Darth Macca Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 In Episode II when Obi-Wan has been captured and is locked inside a ray shield, Count Dooku explains to him that Darth Sidious is in control of the Separadists and the Republic. He says "Join me and we can end the Sith...". Is Dooku being genuine? Does he actually want to kill Sidious and the remiaining Sith? Or is it just a decoy of some sort to kill Obi-Wan? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 In Episode II when Obi-Wan has been captured and is locked inside a ray shield, Count Dooku explains to him that Darth Sidious is in control of the Separadists and the Republic. He says "Join me and we can end the Sith...". Is Dooku being genuine? Does he actually want to kill Sidious and the remiaining Sith? Or is it just a decoy of some sort to kill Obi-Wan? Thoughts? I think that Dooku wanted to take Palpatine's place as Dark Lord of the Sith. He was going to use Obi-Wan to help him kill him, then Dooku would kill Obi-Wan. It was the same with Vader. Vader tried to get Luke to join him and overthrow Palpatine, then probably take over the Galaxy for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Macca Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 I think that Dooku wanted to take Palpatine's place as Dark Lord of the Sith. He was going to use Obi-Wan to help him kill him, then Dooku would kill Obi-Wan. It was the same with Vader. Vader tried to get Luke to join him and overthrow Palpatine, then probably take over the Galaxy for himself. Who'd want an apprentice, eh? Because at the end of the day...they always plan to kill you...same old, same old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Who'd want an apprentice, eh? Because at the end of the day...they always plan to kill you...same old, same old! That's what I'm basically saying. Dooku would use Obi-Wan, then kill him and Vader would probably kill Luke if they ever helped them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Macca Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 That's what I'm basically saying. Dooku would use Obi-Wan, then kill him and Vader would probably kill Luke if they ever helped them. I understand what you're saying and it is most probably true. I was just saying why would you want a Sith apprentice because in the end they always plan to kill you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 thats the way of the sith... the sith always want power... they want to rule..... but they also want their ways to continue.... play Knights of the old republic to really understand it. the apprentice always want the place of the master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Macca Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 thats the way of the sith... the sith always want power... they want to rule..... but they also want their ways to continue.... play Knights of the old republic to really understand it. the apprentice always want the place of the master. I have completed both KotoR's...It was a sarcastic/rhetorical question! It's obvious that the Sith always want more power...as you say, "thats the way of the sith". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 That's what I'm basically saying. Dooku would use Obi-Wan, then kill him Or corrupt him and have him become his apprentice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 In Episode II when Obi-Wan has been captured and is locked inside a ray shield, Count Dooku explains to him that Darth Sidious is in control of the Separadists and the Republic. He says "Join me and we can end the Sith...". Is Dooku being genuine? Does he actually want to kill Sidious and the remiaining Sith? Or is it just a decoy of some sort to kill Obi-Wan? Thoughts? Sith apprentices always want to kill their masters and take power. I think their masters would be disappointed if they didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Macca Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 Sith apprentices always want to kill their masters and take power. I think their masters would be disappointed if they didn't True, True. I hear Darth Maul tried to kill Sidious during his training...because of this, Sidious claimed that Maul had completed his training therefore he declared Maul as his apprentice. Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleOfHarpenden Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 i dont think maul would even be able to scratch sidious hes more of an assain where as sidious relys on the force powers more, Dooku owuld have just cintinued the way of the sith (2 so kill his master) because Obi-Wan had acess to him it would be easier, and dooku can stop lightnin so he would have some chance against sidious but he did train Qui-Gon so i think he just wanted to see how strong his apprentices apprentice was in a way because Qui-Gon was one of the greatest jedi(Trained himself to have life after death!) so maybe thats y Dooku wanted him to learn how 2 stay alive forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_1990 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Yep i think Count Dooku was aswell, either wise he would have not of suggested what he did. And also all the dark lords want power POWER MAD!, espcalley Darth Sidious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Well, Doku and Obi ruling the galaxy "father n Son" ... at least thats what Doku would hope. I truly believe Doku really would like to rid the galaxy of the evil sith Sidious. Thats the sith way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killwithhonor Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 i dont think maul would even be able to scratch sidious hes more of an assain where as sidious relys on the force powers more, Dooku owuld have just cintinued the way of the sith (2 so kill his master) because Obi-Wan had acess to him it would be easier, and dooku can stop lightnin so he would have some chance against sidious but he did train Qui-Gon so i think he just wanted to see how strong his apprentices apprentice was in a way because Qui-Gon was one of the greatest jedi(Trained himself to have life after death!) so maybe thats y Dooku wanted him to learn how 2 stay alive forever. i never understood that, in the end of the third movie it said something about Obi-Wan being able to meet his old friend then Obi says "Qui Gon" then it cuts the scene, so could someone enlighten me on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick5770 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 That is yoda telling Obi-Wan that Qui-Gon found a way to preserve himself forever in the force. Yoda then teaches Obi-Wan how to communicate with his old Master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06protoguy Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Every Sith usually wants to destroy his master. Darth Vader wanted to and eventually did but he always needed the emperor. After the death of Padme the only thing keeping Vader from killing the emperor was his hope to bring her back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Somehow I think Vader's Meditation chamber is filled with pictures and plushies of Padme. :3 It is also interested to note that the "sith lord" thingy is but a title, there are many darkside followers beneath them as we know it. But yeah sith no not sith, any darksider who follows the way of the sith would exercise it by climbing up the food chain, retiring those above them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoesGuy Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Is it just me, or would it be much better if the galaxy were run by Dooku/Vader as opposed to Palpatine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=DEATH STAR= Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 dooku wanted to overthrow sidious so he could be emperor (wich never happened) he wnated obi wan's help because two are better that one (i dont know if someone else posted this but i dont read every post in the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch0g0nda Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Dooku couldn't do anything like that, it's not in his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoesGuy Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 um...ok. You know, talking down to people like that is not a nice way of going about things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Hmmm... Actully I do think that Dooku would be relatively "kinder" than palpy in certain things. Yes he might actually make a better emperor. Then again it is also easier replacing him with one of the darksiders, as his grip of the Empire might not be as tight and far. Remember his bulk of troops would be Droids, and we know how they fare in battle. Sure they are easily replaced, but still maintinance is more than some lazy sandtroopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jimmy Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I vote Dooku for Emperor! While I wouldn't want either, I think I'd rather have 'The Count' as my ruler... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I Personally don't think the Sith is into the whole Democracy thing of "voting" their Sith Lords... What's next? "The Naboo Gates"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExileRevan Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Dooku saw himself as the ruler of an empire, or just his ideals forced as a dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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