UN, Europe, the far left, and Anti-Sematism

[GarfieldJL]

I actually stumbled on this by accident when searching for information on another topic. What I found was an interesting read (and this is from 2005).

Anti-Defamation League

 

Incident 1: Spain

Europe has a shamefully long list of recent anti-Semitic acts. To give you an idea of what is going on in the "Old World", I could start with examples from around Europe, but I want to highlight something that happened in my country a few months ago because Spaniards believe there is no anti-Semitism in Spain.

 

The Town Hall of Oleiros, in the northern province of Galicia, has an international cooperation program to aid development in the Third World. To raise money for this worth cause, the mayor decided to sell t-shirts. Unfortunately, these were not just any t-shirts. One t-shirt showed Ariel Sharon as a dragon devouring the bloody corpses of Palestinian children with George Bush riding him like a cowboy on a horse.

 

The Mayor, apparently believing his message too subtle, decided to post on the illuminated outdoor municipal message board the following: "Let´s stop the animal, Sharon the assassin, stop the neo-Nazi."

 

Interestingly, the town´s international cooperation program states its actions should favour human rights: apparently, fighting anti-Semitism doesn´t fall into that category.

 

The Sharon t-shirt is no longer on sale. However, if you are feeling anti-patriotic today you can still visit Oleiros´ webpage and buy a t-shirt depicting the US flag as a roll of toilet paper and urging everyone to use it.

 

Incident 2: Spain

Unfortunately, this in not the only incident in Spain: Barcelona City Hall placed a Star of David side-by-side with a swastika on the official web page, later removing it but without offering any apologies or explanations; in June 2004 a plaque honouring victims of the Holocaust in Montjic Cemetary in Barcelona was vandalized for the fourth time since 2002.

 

And that's just the start of the piece.

[jrrtoken]

I don't understand what this has to do with the far-left or the UN, just a bunch of closet fascists from Spain. Either way, I believe that this mayor should be tried for hate crimes, or something to that extent.

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

ooh i love it when people equate not agreeing with everything israel does with antisemitism. i admit the second quote you posted was over the line, but sharon isn't exactly an angel and israel isnt entirely innocent when it comes to killing civilians. also the israelis found that sharon bore "personal responsibility" for the Qibya Massacre since soldiers under his command killed around 70 palestinians and blew up a bunch of houses, a school, and a mosque. so yeah he's kind of a horrible person because he actually did kill a bunch of palestinians.

 

 

nice job weaseling 'UN' and 'the far left' into the title of a thread about a town in spain.

[GarfieldJL]

I don't understand what this has to do with the far-left or the UN, just a bunch of closet fascists from Spain. Either way, I believe that this mayor should be tried for hate crimes, or something to that extent.

 

Keep reading, there is a lot more than what I quoted in the first post.

 

Incident 3: Great Britain

In 2003, Labour MP Tam Dalyell decried the influence of "a Jewish cabal" on British foreign policy reinforcing the theme of Jews controlling the world.

 

Incident 4: France

On Saturday December 18, 2004 French Holocaust denier Professor Robert Faurisson former lecturer of Lyon University, gave an interview to Iran's Mehr News Agency about France's decision to ban Al-Manar TV:

 

MNA: "Actually, France doesn't respect the rights of its citizens, as it has banned the hijab (Islamic headscarf) in public schools. How do you assess that?"

 

Faurisson: "Because Jews, in a certain way, are used to treating the French as they treat Palestinians. The difference is that Palestinians refuse to obey the Jews, whereas the French obey the Jews, once more because of the Big Lie of the alleged 'Holocaust,' in which unfortunately they seem to believe…

The alleged 'Holocaust' of the Jews is the sword and the shield of the Jewish tyranny all over the world. Destroy it"

(Middle East Media Research Institute, 20 December 2004)

 

The article continues:

This new anti-Semitism´s tactic in Europe is the systematic and heartless banalization of the Holocaust. The opinion makers, the intellectuals, from Nobel Prize winner José Saramago to the average journalist, don't think twice about accusing Israeli leaders of genocide or Hilter-like practices or of comparing Auschwitz and the prisons in Iraq. Such wording brings the Holocaust down to the level of just "another killing" and not one of human history's worst atrocities. Doing this, frees guilty consciences without addressing its underlying problems. Everyone is free to forget.

