0DarthRevan0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Its not like we will ever know for sure but in everyones opinion who do you think would win if Revan and the Exile fought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 It might be pretty close, though I'd probably have to say Revan. While the Exile is "empty of the Force", that's only really a benefit for her with Sith, like Nihilus, who feed on the Force or drain it somehow. Revan, however, always seemed like he'd be more of a "kick your butt with a saber" kind of guy, and being an ex-Sith Lord has got to have its benefits in that area . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I have no doubt that Revan would win that duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Lightning Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Revan would wipe the floor with the Exile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I have a feeling this thread will get quite a bit of attention.. so I added a poll (better now than someone asking for one later.. hehehe)... oh yeah, Revan would annihilate the Exile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast-Thrasher Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Kreia does say at the end of K2 that the Exile is the greatest she has ever trained, and Kreia trained Revan before. Revan is THE(supposidly) Strongest Jedi both in strength and through the Force. Overall I would vote for Revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy Allen`` Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Revan was set to pwn Bastila and the other Jedi before Malek betrayed him, and to me Revan was better with a lightsaber, but Exile truely ruled with force powers, to the point she could wander the academy on Malechor and force wave all the Sith and Dark Jedi into oblivion. Revan never seemed to have that much power over the force, but I'm pretty sure it's something that wouldn't work on him, so it would fall down to saber combat and I'd say Revan would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arátoeldar Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 The Exile a hair over Revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0DarthRevan0 Posted July 21, 2006 Author Share Posted July 21, 2006 Revan was deffinetly better with a saber so i would have to say Revan hands down.The exile may be better with the force but like someone already said Revan would be able to counter it somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjpb3 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 It would be a good fight, to be sure! But I KNOW MY Revan and I KNOW MY Exile, and Revan would stomp Exile's a$$ all the way back to Peragus. Not that Exile wouldn't give it all she's got, but Revan would so own Exile in that fight! My Revan is a tough as nails lightsaber using street fighter, while my Exile is more of a force user. While Exile is doing her force "mumbo jumbo", Revan would slice and dice Exile like slicing through butter. It would be the absolute best fight I would ever see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Votes Exile just for my growing hatred of Revan & the fan club... + Kreia's statement about the exile being the greatest she'd ever trained & my exile finishing roughly 15 Lvls higher. Also keep in mind with both my games 98% of the time they were Consulars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Man Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Exile all the way. Revan only got up to level 20. Exile can be level 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone L68362 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Nah, I think Revan would beat the Exile only after having his butt kicked around pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Revan... hands down. The Exile's "wound in the force" status would hamper him/her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Nova Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Exile. Why? The Exile takes on much more powerful Sith Lords than Revan did. The Exile also learned several techniques that Revan doesn't have. That includes several saber forms, several force techniques such as force breath, force sight and all that jazz. I also think the Exile's "wound in the force" deal gives much more potential than Revan. Hell who knows what wierd things the Exile could do with the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 The Exile also learned several techniques that Revan doesn't have.That's up for speculation. Revan may have known many more techniques before the council wiped his memory, and if/when his memory returned he may have relearned those techniques. Plus while the Exile may have defeated Sith Lord, Revan was a Sith Lord, so he has all the knowledge of the Jedi and the Sith at his disposal (if he remember it, of course). Neither of the two characters are portrayed completely in either of the two games. You can't really hold the shortcomings of one game (you can't say Revan didn't know saber techniques, because KotOR1 didn't even have support for that) against one of the characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jimmy Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Revan out of favouritism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 The Exile takes on much more powerful Sith Lords than Revan did. The Exile also learned several techniques that Revan doesn't have. That includes several saber forms, several force