by the time it was released mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 But Clone Wars has no ROTS spoilers, it tells you nothing about what is going to happen in Episode 3. This all takes place before. Perhaps you shouldn't watch the OT, or you might know Anakin will turn to the dark side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Yep, looks like the site I was viewing was in error. Thanks for the correction. Even more reason to be careful! Originally posted by InsaneSith But Clone Wars has no ROTS spoilers, it tells you nothing about what is going to happen in Episode 3. This all takes place before. Perhaps you shouldn't watch the OT, or you might know Anakin will turn to the dark side. I beg to differ. The entire opening crawl of ROTS, for one thing, will be revealed. Characters, events, locations, and themes. How much more spoilerific can you get? Saying that this is all stuff we "must see" before seeing the movie is ridiculous. Should we also read the novelisation of the film before the movie? After all, it describes more details, fills in gaps, and sets the mood, tone, and undercurrent for the movie as well. Likewise the prequel era novels taking place before it should also be read. The ROTS inspired video games also cover events leading up to the movie, and fill in details that will help better explain and enhance the movie. Reading spoiler reports will help us to be prepared and thinking about important themes, and watching for various developments before they happen (like reading an outline or cliff's notes before reading a work of literature for a class). Logically, we should all consume as many spoilers as possible before Episode III in order to get the fullest, most in-depth experience of the work. There, I just made the strongest case I can for gorging oneself on ROTS spoilers before the movie. However, it's equally logical to argue that by coming into the film with as little information as possible can be very desirable. Being surprised is a good thing. Not having expectations artificially boosted (or biased) by derivative works or other "hype" is a good thing. This allows the viewer to make up one's own mind, and judge the work on its own, rather than on its connection to some video game, cartoon or book. We can judge for ourselves rather than be constantly scrutinizing, second guessing, and judging based on some spy writer's opinion and gushing (or angry) pre-view of said film. The Episode III Spoiler policy set on our forums was done with good reason. Even if you agree with the "pro spoiler indulgence" argument, you can see I think that for the benefit of those who fall into the second category, which is sizable we should require the Spoiler Revealers to use tact and safeguard their posts so that only those who wish to be "spoiled" will read them. Let's put things another way... what if back in 1980, I came up to you, before you could see ESB and told you that Darth Vader is Luke's father, and that this is 100% fact, not a rumor? Would that be fair of me to do? So it's really a common courtesy, not an imposition. Bottom line: We're not changing the Episode III Spoiler Policy now just for Clone Wars Season 3. This was mentioned before, and nobody balked. So just go with it. You can still discuss it without fear, just use the spoiler tags and appropriate warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 "We're sorry, episodes are only available to viewers in North America" awww snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Originally posted by Kurgan I beg to differ. The entire opening crawl of ROTS, for one thing, will be revealed. Characters, events, locations, and themes. And that has nothing to do with what happens IN the movie, it's all before stuff so we know where we're at, and understand what some banter alludes to. Originally posted by Kurgan Saying that this is all stuff we "must see" before seeing the movie is ridiculous. Should we also read the novelisation of the film before the movie? After all, it describes more details, fills in gaps, and sets the mood, tone, and undercurrent for the movie as well. Wrong, the novelisation is the book of the movie, this is not. This is the stuff that happens before the movie giving us detail into what we've only been alluded to. Originally posted by Kurgan Likewise the prequel era novels taking place before it should also be read. No. The Clone Wars cartoon is much like it's own movie, an episode II.V. Originally posted by Kurgan he ROTS inspired video games also cover events leading up to the movie, and fill in details that will help better explain and enhance the movie. The RoTS game is what happens in the movie, the Clone Wars is not. The Clone Wars is it's own little movie that details what we've only heard about. Much like the prequels are details to what we only heard about in the OT. So maybe the Prequels are spoilers to the OT, let's not discuss them then. Originally posted by Kurgan Reading spoiler reports will help us to be prepared and thinking about important themes, and watching for various developments before they happen (like reading an outline or cliff's notes before reading a work of literature for a class). Logically, we should all consume as many spoilers as possible before Episode III in order to get