Sabretooth Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Even though I feel really sorry for the PiiEsThrii, I'm willing to say that I like the Wii much better. Easy question: PS3 is better, because the crap Wii doesn't even play DVD's. However, the 360 is what interests me at the moment. Plus, the Wii has the lowest memory of the three new consoles, which I am implying that is pretty s***. PS3 Sales: 3.6 Million+ Wii Sales: 8.2 Million+ A majority of 4.6 Million cannot be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Easy question: PS3 is better, because the crap Wii doesn't even play DVD's. However, the 360 is what interests me at the moment. Plus, the Wii has the lowest memory of the three new consoles, which I am implying that is pretty s***. Yeah, cause we all buy videogame consoles so we can watch DVD movies Besides, if a game is made right... I don't think it matters what kind of hardware improvements you've made to your system... Like so: http://gonintendo.com/?p=20640 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Easy question: PS3 is better, because the crap Wii doesn't even play DVD's.That could probably be fixed with a firmware update by Nintendo. Or a modchip. Plus, the Wii has the lowest memory of the three new consoles, which I am implying that is pretty s***.Are you implying that if I buy a PS3, I'll be able to use ultra high res textures in my favorite ****ty PS3 games?! MADNESS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Easy question: PS3 is better, because the crap Wii doesn't even play DVD's. However, the 360 is what interests me at the moment. Plus, the Wii has the lowest memory of the three new consoles, which I am implying that is pretty s***. You are hatin' the Wii because it doesn't have a DVD player? Nowadays, everybody has a DVD player. Why add something that isn't a "necessity" to consoles? Concerning memory, unless you intend to get a lot of games from your VC and a lot of games. I don't think you need to worry. I'll wait for Lynk to clarify that since he seems to have a plentiful amount of both. Personally, I think I have too much memory for my Xbox 360 with a 120GB HDD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Nah I don't need to say anything, if he doesn't like Wii, he doesn't like Wii. Even if he is spouting very strange reasons, it sounds like he's already made up his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPhil2501 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I'm just saying the PS3 and the 360 has more extra features than the Wii. And the Wii carries 88 MiB main memory, which I am led to believe is barely good than the other two new consoles. However, one thing I like about the Wii is its remote. You can imagine when a new Star Wars game unleashes for the Wii console, you'll have the opportunity of what it feels like to wield a Lightsaber. Regardless, I'm more keen on the 360 (though based on the Poll, PS3 is more better.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 To be honest... you don't need that much memory in the first place. And amen to RE:4. Even if it is the GC version + Ps2 extras. That game scares the hell out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 lolz...silly thread You're playing with fire !! I'd like both - but if I had to choose which one first, it'd be the PS3..... blu ray, final fantasy XIII, Force Unleashed and the ability to stream pc based media(which the wii can do too) is great. Theres some clever coders working on linux based apps to allow HDTV tuner support directly to the ps3, now that would be nice too, and would make the ps3 a big hit with the PVR/Media center crowd. yeah, and due to mass effect, Id like a 360 too anyone wanna plan a bank heist?? mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Avery Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 anyone wanna plan a bank heist?? I'm with you on that. If I could have all 3 I'd go for them instantly, but I had to choose out of the 3 so I went ahead with the 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I'm just saying the PS3 and the 360 has more extra features than the Wii. And the Wii carries 88 MiB main memory, which I am led to believe is barely good than the other two new consoles. It's more than just that, the Wii isn't that much more powerful than the GameCube, in fact it's only about twice as much, some developers in the know say maybe a little less than that. In relation the PS3 and Xbox360 are light years ahead of Wii in terms of raw power. Wii can't compare when it comes to the power the PS3 and Xbox360 can generate, but as we all should know by now, that's not what Wii is trying to do at all. But who cares who weak Wii is, I want the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Smaug Posted July 3, 2007 Author Share Posted July 3, 2007 @ Darth Smaug: If you're interested in both the PS3 and Wii, I suggest you get the Wii now since it's the cheaper of the two. It has a few good games worth buying, and a lot of good games to buy if you like variety. Now for the PS3, you'll have to step back and ask yourself what kind of games you like more, cause it may turn out that the Xbox360 has more of the kind of games you like. Either way, if you really want it, you'll get it despite what we say lol. Just make sure you have the money to spend in the first place. I got a Wii, i never wanted Playstation systems though i have a Playstation 1. N64 was waaaaay better than Playstation with Zelda and the other stuff. And i'm not forgetting Nintendo was first with almost everything besides Next-Gen graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPhil2501 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 My apoligies. When I meant "Barely Good", I meant "Hardly Good as the 360 and PS3". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_man Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Twilight Princess. That is a great game. I just bought my Wii to play that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkle Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I was psyched for Wii till I got Twilight Princess for GCN. I have to say it's an absolutely stellar goddamned game that really demonstrates the GCN's capabilities (as did MP2 and, to an admittedly lesser extent, the original Metroid Prime). I don't think that system got nearly the respect it deserved...a fate that Wii is pretty likely destined to share. When I *do* get a Wii, TP will likely still be the first game I buy, but until Metroid Prime 3 drops, I'll be patient with my DS addiction. =) (and yes, i'm excited as hell to use the Wiimote with many of TP's...tools) @Lynk, you're right...all PS3 needs is some really fantastic games. However...it's going to take a long time for developers to really be able to take advantage of high-powered the system is. The fact of the matter is this (based on anecdotal and reported evidence, mind you): Wii is incredibly easy to program for, and the PS3 has a bitch of a learning curve. This puts Wii at a distinct advantage; in the time it takes for PS3 to reach a "reasonable" library of great [sic] titles that will be more in sync with its price, Wii's catalog will hit critical mass. In all likelihood, this span of time will also coincide with a price drop on both systems...which will again be a distinct advantage in Wii's favor since it's already at a previous-gen price now. I don't see this working out in anything but Nintendo's favor. I like the Nintendo business model: make a fun system with fun games that are easy to play and hardware that's easy to program for. Everybody wins: the gamers, the programmers AND the company. Somewhere along the line, gamers seem to have forgotten that this is all supposed to be for fun and entertainment, not flashy graphics, rushed development and clumsy gameplay. (yes, yes, generalizing and stereotyping, blah blah blah) I really like that Nintendo keeps the focus on games, gamers and gaming instead of on creating a premium product catering to the niche market that's capable of affording it. These debates make me seriously miss text gaming on my Apple IIe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 My apoligies. When I meant "Barely Good", I meant "Hardly Good as the 360 and PS3". What's the definition of "good"?... but of course I'm assuming you mean "powerful"... you know I do find that ironic since a lot of people didn't like the GameCube yet it was a lot more powerful than the PS2. It wasn't as powerful as the Xbox but it was more A LOT more efficient than it which meant that it... *shrugs* I was psyched for Wii till I got Twilight Princess for GCN. I have to say it's an absolutely stellar goddamned game that really demonstrates the GCN's capabilities (as did MP2 and, to an admittedly lesser extent, the original Metroid Prime). I don't think that system got nearly the respect it deserved...a fate that Wii is pretty likely destined to share. When I *do* get a Wii, TP will likely still be the first game I buy, but until Metroid Prime 3 drops, I'll be patient with my DS addiction. =) (and yes, i'm excited as hell to use the Wiimote with many of TP's...tools) You're telling me, I have 32 GCN games at the moment... though that number is pretty low cause it's hard to find GCN games down here. If I could find all of the ones I want I'd have around 40-50 GCN games with all of them being good games worth buying and playing. @Lynk, you're right...all PS3 needs is some really fantastic games. However...it's going to take a long time for developers to really be able to take advantage of high-powered the system is. The fact of the matter is this (based on anecdotal and reported evidence, mind you): Wii is incredibly easy to program for, and the PS3 has a bitch of a learning curve. This puts Wii at a distinct advantage; in the time it takes for PS3 to reach a "reasonable" library of great [sic] titles that will be more in sync with its price, Wii's catalog will hit critical mass. In all likelihood, this span of time will also coincide with a price drop on both systems...which will again be a distinct advantage in Wii's favor since it's already at a previous-gen price now. I don't see this working out in anything but Nintendo's favor. Yes, I'm aware of all of this. But also take into account the fact that the hardware is only the first step. It doesn't matter how much a game takes advantage of what the system has, if the game is good, people will come, and if the game is really good, systems will sell. The game doesn't have to be the most graphically advanced or more advanced in other areas over every other game for it to be good. And I'm not talking about Wii here, I'm talking about the PS3. And yeah, Wii is a lot easier to develop for because it's essentially a suped up GameCube. Also take into account that the fact that the development kits are reported to cost around 1700USD-2000USD which, for those who don't know, is EXTREMELY CHEAP... but the PS3 is much more of a future success machine, it doesn't matter if it doesn't succeed now, cause you know that it's going to gain momentum later on. How much momentum? Don't know, but whatever Nintendo is going to do, they better take advantage of it now. Microsoft on the other hand got a year head start so they're fine for the moment, but if you actually look at how quickly the PS3 is selling, note that it's selling about the same amount of units as the 360 was when it was first released on a worldwide scale... EDIT: Oh and here's something for those who own/want a Wii but aren't sure what games are coming for it that might be good: http://gonintendo.com/?p=20642 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkle Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Yes, I'm aware of all of this. But also take into account the fact that the hardware is only