techniques such as force breath, force sight and all that jazz. You are confusing game features for character abilities, Revan would have a Prestiege Class and could very much possess powers far greater than ones the Exile had. Including those saber forms, as they are gained during normal Jedi Class progression, Revan would have access to them as well. If KotOR I went to level 50 and had Prestiege Classes like TSL did we would have likely discovered some of them. Revan with a full memory restoration would likely be a formidable opponent. I also think the Exile's "wound in the force" deal gives much more potential than Revan. Hell who knows what wierd things the Exile could do with the Force. I'm just the opposite, Revan was far more capable in the Force that The Exile was, it was stated in the game. The Exile's special ability was the bonds the Exile made with his/her fellows so easily. In a one-on-one fight this special ability is useless. Due to the Exile's "wound in the force" status, while immune to life-drain attacks, I don't see it protecting the Exile from other Force abilities. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Nova Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 True. We don't know the exact details on each character, just like we can't say because the Exile goes up to lvl 50 while Revan only gets lvl 20 makes it a give away. Though for basis if this arguement I was using what each game gives each character. In KotOR 1 Revan only recieved Jedi training at Dantoonie, that's as far as that goes. The Exile actually gathers unique skills and abilities along his/her quest. Still though, story wise I'm convinced by this whole "would in the Force" deal that the Exile has immense potential. Kreia saw him/her to be the death of the Force. That makes one wonder just what potential in power does the Exile have. Revan on the other hand was an ordinary force user who gained power like any other Jedi potentially could. He/she studied under many masters before the wars, he gained power through strategy and manipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Revan by a hair, but both of them are terrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 True. We don't know the exact details on each character, just like we can't say because the Exile goes up to lvl 50 while Revan only gets lvl 20 makes it a give away. Though for basis if this arguement I'm just using what each game gives each character. In KotOR 1 Revan only recieved Jedi training at Dantoonie, that's as far as that goes. The Exile actually gathers unique skills and abilities along his/her quest. Once again you are confusing game features for character capability, this makes your argument weak. Revan has all the same 'gifts' of level progression just as the Exile would, and all the same class choices. That is how RPG's like these games work. Edit: If we consider the progression under the same systems that TSL 'introduced' then here is a rough character breakdown... normal playthroughs plus the 5 years Revan has in a head start on the Exile. Revan: Level 8 Non-Jedi class, level 12 Jedi class, level 10-14 Prestiege class*... (Level 30-34) The Exile: Level 15 Jedi class, level 11-14 Prestiege class... (Level 26-29) * Revan's Prestiege Class would be gained at the end of KotOR I, remember what Kreia said when you gained your prestiege class in TSL... so Revan would be considered a Jedi Prestiege Class in the LS ending, and a Sith Prestiege Class in the DS ending, add to that five or so years of adventuring for the 10-14 levels in that Prestiege class. The Non-Jedi classes might also give Revan an edge in a duel with The Exile as well. But either way it would be up to the roll of the dice in who would win in this duel, as their levels are close enough to be a pretty good and balanced fight. Still though, story wise I'm convinced by this whole "would in the Force" deal that the Exile has immense potential. Kreia saw him/her to be the death of the Force. That makes one wonder just what potential in power does the Exile have. The power to kill Darth Nihilus, nothing more. Revan on the other hand was an ordinary force user who gained power like any other Jedi potentially could. On the contrary, the Exile was labelled as a mediocre Jedi with a special gift for influencing comrades/force bonds, whilst Revan was touted as a gifted student and powerful Jedi Knight in both games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jimmy Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 okay now my choice is starting to be out of fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Nova Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Once again you are confusing game features for character capability, this makes your argument weak. Revan has all the same 'gifts' of level progression just as the Exile would, and all the same class choices. That is how RPG's like these games work. Yes I'm aware of this. I simply wanted to state that I was using the character features as one of my original points in comparing the Exile with Revan, gamewise. I wasn't trying to restate the same arguement, I was agreeing with your logic and explaining my reasons for using that arguement. The power to kill Darth Nihilus, nothing more. I have to disagree. The Exile's true power (imho) is untapped. Kreia saw the Exile as the death of the Force. For all intents and purposes the Exile could kill every single Sith, Jedi and any other force sensitive out there. Exactly