the fullest, most in-depth experience of the work. There, I just made the strongest case I can for gorging oneself on ROTS spoilers before the movie. You're being ridiculous. Originally posted by Kurgan However, it's equally logical to argue that by coming into the film with as little information as possible can be very desirable. Being surprised is a good thing. Not having expectations artificially boosted (or biased) by derivative works or other "hype" is a good thing. And Clone Wars removes none of the surprise. I could also argue knowing Anakin is indeed Vader could ruin such excitement. But we all saw the OT before the Prequels, as was intended. Much like Clone wars before RoTS. Originally posted by Kurgan This allows the viewer to make up one's own mind, and judge the work on its own, rather than on its connection to some video game, cartoon or book. We can judge for ourselves rather than be constantly scrutinizing, second guessing, and judging based on some spy writer's opinion and gushing (or angry) pre-view of said film. ... You're bringing up the books and the game, that's not at discussion. The books are not detailing anything we should know before entering episode 3. The game is based around the movie, hence it's name. Clone Wars is about what happens before the movie giving us insight into what is being discussed in little banter. Originally posted by Kurgan Let's put things another way... what if back in 1980, I came up to you, before you could see ESB and told you that Darth Vader is Luke's father, and that this is 100% fact, not a rumor? Would that be fair of me to do? No, but that's not what the Clone Wars cartoon is doing. I agree with your spoiler rules, and I enforce them. But I think classifying Clone Wars as a spoiler is ridiculous. It tells nothing of the movie. Originally posted by Kurgan So it's really a common courtesy, not an imposition. Agreed. Originally posted by Kurgan Bottom line: We're not changing the Episode III Spoiler Policy now just for Clone Wars Season 3. This was mentioned before, and nobody balked. It wasn't an issue until the new Clone Wars came about. When we were reading over it, the Clone Wars to our knowledge was already over with and we were anticipating Episode 3. And I have no intention of getting it changed, I just wish to understand. Originally posted by Kurgan So just go with it. You can still discuss it without fear, just use the spoiler tags and appropriate warnings. I just don't understand how you can see the use of a character that is featured (but was first mentioned and showed in Clone Wars) in episode 3 as a spoiler. There was even time we were asking if Grievous would be in episode 3, it wasn't until a while after we even saw him that we learned he would be. All I'm saying is that Lucas himself has said that he intends for people to see the Clone Wars cartoons before Episode 3 so they have a greater idea about how we got to where we're at in the movie. And that it's like it's own movie, a side-story in the Skywalker saga that gives us a better idea of what they talk about, why the clone wars were such a big thing, all of that. I mean no disrespect, and have no intention of sounding like I'm fighting, I just don't understand this whole mess of how Clone Wars is an episode 3 spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 This is the last post I'll make in this thread since it's now in spoiler territory... Claiming that Clone Wars Season 3 doesn't contain ROTS Spoilers IS ridiculous, it's been established that it has. The Spoiler Policy we set will not be set aside for the sake of the animated show. Of course Lucas will say you should watch the show before the movie. That's why he released it before. He also wants you to buy the games and toys, read the novels, comics, etc. That's why it's all being sold. He makes $$$ for these products. Of course he'll say you should consume them! Why wouldn't he? He's appealing to the demand for movie info and fueling the hype machine from which he directly profits. That's Lucas's genius, he gets more money from the sales of the merchandise than from the Star Wars movie itself (at least that's how it's worked in the past). However, many fans feel this over-saturation raises false expectations, AND ruins the surprise for them. That's why we even bother with spoilers in the first place. It's out of respect for these folks that we (and other sites) make these rules. Since many other sites are pretty lax in their policies, we've made our's stricter so fans can have a place to go to discuss stuff that's a little "safer" until May 20th. Now that we've discussed this in PM, InsaneSith, I hope we understand each other, but I was posting this just so nobody else gets the wrong idea or gets upset. We didn't just make this up to be annoying, the spoiler policy has explicitly mentioned the Clone Wars Season 3 and has been posted in 8 seperate forums (all the SW forums aside from the Spoilers Allowed one) for 3 months now, it also attempts to explain the rationale behind the policy. So please, use discretion. Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightsaberboy Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 ahhh i missed the first ep on monday, so i was like "no biggie, i'll catch it on cartoonnetwork.com the next day. so i go to the site and click to watch the ep and they say "sorry, episodes are only available for North American viewers only." WTF! I live in the united states!!! taht's part of north america!!! EDIT: after a couple times refreshing it, i was finally able to see it. good stuff. look forward to todays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Originally posted by Alegis "We're sorry, episodes are only available to viewers in North America" awww snap. Apparently Canada is no longer in North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedirsh Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Originally posted by IG-64 Even though Astro laughed at me last time, I still stand by my statement: Are people not going to watch Episoode 3 because of the spoilers? Couldn't agree more. I had to look up and see if I was still in the spoiler fourm from all the *****in about spoilers. My recomendation is if your so paranoid about spoilers is get out of the spoiler fourm better yet why dont you just stay away from the fourms all together thats what my uncle does and it seems to work. While your at it turn off your tv because you might see part of the trailer, Stop reading the newspaper too because they had an article on SW in there afew days ago. Oh one more thing too Stay way the hell away from Wal~mart because they are having a release thing on april 2ed oh and they have toys out too in random places....come to think of it you might not want to go to target or any store eather for that reasion. Idea because the whole US is freaking out about SW I think it would be best if you guys just stayed inside your house tell may because god forbid you see a pic of yoda or somthing. Wow that was a rant. Sorry I'm just sick of people bitching about things like this. As far as the cartoon goes. How is it a spoiler if its an official release? Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoast2895 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 anybody else finally happy to see obi-wan and anakin not fighting or disagreeing for once. I know anakin is going to turn dark and all and is annoyed with obi-wan, but man it seems all they do is fight. in the original trilogy it seems obi-wan really missed anakin as a friend, so for once we finally get to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Originally posted by eastcoast2895 anybody else finally happy to see obi-wan and anakin not fighting or disagreeing for once. I know anakin is going to turn dark and all and is annoyed with obi-wan, but man it seems all they do is fight. in the original trilogy it seems obi-wan really missed anakin as a friend, so for once we finally get to see it. This is also reflected in the Labyrinth of Evil novel. They come across much more like brothers (as it says in the show). Brothers fight and often don't get along, but they can still be best friends. A couple things I found interesting were that Grevious didn't attempt to deflect and blaster shots from the troopers. Perhaps he is unable? And I laughed when Windu said that politicions had no influence on the Jedi Council. Unless, of course, in the NJO when they stick them on the damn council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Originally posted by Prime A couple things I found interesting were that Grevious didn't attempt to deflect and blaster shots from the troopers. Perhaps he is unable? Jedi are able to deflect blaster shots because they see them coming before they actually do. just as Qui-Gon said in Ep I "He can see things before they happen. That's why he appears to have such quick reflexes. It is a Jedi trait" Grevious has fast reflexes, but he can't use the force to see things before they happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Originally posted by Kurgan ...We didn't just make this up to be annoying, the spoiler policy has explicitly mentioned the Clone Wars Season 3 and has been posted in 8 seperate forums (all the SW forums aside from the Spoilers Allowed one) for 3 months now, it also attempts to explain the rationale behind the policy. So please, use discretion. Thanks guys! Excellent. *applauds* Thats what the policy is all about Sithy, this is the only way to be fair to all... spoilerised people get to chat about it to their hearts content in the relevant areas, and people who would prefer not to know can safely access areas like the swamp(wuth its many diverse topics) without worrying about seeing this type of stuff... I dont see how that can be so confusing to you Sithy. I thought you of all people would understand the concept of providing equal access... mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I'm not arguing spoiler rules. I don't understand how people can see Clone Wars as an episode 3 spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa_0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 If you missed the 1st two chapters and wanna see 23 before it airs, all three videos are on http://www.pcgamemods.com in the JA section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micks75au Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Alternately get it through bit torrent..... all that clones goodness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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