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Sun-Shine

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I'm a very attractive individual. Most people tell me that I should be a model or on television. Now that California's State school budget has been cut, I'm not sure if I can get into college. Plus, with the war and high gas prices the future seems so bleek. Do you think it's possible for a person to make it on their looks? I see all of these celebrities getting rich with little to no talent. What do you think?

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Asking for advice from a bunch of Star Wars geeks like us, especially when we know nothing else about you than this one single post, is worth about as much as the electrons this is written with.

 

The only thing I will say is beauty fades, but a college degree is forever.

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I think Jae is right about two things. We know nothing about you and what you perceive as success or how long term you expect that kind of success to be. Also, in a youth obsessed culture, your looks will last as long as it takes for the next young hottie to take your place.

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Most wealthy people have inherited their wealth(either through family or connections) and success, have stolen it, and the few people who have worked REAL hard for it, will tell you that you need brains.

 

I mean, what happens when you turn 30 and your looks fade? You gonna take the roles as the evil witch or "yesterday's" model? I doubt it. You'll get some good time out of your body is you're REALLY lucky, otherwise no.

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Do you think it's possible for a person to make it on their looks?[/Quote]For a time my answer would be yes, but looks fade. I believe someone can get by on personality and brains longer than with looks.

 

I see all of these celebrities getting rich with little to no talent. [/Quote]Are you sure, they have no talent or just a talent you do not appreciate? Even models that get by on their looks have some talent that allows the photographer to get the shot they want. Sure, there are some like Paris Hilton, but they were born into a famous family with money.

Does college equal success? [/Quote] No, but neither does hard work and dedication, yet all can help you become successful.

 

Can a person make it on their looks alone? [/Quote] I think that would depend on what you mean by “make it.” If you mean get by, then yes, perhaps for a while you can. If you mean becoming proud of who you are, then my answer is no. A college education can not do that either, but it can help how you think about yourself.

 

I mean, what happens when you turn 30 and your looks fade?
Your looks do not magically disappear once you’re over 30. I represent that accusation. Wait, I mean I resent that accusation.

The only thing I will say is beauty fades, but a college degree is forever.
The value of an education (as opposed to going through the motions to get the piece of paper) cannot be overestimated.
Don’t know how many times I will get to write this, I could not agree more with both Jae and Achilles on the topic of this thread.

 

:rofl: --Jae

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Anything less than sheer perfection in looks and education is no good to a lot of people. Not only do you need qualifications that'll knock your employer's socks off you need the looks to sell a product, they want Padme rather than Mothma, Anakin rather than Sidious.

 

That depends on what your doing. If you are running a very successful software business and your face has a large scar down the middle no one is going to care about your looks they are going to care about your software.

 

If your working at a job that doesn't require your appearance then the employer doesn't even care less what you look like. They just look at your resume and look at your qualifications.

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I think what Sun_shine is trying to get at is that with the rise in costs, would it just be better to work all your life rather than try for something that is wildely expensive and has been known to have people in debt for years? I believe I stated in another thread that with the changes in the Education budget and the cuts that fees were predicted to go up and more potential students are being turned away. My point there was that while we preach that everyone should get an education our legislation and excutive powers have made it more difficult. Recently a classmate who works for CalTans mentioned that the Governinator cut the state budget acoss the board meaning that a lot of our state budgets in every department were cut. Where all that money is going I have no clue but it is going to do nothing for our state economy. We already rank 50 out of 50 in education when we used to be number 1. How much more must we screw with our economy?

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Well I didn't go to University because I didn't get enough GCSE's or A-Levels to be accepted into higher education, I trained to be a Bricklayer, and although I am as Hot as a Pistol, I chose not to be a Model Slash Actor (lol,srcsm) nah... But life's not that black and white, you may not be intelligent or good looking enough to earn a living at either. I provide for myself and contribute to society as much as I can with what skills and guile I have. :twocents:

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Looks definitely helps. And yes you can capitalize on it. Just know that it is a resources that does not last long, so use it while you can and get as much out of it as you can until it fades should you choose that path.

 

Oh, and like everyone else... investment is a good way to deal with yoru extra $$$. It goes a long way.

 

Then again, so did some old dude ready to go at any moment with your name as the sole benefactor in the will, along with his dog.

 

On college degree... unless it is something technical (in some famous collage even) whatever you learn from it is highly meaningless when you work for more than a couple of years and have the nice track record to prove it. Plus, if you have the cash many places would offer a degree... and it looks just the same to the world. But like I said a college degree is a resources... though you can acquire it at any time and still get its functionality done, like parttime studying later.

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I have always been taught, to go to college. Nearly all of my teachers say that it is worth it, and try no to think about the money. I definately know that that is a nearly impossible feat nowadays. I would definately say go to college, so at least you have something to fall back on if your plans to become a model or a actor on television don't work out (yes, I probably mis-interpreted this statement made by Sun_Shine, but regardless...). Or, at least, this is what I have been taught...

 

~Rev

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Here's something to think about my grandfather told me today about when I asked him about college(he's really good with econonomics, he was a stockholder once),:

 

My aunt, my grandfather's daughter, went to college. She graduated and got a degree. When she went to get the job of her dreams, she found out she was overqualified, and couldn't have the job. It turns out she ended up working for the government's communications monitoring department, and is paid quite well; which was completely different than what she went to college for. Now she goes all over the world on different luxurious vacations, and she didn't even have a degree for the job that mad eher so wealthy, and what's funny is government jobs usually require degrees to get, but she got the job without the degree. Turns out she wasted 40,000 dollars on a college educaton she never ended up using, but she still got a great job.

 

And the moral of the story is... (Insert moral/helpful advisement here)

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Saying she never used her education is probably utterly and completely false. Perhaps you meant "she didn't use her education to get her job," which is an entirely different animal.

 

I'm not working in the field I have a degree in, but I apply my education to daily life -- each and every day mind you -- and I don't feel a penny was wasted.

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Well, things like that do happen in people's lives. But I think that it is generally, IMo, a good idea to still go to college mainly because you still don't know what is going to happen in your life. Plans don't always work out. I think that it would be better not to take that kind of a chance and just wait for a well-paying job where you don't really need a degree. Yes life is full of risks, but, in my book, you shouldn't wait for good things to happen to you/ come to you. Just my thoughts on the matter. :)

 

~Rev

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The point I'm trying to make is this:

 

Most often a person goes to college, getting a degree in hopes of getting a certain job. And a lot of times it ends up that they either don't get the job or they end up getting a completely different job entirely. So if you were to go to college and get a degree, don't expect to actually get the job you're wanting, because you could get turned down for various reasons, even for being overqualified in some cases. The moral: Don't expect to get the job you want just because you went to college.

 

I'm not saying your education was totally wasted if things didn't turn out perfect from college, and I'm not suggestign not to go to college, I'm just saying that you should expect life to not always turn out the way you plan.

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