Ztalker Posted June 1, 2008 Author Share Posted June 1, 2008 Which were destroyed by ancient and still efficient war techniques like rolling logs in front of them, or baltsic pressure by a ram. What the 'advanced Rebellion' did on Hoth is not that difference. You spot a weakness, and use it against the enemy. In this case: Logs + flimsy unstable legs = autch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@RS Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 agreed... the thing I don't understand is why the stormtroopers didn't really go after Han and Leia because they were the ones who did them the most trouble in the end, I think... I don't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurges-Ahter Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Which were destroyed by ancient and still efficient war techniques like rolling logs in front of them, or baltsic pressure by a ram. What the 'advanced Rebellion' did on Hoth is not that difference. You spot a weakness, and use it against the enemy. In this case: Logs + flimsy unstable legs = autch Agreed - it wasn't all that different than what was done on Hoth. The only unbelievable part is that those monstrous machines would have such flimsy, unstable legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 Yeah, I was wondering about that too...it hardly has any value. Ah well...Palpatine must have been saving up for those Death Stars. "Tire tracks? Hover Tanks? No man, legs, LEGS!" *zap lightning* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Well, ATST is designed to be a scout transport and lighter combat mecha, with a reasonable cost and still maintain its effectiveness. Plus, I don't think the empire have gigantic rolling trees in mind when they do the stress testing. What amazes me is that any similar tactic should have been known by the empire, having faught against things like wookies and other tree hugging species. Though, I doubt even the imps would like to stay at the darklands under the wookiee trees for any long period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpentine Cougar Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Though, I doubt even the imps would like to stay at the darklands under the wookiee trees for any long period. Maybe that's why the CIS fought the wookies on that beach.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Maybe, now that you mentioned it, though the beach is not really part of the Darklands. CIS would have the advantage down in the shadowly undergrowth though, as most creatures do not consider inorganics like droids their yummy diet (by all means they can still tear those stuff apart for fun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Why not just carpet bomb the trees or something? It would certainly be more fun than pursuing enemies inside the forest when there's no strategic reason for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpentine Cougar Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Maybe, now that you mentioned it, though the beach is not really part of the Darklands. I didn't say it was. They wouldn't want to fight in the darklands (maybe), so they fought on the beach instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 Hmz... Maybe they chose the beachhead because it's one of the few open spaces on Kashyyy and to eliminate the possibility of guerilla tactics on the Wookiee's part. I mean, it's easier to ambush an army in the shadows, where you know the terrain, then on a beach where you are in plain sight. Also, maybe the CIS was taking the order 'form a beachhead' a bit to seriously Anyways, I think the point is clear here. Every Star Wars battle has logic behind it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel_Ewok Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Ewoks are really cute and smart to come up with all the plans they did.... So what if they didn't kill stormtroopers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGH ON PIE 14 Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Ewoks are really cute and smart to come up with all the plans they did.... QFT. They managed to take down imperial tanks with a few logs. Those were the elite stormtroopers... Pfft how elite can they be losing to ewoks armed with twigs. Lesson for the day: don't mess with the almighty ewoks! True we don't see any troopers being killed by the falling rocks and such but once they are knocked down, the ewoks could easily stab the in the armor's weak spots or grab dropped blasters. I know the ewoks don't use them, but they have seen enough stormtroopers to know how to use them. Maybe not the best aim, but at close range... its possible. I think the victory was plausible, given that there were far more ewoks than troopers and any troopers in tanks and spedders were taken out. Chewietaking over that tank probably had a fair amount to do with victory as well. The ewoks knew the land and had the element of surprise so yeah its possible. ~HOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Besides, I'm not sure what indication people get that the ewoks won the battle, just because we see some stormtroopers get knocked down. I find it strange how so many people blow the scenes of individual troops being taken by surprise out of proportion, but ignore the parts which show groups of ewoks fleeing from retaliatory attacks (AT-STs in particular). Besides, if the majority of the ewoks hadn't been driven off, then how would Han Solo have been able to convince the Imperial officers inside the bunker that the battle was over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_Kinnison Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 It is quite possible the troopers did lose. Especially if they just ran out and got lost in the woods while the Ewoks picked them off one by one. But I agree, the tied didn't really turn until Chewie stole the AT-ST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Well, it's obvious that the Imperial troops did lose eventually, but the most the ewoks did was serve as a major distraction and surprise attack force, rather than inflicting the bulk of the casualties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 mobile fluffy meatshields... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relenzo2 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Although, if you think about it, it DOES give the battle of Endor that 'epic self-sacrifice' tone it was orginally intended to have (with Han). Ewok suiicide bombers...never heared of them, but it sounds believable as a reason for them beating the Stormies. Ignor him, Ztakler... Those Ewoks wer enslaved, and had technological actual bombs strapped to them. e Huge Ewok home turf bonus+time they spent preparing (all those traps)+Chewie stealing enemy vehicle(and being the only good driver)+Han Solo+Luke(as Vader said, even the ability to destroy a planet is nothing when placed next to the role of the Force. For Force's sake, the Prophecy was almost fufilled here! And Luke is the son of the Chosen One, and Vader wasn't there unless he was offscreen like the Ewok Bombers)+A rebel strike force armed with guns most people seem to ignore= MAJOR PWNAGE GO WICKETT! And shame, all you GL haters! Really now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpentine Cougar Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Well, it's obvious that the Imperial troops did lose eventually, but the most the ewoks did was serve as a major distraction and surprise attack force, rather than inflicting the bulk of the casualties. Rather like the Gungans in Episode I... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 The Ewok concept was totally stupid, IMO. Maybe a meter taller would have been acceptable, but noo... Ewoks suck. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relenzo2 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 That seems like pretty baseless hatred, there. I realize some of you think Star Wars shouldn't have been so 'cute' but, well, suck it up, because this is what Star Wars IS, and you are fans if you're on this forum. George Lucas wasn't trying to follow canon, or, for that matter, hardcore fan expectations, he was SHAPING them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralPloKoon Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 I hate Ewoks, but being A Star Wars fan I love them at the same time like I love the Gungans. But I still don't understnad why didn't the Empire own the Ewoks completely, where were the AT-AT's? Or the Tie Bombers/Fighters, sure there are trees but its not Kashyykk! They can still fly around and bomb the villages!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallandro Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The thing is, that ewok battle is the summation and climax of the entire saga... and the fact that the ewoks won is the point of the entire theme of the saga: That technology has all the obvious advantages, but when it comes right down to it, the drive, determination, and spirit of living, breathing people will overcome those cold advantages. That was one of the original concepts (except the ewoks were wookiees) when Star Wars was still on the drawing board. I know they technically aren't human, but the theme is about the power of the "human spirit." Now, from a more technical standpoint, the ewok victory completely fits. Typically, people fighting for their homes and for their very freedom will have a spirit that is unmatched by any technilogical power... Although, to be fair, I probably wouldn't feel too comfortable saying that to someone from Alderaan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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