 

And in forgetting springs prejudice. Together with this banalization, the European Intelligentsia engages in anti-Israeli practices far out of proportion with any logical criticism of Sharon´s policies. Israel´s faults, mistakes, unlawful acts are magnified, Palestinian ones reduced. Israeli army attacks are splashed on the front pages while Palestinian terrorism tucked away and covertly justified if reported on at all. Just look at the veneration showered on Yasir Arafat in the European media after his death. There was barely a word of criticism. The effect of this bias is an information deficit, especially as it relates to how the violence and the Middle East conflict is analyzed and transmitted to the public. Israel's presumed guilt is always looming in the background. The burden of proof is inverted, Israel must justify its actions and explain itself before a jury that has often made up its mind in advance.

[jrrtoken]

Then what does this have to do with the "far-left" and the UN? All that you have shown are isolated incidents of anti-Semitism that has nothing to do with supposed liberals.

[GarfieldJL]

Then what does this have to do with the "far-left" and the UN? All that you have shown are isolated incidents of anti-Semitism that has nothing to do with supposed liberals.

 

Officials in Public Office and recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize are not isolated incidents.

[jrrtoken]

Officials in Public Office and recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize are not isolated incidents.

Please don't tell me that you think that there's a massive anti-Jew conspiracy in Europe...

 

And you still haven't answered my question yet. What does this have to do with the "far-left"?

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

ooh i love it when people equate not agreeing with everything israel does with antisemitism.

quoting myself because this bears repeating.

 

Officials in Public Office and recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize are not isolated incidents.

yes

 

they kinda are.

 

that article named like 3 people ON AN ENTIRE CONTINENT that made antisemitic remarks. oh and one of them actually made a valid criticism of ariel sharon so more like 2.5. as for european newspapers criticizing israel, i'm guessing the adl will have to convince israel to stop killing palestinian civilians or get some tougher skin, since killing civilians wont be cool again until 2015 :/

[GarfieldJL]

Please don't tell me that you think that there's a massive anti-Jew conspiracy in Europe...

 

Europe has a history of Anti-sematism, and it isn't only the Germans that have that history. The French among others have that legacy as well.

 

And you still haven't answered my question yet. What does this have to do with the "far-left"?

 

Uh it's in the article.

 

Austria has "no specialised body to record incidents, and a lack of consistency in recording complaints of racial discrimination in general and antisemitism in particular." Extreme right wing groups´ publications are monitored, but as we saw, New anti-Semitism is becoming a left-wing phenomena. Authorities need to adjust.

 

That is one part of the article, there are others.

 

Also in the article:

The majority of E.U. governments -Austria, Belgium, Greece, Spain, Ireland, Luxembourg, Italy, Portugal and Finland- conduct no systematic monitoring of Anti-Semitic incidents at all.

So the lack of reports is in no way an indication that they don't take place, apparently these countries apparently don't document it or they just leave that part out of the report.

 

that article named like 3 people ON AN ENTIRE CONTINENT that made antisemitic remarks.

 

No, they just didn't go into a game of naming every single individual or in some cases they don't know who did it.

 

oh and one of them actually made a valid criticism of ariel sharon so more like 2.5. as for european newspapers criticizing israel, i'm guessing the adl will have to convince israel to stop killing palestinian civilians or get some tougher skin, since killing civilians wont be cool again until 2015 :/

 

Actually, I haven't gotten to newspapers and Human Rights Watch yet. Several newpapers were utterly humiliated here due to the bloggers I like to use as sources, in fact those bloggers forced Reuters among others to admit to using doctored photographs.

 

The first image was discovered on August 5, 2006 when blogger Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs wrote that the first image "shows blatant evidence of manipulation" (Adobe Photoshop clone stamp), Reuters "killed" the 'photograph' and released a statement that stated Hajj claimed to not have intentionally altered the photo but was trying to remove "dust marks". Reuters did not stand by the photographer and admitted that Hajj had altered it, saying "photo editing software was improperly used on this image. A corrected version will immediately follow this advisory. We are sorry for any inconvenience."

