Kain Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Bad thread ressurectors. BAD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I HATE that excuse that she died of a broken heart. Here is a Director with piles of cash and the man can't even create a good excuse for why she died? My god... Someone else should right these movies for him! Sorry bout that. Had to unleash my love/hate relationship for GL EDIT: And don't blame me Kain I'm a bored man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrone333 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I read that Sidous killed her from Anakin turning to dark side to save padme. It said that sidous made anakin hate the people he loved and he killed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I HATE that excuse that she died of a broken heart. Here is a Director with piles of cash and the man can't even create a good excuse for why she died? My god... Someone else should right these movies for him! Sorry bout that. Had to unleash my love/hate relationship for GL. Yeah I hear you. I kinda love that she died the way she did as there's the horrible inevitability in Anakin's actions. His desperation to save her from the future caused it. But at the same time... she died of a broken heart? Lame. Padme was really shafted in the prequels. Most of the deleted material was hers. Bad thread ressurectors. BAD! This was about the 3rd newest thread in this section when I posted. It's not my fault this area is so dead there's threads on the first page that are over a year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 But at the same time... she died of a broken heart? Lame. Padme was really shafted in the prequels. Most of the deleted material was hers. I personally think it would have been better if Anakin choked her so badly that her throat was crushed and had to breath threw a tube. Then after she gave birth she died. Later on they find out what the babies were to be named after reading her diary or something. Also by the way there is something called broken heart syndrome, but nothing like that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Why can't it be a combination of both? If you want to recover from wounds, you'll need the mental power and recilience to do so. Placebo's proof this. Padme might have been mortally wounded, but with good chances to survive. But if the mind doesn't want to do so...it won't work. Although I still find it weird she doesn't stuff it away to raise the children. I mean, what's the point? She leaves the children mother and fatherless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I'd give you that it could have been a mixture of injury, and not wanting to recover... but Dr. Droid makes it perfectly clear that she's perfectly healthy. Silly George. I wish it was handled better. There should have been more time between the kid's birth and Padme's death. There could have been a moment for Padme to be with her daughter to explain Leia's memories in Ep 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Ah, that would indeed be better. That she would originally recover, safeguard her children and possibly then die of complications. And, like you said, it would explain why Leia has those memories...I don't really buy those 'the has her eyes open in Episode 3!' stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Remember though, Z, that Luke and Leia are both force sensitives. It could be that the infant Leia felt her mother through the force, maybe even during pregnancy. But, it is still curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Yeah, the force sensitive theory has been brought up multiple times. Several canon stories even confirm it somehow. I recall reading a story about a little Luke who´s capable of levitating one of his toys, after which his uncle says never to do so again. If he´s capable of doing that as an infant, he could indeed have been...strong in the force at birth. Same goes for Leia... But that still doesn't explain how they felt Padme. Levitating your lego is one thing, reading or feeling one's mind right after your birth is something else. Which brings up another theory of Padmé being Force Sensitive, which is supported by Episode 3...*sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Why can't it be a combination of both? If you want to recover from wounds, you'll need the mental power and recilience to do so. Placebo's proof this. Padme might have been mortally wounded, but with good chances to survive. But if the mind doesn't want to do so...it won't work. [/quote=Ztalker] Unfortunately this is impossable, think of the glorious day when all those darn emos die due to their self inflicted papercuts. Better than mudkipz. She does not seem to be suffering from mortal wound. And no generally you don't "will yourself to die" from a simple cut, plus she is probably not willing herself to death due to her kiddos and such. So even if she lost the will to live, it would hardly be fatal. Oh, and if Palpy is behind her killing then he would have known of the twins. So unless he intend on acquiring them later for his own use he would have done something about it. Even if, in the event that he DO want the twins, he would have done even more to safeguard their usefulness, including elimination of ObiWan. Well, unless he is too coward to face a future great Sith. Although I still find it weird she doesn't stuff it away to raise the children. I mean, what's the point? She leaves the children mother and fatherless. I keep hoping that she is actually alive and the death is just a ruse of a dead handmaiden or something. Where she can raise Leia in secrecy disguising as a maid under Organa's guidance. MARA JADE! Padme to be in Star Wars again? Maybe, but I'm thinking the faves for this would be either Jade or Aayla Secura. Secura would be nice. Would be hard to make characters with meaningful death like ObiWan coming back without raising huge sheetstorm though. Hmmm... chewie. Impossable, but would be nice, none the less. His death is so undeserved. As for jade, I love her character, but in the end I think she got a somewhat reasonable death, and while she is looking good also (despite her age she looks really young and juicy still) I mean, it would be stupid indeed to see a 90 year old Han in daipers yelling YeeHow in a even more beat up Falcon while mistaking the wrinkled up Leia as good old chewie due to partly Han's catarac and partly Leia's new look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 One of Anakin's dreams has Obi wan talking to Padme, saying "don't give, save your energy" or something to that effect. Is it likely that it was only shot for the dream? Or could it be that the birth/death scenes had more/different content in it? I'm just deluding myself really, I just wish it was better and George would fix it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurges-Ahter Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I agree that there has to be more in the cut content we didn't see - that we just have to accept that she lost the will to live and therefore died. Sidious also says to Vader something like "In your rage you killed her" - which is mostly meant to manipulate Vader but could also have some truth to it. In his turn to the DS and subsequent attack on Padme she had nothing left to live for in her mind, despite the birth of her children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedil3thal Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 She died from a Broken Heart because she wanted to see Anakins face while she was giving Childbirth so that could be why she died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relenzo2 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 You don't need previous injuries for a stressful childbirth or complications... it would make sense that her "losing the will to live" would render her unable to cope with the rigors of childbirth at all. It make perfect sense... except for that #*($ "Dr. Droid" as one of you said, telling us she's "perfectly healthy... there's nothing wrong", telling us nothing went wrong with the pregnency and George is expecting us to beleive that she was the first person to "will herself to death". An emo hero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripHammer Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 I guess to accept the story line, you have to accept the fact that a person can lose the will to live. If a person is close to death and pretty much can go either way (50/50 chance of living or dying).. does a person have the ability to just give up on life.. or do they survive based strictly on health reasons irregardless as to their depression? I think a person can lose the will to "fight" for life. I think a person can tip the scales of survival if they have it in them to survive at all costs. Take that "will to survive" away and that 50/50 ratio can slant a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@RS Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I agree, some people just don't fight others do, maybe to see something or experience something, not sure but they fight back and sometimes they win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 She died of a broken heart, but that's a pretty awful excuse for getting rid of a character. People don't fall over dead just because they don't feel like living anymore. actually they do, if they've suffered intense emotional or physical stress. it's called 'stress cardiomyopathy' or 'broken heart syndrome'. it's actually quite common, happens a lot with older people. basically it weakens the heart muscles causing heart failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relenzo2 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 So one of the main characters is a victem of a complicated deseise known as stress cardiomyopathy? So, Star Wars is a medical drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 it's not a complicated disease... it a form of heart attack or heart failure brought about by some sort of trauma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Here it goes... House: Star Wars Edition. That, or Padme has been listening to My Chemical Romance way too much. When I Was... A Princess... My Ani took me into the city... To see a marching band... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@RS Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Only to choke and kill me!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relenzo2 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 You guys are geniuses. Forget the Clone Wars series, we need another alternate history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galizien Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 "An unmentionable disease carried by men and suffered by women"- Ellen Rimbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djidara Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 why are u trying to find realistic answer why she died? star wars is not suppose to be realistic. this is story/saga/tail, call it what ever you want, and people die from heart break some times in things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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