igyman Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I don't know how much into this are you, fellow forumites, or how informed of this European music competition are the people from America, but since I'm feeling pretty darn proud at this moment I thought we might all give a big Woot to the winner of this competition, a singer from Serbia (hence the pride I'm kinda feeling), a woman called Marija Serifovic! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 lolz Eurovision sucked this year, not one entry should be proud of themselves (except Finland), I think they're all an embarrassment to their country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 I dunno, I got the feeling that every country brought out the heavy artillery this year, but hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Heavy artillery? Were you watching the same show? It was mostly the same pathetic attempts you get every year, with an odd exception here and there which doesn't get any votes...(IE Finland and France this year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 By heavy artillery I mean pretty good live performance with very little to no off-key singing (well, there were exceptions tonight, but still...). By your posts I see that Finland was your biggest favorite and I do agree that their song was pretty good and definitely deserved more votes, but I also think Macedonia deserved more votes and so did Georgia. I can't understand though, how that Ukrainian guy got so many votes (no offense to the people of Ukraine, I just really didn't like that song). I also have to say that I didn't really expect my country to win, but now that it has I can't not feel a little proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 A lot of the voting is pointless though, you'll find that neighbouring countries almost always back each other up (like Ireland and the UK, who both had rubbish songs...), unless one song absolutely sticks out (like last year it was almost unanimous) But I though this year was poopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Yeah, I agree that there were a lot of votes that can be considered political, but then again there are enough objective votes out there to secure a different winner each year. On the other hand there's another explanation (but probably less likely) for the neighbouring countries support of each other - they speak the same or similar language, they have a similar taste in music, etc. What I honestly fear is that we'll embarrass ourselves next year when it's our turn to organize and host the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I don't really watch eurovision anymore. It's so politically inclined it's untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 To me, it seemed like all the ex-Soviet countries voted for each other. I thought Serbia's song sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Eurovision delayed Doctor Who. It should die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Eurovision is music ? Um, sure mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Eurovision delayed Doctor Who. It should die. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Eurovision delayed Doctor Who. It should die. Exactly. No wonder we did so poorly. It's just bad karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I think it'd save many soldiers lives if we just withdraw from Iraq and send Scooch instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabish Bini Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I didn't watchEurovision this year, but last year was awesome, all because of Finland's song, it was just so awesome. Does anyone know how Croatia went? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledFish Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I stopped watching after Serbia got over 200 points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted May 13, 2007 Author Share Posted May 13, 2007 Wow. I never expected people around here to be into Eurovision (hell, even I'm not that into it), but to come back a few hours later and step into a puddle of vomit was certainly far from my expectations of this thread. This was supposed to be no different than all those ''Happy Birthday'' or ''Congrats for this and that'' threads and it turned into a ''spit all over it'' thread. I am very disappointed at the level of... well, respect all of you have for me, since you obviously didn't care if you'd insult me by insulting my country's song. I agree that some people don't like the song and that's fine, but have you heard me say ''that song sucked, it was crap''? If I didn't like something, I said ''I didn't like it'' not ''it sucked''. There's a subtle difference in meaning and that's what I resent. Yeah, I know that Eurovision is influenced by politics a lot today, but tell me that you wouldn't feel even a little proud if it was your country that won, regardless of the various influences that may exist. That's all this thread was supposed to be about, sharing my small amount of joy that my country won. Thanks for ruining it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledFish Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I am very disappointed at the level of... well, respect all of you have for me ... I said nothing about the song so why say all of us. Dude seriously. Everyone has there own opinion on things and if people think the song sucked its not a judgement on your or your country just the song I never got to here it so ill never no but seriously you need to cool down and chill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted May 13, 2007 Author Share Posted May 13, 2007 Like I said, this was supposed to be no different than all those ''Happy Birthday'' and ''Congratulations'' threads. This was not supposed to be a serious discussion about the credibility of the competition. If I wanted to start that, I would have started a thread in Kavar's Corner. Again, like I said, of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but it's the way they expressed it that bothered me. What's wrong with saying ''I didn't like that song, but still congratulations''? Why do some people have to say ''it sucks'' without even a courteous ''congratulations''? Imagine if someone starts a ''Congratulations for the job promotion Member X'' thread and then people come and post how this person's job sucks, or how the promotion is nothing special and offer no congrats. It would make that person feel pretty miserable. I remember a thread on the Football cup winner, back when France won and when Zidane did his headbutt in the final game - everyone was obsessed with that event and with how it sucked that France won the cup. There was no ''Congratulations to France'' posts, or there were very few of them. All I wanted from this thread was some courteous congratulations posts and I got none. It did made me regret of ever starting this thread, but it also made me see that an interesting topic about the credibility of Eurovision could be started in Kavar's Corner. Hmmmm... @ExiledFish: I never spoke to you personally, but to people here in general, after seeing the general mood here. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Edit: I have started a serious discussion about the credibility of Eurovision in Kavar's Corner. Here's the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 ..... respect all of you have for me, since you obviously didn't care if you'd insult me by insulting my country's song. ..... oh please, it was a freakin pop song/ballad...not the serbian national anthem. If you are insulted by people saying the song/the contest sucks, then I'd venture to say you are being far too sensitive. Turkiye(Turkey) won the EVSC in 2003. You didnt see me monkeying around here about it - think about who comes to these forums, and then wonder why you got the response you did..... The Eurovision is rubbish(IMO!) 90% of entries are pop/ballad/dance songs that are sometimes so westernised they are in English The cultural diversity that is so beautiful, is severely diluted, and in many cases lost. Now, the European Football Championsips..... theres a supremely better thing to watch involving European participants !! Go Turkiye in 2008 !! btw - your location is no longer undisclosed is it !! mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalMark Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 It was really bad this year. Iceland was nice and Czech Republic was really good but beyond that they we're all pretty horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Igyman, it's Eurovision what did you expect seriously? It's the same rubbish every year (with an odd exception here and there, namely Lordi), none of the countries' entries are any good...ever. It doesn't matter what country you're from dude... I'm from Belgium, they always suck, I know that, they won back in the 80's once and everyone is still so hyped about it, wtf? Same for Britain, where I am now, the entry this year absolutely blew, did you see me cry about it? I would still have said it sucked even if they had won... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted May 13, 2007 Author Share Posted May 13, 2007 If you are insulted by people saying the song/the contest sucks, then I'd venture to say you are being far too sensitive. I'm a little more sensitive because this (regardless of my personal opinion of the whole contest, or yours) was interpreted here as a major success and I wanted to celebrate that success, even if it was on Eurovision. I agree with what you said about the cultural diversity, that is truly the case with many countries. btw - your location is no longer undisclosed is it !! Heh, heh, it never was. It was a plot within a plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I never saw Eurovision as that much of a big thing. The UK purposely sends appalling bands into it for some as of yet unexplained reason which is why 99% of the country does not take it seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Congrats to Serbia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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