Rogue Nine Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 TNG wouldn't exist if it wasn't for that 'campy spectacle'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adavardes Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 The only reason TOS was popular because it was made and first viewed in the seventies, when the American viewing public had little to no taste beyond cheesefests where the leader has sex with everything he sees, so that means little to nothing in the grand scheme. Yes, the unfounded popularity in TOS did bring about TNG, but that by no means equates quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanius Anglesmith Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Picard, no contest. Picard is interesting, of course, and I like him for being what you said - but not fun. No fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allronix Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I actually voted for Sisko, because the others can hop in the ship and speed off from the mess they make. not him. He's gotta sit right in the middle of it. Actually, I explained on a Trek board that it's not a matter of who is the best. It's a matter of who fits the job better. Say something hostile is approaching Earth. 1. If there's no chance to negotiate send Kirk. 2. If you have a chance at a diplomatifc solution, send Picard. 3. If you don't know, send Sisko. 4. If you just need to slow it down and trick it, send Janeway. 5. If all you need is cannon fodder, send Archer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 The only reason TOS was popular because it was made and first viewed in the seventies, Wrong. when the American viewing public had little to no taste beyond cheesefests where the leader has sex with everything he sees, so that means little to nothing in the grand scheme. I think most people who grew up in or lived through the seventies would find this generalization of themselves tasteless. Yes, the unfounded popularity in TOS I don't think you can say that the popularity of TOS was unfounded being that it was the basis for the entire Star Trek franchise, which is immensely popular today. Enough people had to like it in order for things to be based off of it, so I think its popularity was well-founded. Just because you don't think it deserves 'dignity' doesn't make your opinion right, especially in light of everyone who grew up with and liked the show. but that by no means equates quality. Well, you'd better be thankful that someone thought Star Trek was a quality show enough to fund movies and spin-offs. If it wasn't for that, the Star Trek franchise wouldn't even exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Anyone who could have The Picard Maneuver named after him is worthy of major win. Id say having 2 planets named after you trumps that Data solved the Picard Maneuver in less than 3 seconds IIRC... @Allronix: Archer achieved quite a bit considering he had quite a primitive ship in comparison to the other Captains Plus they all cheated a bit... Picard and Janeway had Q, Archer had Daniels from the 30th century, and Kirk had his awesome 80s hair mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 That's cause Data is made of pure awesomeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 That's cause Data is made of pure awesomeness. He became a bit of a pain when he started that whole emotion chip business. If I could switch my emotions off, Id do it most of the time - and only turn it on when Im having pizza and *deleted* mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I voted the Sisko. He relies less on technobabble solutions and more on blowing things up in the right order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I voted the Sisko. He relies less on technobabble solutions and more on blowing things up in the right order. BRAG ALL YOU WANT, BUT DON'T STAND BETWEEN ME AND THE BLOOD WINE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 BLOOD WINE! the sisko drinks blood wine! One of the many resons i voted for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorenna Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 BRAG ALL YOU WANT, BUT DON'T STAND BETWEEN ME AND THE BLOOD WINE!! Hahaha, one of the greatest Klingon episodes ever--stands right up there with Blood Oath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I voted for Picard, he was a lot more well rounded than the other Captains. Kirk had a tendency to be a loose cannon. Sisko well he was okay, but Picard beats him hands down. Janeway was so annoying I couldn't stand her. Archer was well I think I'll blame the writers for why Enterprise was messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Yeah, and then they had to end ENT as another episode of TNG to try to save what was left of it... *sighs* ENT had so much potential and some of the later stuff was pretty good... oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I thought the enterprise episode with the borg was pretty good. it was one of the few good episodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorenna Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 I thought the enterprise episode with the borg was pretty good. it was one of the few good episodes Yea, that one was great! Most of the others were wierd, even for Star Trek. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 The Klingons define what cool is. so if i had to vote for a captain...i would vote for sisko again since he had so many dealing with the klingons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 The Klingons are far from the definitive "cool" Trek villain. The only really cool Klingon in the franchise is Worf. Other than him, the Klingons are a shallow villain that haven't posed any sort of threat to the Federation since Kirk's days. The only thing that even puts Sisko on the map is his beard and baldness, and maybe Odo. Other than that, he brings nothing to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 But sisko is THE SISKO. he helped stop the dominion war, he sealed Dukat away in the fire caves. He entered the wormhole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 You've just listed all the things I didn't like about Deep Space Nine. Especially Sisko's ties to the Bajoran Prophets. The show simply became far too metaphysical for my tastes, and tried to be a kind of religious commentary. Tried, and failed. Miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Didn't you like the Dominion war? it was the best thing i have ever seen in star trek! battles, battles and more battles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 The "best thing in Star Trek" has to be handed, without question, to the two-parter The Best of Both Worlds; by far the most intense story-arch in the entirety of the franchise. Voyager tried to duplicate it with the cliffhanger ending from Unimatrix Zero, but it just wasn't gut wrenching nor terrifying enough to stand up to the saga of Locutus. The Dominion War was a lame attempt to bring some shallow explosions and phaser battles to an otherwise dull, dreary, parked-in-the-snow kind of show that DS9 had become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 The "best thing in Star Trek" has to be handed, without question, to the two-parter The Best of Both Worlds; by far the most intense story-arch in the entirety of the franchise. Voyager tried to duplicate it with the cliffhanger ending from Unimatrix Zero, but it just wasn't gut wrenching nor terrifying enough to stand up to the saga of Locutus. The Dominion War was a lame attempt to bring some shallow explosions and phaser battles to an otherwise dull, dreary, parked-in-the-snow kind of show that DS9 had become. I gotta hand it to the Doc... BOBW is the best storyline in Star Trek - maybe with Unifcation a close second... (Spock?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I thought Janeway was a nice character, in hte begining I hated her and ached to shoot her with a phaser rifle, but as the series went one she got better and better, she got rid of that god-awful hairstyle and got a new one, she started teaching seven of nine about humanity and she finally got a sense of humor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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