how is unknown however, which is where I'm led to believe that the Exile has immense potential in his/her power. On the contrary, the Exile was labelled as a mediocre Jedi with a special gift for influencing comrades/force bonds, whilst Revan was touted as a gifted student and powerful Jedi Knight in both games. That's not saying much in terms of each Jedi being unique. Revan learned from various Jedi Masters. He/she became popular amongst his peers and was labeled "special" by his/her masters. But any Jedi could have been as enthusiastic and admired as Revan was. Just like any of us could have been that popular celebrity, or become a famous politic if we put our minds to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Yes I'm aware of this. I simply wanted to state that I was using the character features as one of my original points in comparing the Exile with Revan, gamewise. I wasn't trying to restate the same arguement, I was agreeing with your logic and explaining my reasons for using that arguement. Ok! I have to disagree. The Exile's true power (imho) is untapped. Kreia saw the Exile as the death of the Force. For all intents and purposes the Exile could kill every single Sith, Jedi and any other force sensitive out there. Exactly how is unknown however, which is where I'm led to believe that the Exile has immense potential in his/her power. See this is the problem, you are inferring too much to the whole "wound in the force" title, Kreia was quite disillusioned and in all actuality being Darth Nihilus' 'hunger' was spawned at Malachor, as was the Exile's 'gift', I saw the Exile as simply being altered by the Force itself at the same time to be able to restore balance and destroy Nihilus. Not what Kreia had imagined the Exile to be, but the Exile was the only one who could stop Darth Nihilus, I took this as the force maintaining balance through the Exile, and enforcing its 'will', Kreia was too blinded by her hatred of the Force to see this, and saw only what she desperately wanted in the Exile, and not what the Force had in mind. In a way Kreia's hatred of the Force served the forces will, as likely was intended. The Exile's purpose as a "wound in the force" was the death of Nihilus, and the destruction of the other current Sith. The Exile's story as a 'wound' is basically over at that point, who knows if the Exile's 'wound' status remained after the duel with Kreia. That's not saying much in terms of each Jedi being unique. Revan learned from various Jedi Masters. He became popular amongst his peers and was labeled "special" by his/her masters. But any Jedi could have been as enthusiastic and admired as Revan was. Well we are talking about The Exile and Revan... The Exile was not considered 'special' Revan was, simple as that. Kreia even states such. Revan was quite gifted in using the force. The Exile was not. Hence your statement about Revan being "an ordinary force user" was quite incorrect. That's all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Nova Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 See this is the problem, you are inferring too much to the whole "wound in the force" title, Kreia was quite disillusioned and in all actuality being Darth Nihilus' 'hunger' was spawned at Malachor, as was the Exile's 'gift', I saw the Exile as simply being altered by the Force itself at the same time to be able to restore balance and destroy Nihilus. Not what Kreia had imagined the Exile to be, but the Exile was the only one who could stop Darth Nihilus, I took this as the force maintaining balance through the Exile, and enforcing its 'will', Kreia was too blinded by her hatred of the Force to see this, and saw only what she desperately wanted in the Exile, and not what the Force had in mind. In a way Kreia's hatred of the Force served the forces will, as likely was intended. The Exile's purpose as a "wound in the force" was the death of Nihilus, and the destruction of the other current Sith. The Exile's story as a 'wound' is basically over at that point, who knows if the Exile's 'wound' status remained after the duel with Kreia. That's more of speculation however. There's nothing that points towards the Exiles 'purpose' was to destroy Nihilus. Nor is there anything that points at the Exile's 'wound' being 'healed' of sorts after defeating Kreia. Another thing you mentioned earlier was the Exile's uncanny ability to unwillingly create force bonds. That same ability was magnified once the Exile began reconnecting with the Force. Which overall the Exile had become much more powerful with the Force as a whole than he/she was before Malachor V. Well we are talking about The Exile and Revan... The Exile was not considered 'special' Revan was, simple as that. Kreia even states such. Revan was quite gifted in using the force. The Exile was not. Hence your statement about Revan being "an ordinary force user" was quite incorrect. That's all I'm saying. True. I simply thought you were praising Revan's power for the fact that he/she was more "popular" with everyone else. Revan may have had much more potential than his/her peers, but I think because he/she was slightly more gifted than the others doesn't make Revan better. I believe because of that, Revan's power was limited. Revan had already begun to max out his/her potential early on. In time Jedi like Malak would have challenged Revan's power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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