the first step. It doesn't matter how much a game takes advantage of what the system has, if the game is good, people will come, and if the game is really good, systems will sell. The game doesn't have to be the most graphically advanced or more advanced in other areas over every other game for it to be good. And I'm not talking about Wii here, I'm talking about the PS3. You're absolutely right (though your comment could easily be applied to both systems in this context). But if Sony is eyeing the upper echelon of the gaming market, to at least some extent the games *have to* impress. "Pretty good" isn't going to sell $600USD systems when there's a saturated market of "pretty good" games for XBOX360 and a lot of titles are going to end up crossing over to both platforms. (the same, of course, can't safely be said about the Wii, but [at least in my opinion] the Wii has enough legacy gaming on its side to break even if not pull slightly ahead) And yeah, Wii is a lot easier to develop for because it's essentially a suped up GameCube. Also take into account that the fact that the development kits are reported to cost around 1700USD-2000USD which, for those who don't know, is EXTREMELY CHEAP... Is jmac's report of 20K for a PS3 devkit accurate? but the PS3 is much more of a future success machine, it doesn't matter if it doesn't succeed now, cause you know that it's going to gain momentum later on. How much momentum? Don't know, but whatever Nintendo is going to do, they better take advantage of it now. Microsoft on the other hand got a year head start so they're fine for the moment, but if you actually look at how quickly the PS3 is selling, note that it's selling about the same amount of units as the 360 was when it was first released on a worldwide scale... That surprises me; I would have thought from buzz and strawpolls [of friends] that the sales were significantly slower than that. Within a month of the 360's release I knew 5 people who owned one. Now, I only know one person with a PS3--and it should be stated that he has one of almost every video game system ever released (not an exaggeration), and his honest opinion is that no one should be buying one yet. ("I bought it just to have it, it's not worth the money yet and I rarely use it. I play my Wii more."--direct quote) I do firmly expect that there will be a massive rebound for the PS3 in about a year or so and recognize that it *will* gain momentum. That's not in question; I'd very much like to know, however, what straw it will take to break the camel's back and cause the uproar the PS3 "deserves." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Is jmac's report of 20K for a PS3 devkit accurate? Yeah that's right. Smaller developers are looking towards Wii for a solution. Wii has become the new PS2 in that every small developer will release every game they can on it. That surprises me; I would have thought from buzz and strawpolls [of friends] that the sales were significantly slower than that. Within a month of the 360's release I knew 5 people who owned one. Now, I only know one person with a PS3--and it should be stated that he has one of almost every video game system ever released (not an exaggeration), and his honest opinion is that no one should be buying one yet. ("I bought it just to have it, it's not worth the money yet and I rarely use it. I play my Wii more."--direct quote) It's because of Japan and Europe. Everyone knows that Xbox has never sold well in Japan and in Europe their was a huge surge of PS3 sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Yeah that's right. Smaller developers are looking towards Wii for a solution. Wii has become the new PS2 in that every small developer will release every game they can on it. http://www.warioworld.com/licensing/becomelicensee/ <- that makes things a bit harder for smaller companies. Although standards like that definitely make sure there isn't a flood of horrible games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Sony and Microsoft do it too. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 anyone wanna plan a bank heist?? Sure, but only if it is one of those cool heists like in Die Hard III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 It's because of Japan and Europe. Everyone knows that Xbox has never sold well in Japan and in Europe their was a huge surge of PS3 sales.Another thing Japan has got spot on: don't trust Microsoft lol Sure, but only if it is one of those cool heists like in Die Hard III. Nah, Die Hard 4.0 will be cooler, they've got cyber terrorists in that, gonna rob a bank online! Terrorist: Stick 'em up Mr Bank manager! Bank manager: This is an automated e-mail, please do not reply to this e-mail... Terrorist: What?! *blasts PC into smithereens* Enter John McLane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Nah, Die Hard 4.0 will be cooler, they've got cyber terrorists in that, gonna rob a bank online! I prefer hard currency, and 14 dump trucks filled with 30 billion in gold bullion each is the definition of hard currency. On-topic: If the Wii comes out with a lightsaber game I just might have to get one. But I prefer my good ol PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Actually, gold is a soft metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkle Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Actually, diamond is the hardest metal known to man. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_man Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 On-topic: If the Wii comes out with a lightsaber game I just might have to get one. But I prefer my good ol PC. I'm right there with ya RedHawke. I like my PC, but I can't play the recent games because 1) I haven't updated my graphics card in years and 2) I prefer the games for the consoles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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