Great Jedi Knight Posted April 8, 2005 Posted April 8, 2005 I am happy with game. I not angry with Incompletion, that some things had been cut, no matter like droid factory. I guess not enough room for any of CDs or any why cut off but I am happy with seeing Ebon Hawk at light side ending moive flew away to safely, maybe find Revan! Don't be angry with them. Prime is right, petitions never work so quiting complaining about it. Also some bug problem. Can you give me list of bugs what you found? Anyway, I hope to see KOTOR 3 in future, if not then, oh well.
The Hidden One Posted April 8, 2005 Posted April 8, 2005 I agree it's a good game and derserves the rating.
Lettuce Posted April 8, 2005 Posted April 8, 2005 Argghh use spoiler tags when posting story info, it kinda ruins the game for people. And I disagree with your rating, KOTOR certainly did not desevre a 9 out of 10, maybe an 8. The fact that people can be sastisfied with a game that was rushed is very troubling. This is exactly the kind of behavior that publishers expect. And why we can expect this kind of thing to continue especially as the industry becomes bigger and attracts other investors.
Dragonball Fan Posted April 8, 2005 Posted April 8, 2005 Some people like the game for the content, not the story.
Derc Posted April 8, 2005 Posted April 8, 2005 Of course, it would have been a 10 in my book if the ending didn't feel rushed. But still a damn good game in every respect.
90SK Posted April 9, 2005 Posted April 9, 2005 I liked the game in every respect, including the story. It was more like living a good book than playing a good game. The ending was distressing, but I didn't mind it so much (assuming it leads into a sequal).
Emperor Devon Posted April 9, 2005 Posted April 9, 2005 I agree. Great story, great characters... Great everything.
Darth Aleera Posted April 9, 2005 Posted April 9, 2005 I do not intend to flame the board, but I do not think that is a simple matter of numbers... without bugs, it would have deserved a 10/10. But that is not what happened. I know that in business questions only money matters, but I also know that if I have to pay a full price, I expect to have a full (and finished) game. First of all... Kotor I used to freeze on loading: this problem is present also in Kotor II. Second point: some areas have been removed: sublevel in Telos military base, droid's planet, some areas in Nar Shaddaa port that you see in the map, but in which is impossible to enter, Obsidian did not erased completely these areas, simply, left areas that you can't reach and door that cannot be opened. Quest do not disappear from the log when are complete, some quest as Citadel Station's fuel has been considered "completed" when in fact you know is not. Final part of the game is practically full of plot holes: when you arrive at Telos, Onderon's army, Dantooine's mercenaries and Mandalorians are in Citadel Station. In which way they're here, and BEFORE your arrival? And in Malachor V, why you are alone, why and when Bao-Dur died, and what no sense is Remote and Go-To scene? There is no explanation at all of what happened, and if there is, is absolutely not given in the game! Some people said that some cuts happened also in Kotor I, but in the first chapter I never recognized when and where was made a single cut, because, I simply think, that was done in a real better way, and there are no plot holes at all. Yes, I know that petition are useless, I've signed it anyway, but, paraphrasing petition lines, the difference from what Kotor II is and Kotor II should have been, is the difference between a good game and an excellent game.
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 ^^^^I agree with you. Except for the bugs part. Still, I also felt all of the cut content in KOTORII. The only thing that felt a little bit cut is the command centre in the Bek Base.
Bob Lion54 Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad ^^^^I agree with you. Except for the bugs part. Still, I also felt all of the cut content in KOTORII. The only thing that felt a little bit cut is the command centre in the Bek Base. What was with the Bek base? I always felt there was more to do there. Anyway, I also agree, more or less. I would rate the game 8/10. Lossing one point for being incomplete and one point for bugs. If the patch fixes most of the bugs, then 9/10.
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 Originally posted by Lion54 What was with the Bek base? I always felt there was more to do there. Playing on the Dark Side, you could join the Vulkar and have access to the rest of the Bek base, with the sole exception of the command center
Jeff Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 i would give the game a 10 if the content was put back in, but i would probablyl give it a 7.5-8 because i enjoyed it very much up until the ending. And i would probably give it a 10 if i wouldn't have known that LA had cut out so much
Bob Lion54 Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 Oh, I see. Thanks lukeiamyourdad. I always sided Bek, so I didn't relize that.
StoneDragon Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 Eh, I'll give it a 8/10 neway. Can you imagine encountering almost 10+ crashes in one day?
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 Originally posted by StoneDragon Can you imagine encountering almost 10+ crashes in one day? It happened to me in KOTOR 1. Never in TSL.
Jeff Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 TSL locked up on me whenever I hadn't saved for a long time. What a coincidence...
FiEND_138 Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad It happened to me in KOTOR 1. Never in TSL. Same here. K1 gave me far more problems than TSL has. The incompletion, no big deal. Especially with that group of modders trying to piece everything together. If they weren't, still no big deal. Story still makes sence to me, anyway...
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 Originally posted by DarthMoeller TSL locked up on me whenever I hadn't saved for a long time. What a coincidence... I don't understand the logic being this. Why would someone NOT think about saving for a very long time?
Jeff Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 I'm not very good at saving a lot, i tend to forget, so when i don't save for a long time because i forget, or because its at a place when i know i can't die, it seems to lock up then.
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 F4 is your friend. Unless you're playing the X Box version. Then
Emperor Devon Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 Originally posted by FiEND_138 Same here. K1 gave me far more problems than TSL has. TSL seems to have more bugs....
Lettuce Posted April 11, 2005 Posted April 11, 2005 Originally posted by FiEND_138 The incompletion, no big deal. Especially with that group of modders trying to piece everything together. If they weren't, still no big deal. Story still makes sence to me, anyway... Thats exactly what I'm talking about why should it be up to the consumer to fix something that should have been done in the first place. Its like a paying a mechanic to work on your car and he ends up telling you he didnt have enough time to fix all the problems with your car so you should finish up cuz he's got better things to do.
The Distorted Posted April 13, 2005 Posted April 13, 2005 Originally posted by Greatstar Don't be angry with them. Prime is right, petitions never work so quiting complaining about it. Yeah, I'm sold
Aleggy Posted April 13, 2005 Posted April 13, 2005 having an incompleted game is annoying andi would have waited an extra few months for a finished and well polished gamesurely they had game testers letting them know about the bugs before it was released i payed full price for the game the moment it came out and i expected a full game now with kotor 1 i didnt get any problems but that was mainly because i only heard about it around november/ocober 04 so i bought it and downloaded all the updates and then played it so i was lucky there so i hope this patch comes out soon i had a similar problem with max payne 2 i bought it on it relese date and it crashed when loading level 7 i think and i went to the home page and found it was conflicting with my win98 ( i now hve xp) but i was able to download a patch there and then to fix the problem no such luck with tsl hope we dont have the same problems with kotor 3 but we probably will oh well lets hope they finish this patch soon however i will still give tsl 8/10 and kotor 9/10 i dont believe in 10/10 scores as certain types of games arent for everybody so no game is going to be 100% perfect for everyone to enjoy although i think kotor came close so maybe it deserves a 9.7/10 lol i found that in tsl there weren't enough feats and powers for the amount of level ups you could do
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