--Wikipedia Reutergate article

[Astor]

Europe has a history of Anti-sematism, and it isn't only the Germans that have that history. The French among others have that legacy as well.

 

I genuinely hope you aren't trying to paint all Europeans as Anti-Semites - because i'm incredibly offended if you are.

 

And one comment from one MP isn't indicative of Anti-semitism in the UK - and I think it's reaching at best to try and prove so.

[GarfieldJL]

I genuinely hope you aren't trying to paint all Europeans as Anti-Semites - because i'm incredibly offended if you are.

 

I'm not trying to paint all Europeans as that, but there is a pretty bad problem in Europe. I am going to state flat out that a fair number of the European media have been caught at using questionable sources to try to condemn Israel in the public's eye. Then they go and not report stories that are heinous because it condemns the Palestinians.

 

And one comment from one MP isn't indicative of Anti-semitism in the UK - and I think it's reaching at best to try and prove so.

 

I haven't gotten to other sources yet. Which I am getting to now.

 

Britain suffered the sharpest rise in anti-semitic attacks of any country last year, and British press coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a leading cause, according to an Israeli government report.

-- The Guardian, January 25, 2005

 

Then there is another 2005 article from I'm going to say a blog: aish.com

 

Then there is from the a paper in 2002

The Chief Rabbi warned last night that incidents of anti-Semitism are rising.

 

 

The Chief Rabbi warned last night that incidents of anti-Semitism are rising.

 

Rabbi Professor Jonathan Sacks said in a lecture to peers and MPs in London that the phenomenon was on the rise once more – particularly since 11 September – and "someone has to sound an early warning.

 

"We have engaged throughout Europe for the past half century in one of the most intensive education campaigns in all history – Holocaust education, interfaith dialogue, conferences on racism – and now we are seeing it return, despite everything," he said.

--The Independent, March 1, 2002

 

But wait there is more:

 

First, the idea of singling out Israel for a special boycott in a world in which academics are murdered, imprisoned, disappeared and censored is a reflection of a double standard so severe that it can be explained only by bigotry. And the excuse provided by supporters of the boycott exacerbates the problem.

--'There is more anti-Semitism in the UK than there is in Germany'

 

Another Blog I know they are pro-Israel but they raise some valid points including the BBC losing a court case. http://www.honestreporting.co.uk/articles/critiques/The_UK_Media_and_Anti-Semitism.asp

 

Really unlike the Guardian and other news outlets, I think the fact that terrorists tried to use a 12 year old as an unwitting delivery device for a bomb is news: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/apr/01/bbc.israel

That article demonstrates my point rather well.

 

I'm currently sorting through about 130,000 google hits.

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

No, they just didn't go into a game of naming every single individual or in some cases they don't know who did it.

and they also didnt go into a game of showing trends of major newspapers, magazines, television shows, radio stations, or any other form of media consistently making antisemitic comments.

 

Actually, I haven't gotten to newspapers and Human Rights Watch yet. Several newpapers were utterly humiliated here due to the bloggers I like to use as sources, in fact those bloggers forced Reuters among others to admit to using doctored photographs.

 

--Wikipedia Reutergate article

yes yes, we all know you hate every news source that doesnt report what you want to hear, however adnan hajj was fired and all of his photos, doctored or not, were removed from reuters' archives.

 

 

also it'd be nice if you could explain what this thread's point is and why you named it as you did, since right now i'm just assuming it's some sort of thinly veiled attempt at calling the un and liberals antisemites. hey, tell you what, you tell me what state you live in, and i'll find conservatives there who've made antisemitic comments, that way we can both have fun calling each other antisemites.

[GarfieldJL]

and they also didnt go into a game of showing trends of major newspapers, magazines, television shows, radio stations, or any other form of media consistently making antisemitic comments.

 

It is the transcript from a speech, do you know how boring it would be to listen to someone reading through the equivalent of a phone book.

 

yes yes, we all know you hate every news source that doesnt report what you want to hear, however adnan hajj was fired and all of his photos, doctored or not, were removed from reuters' archives.

 

They were removed after the bloggers blasted reuters for using doctored photos, and these are the same bloggers I have used in the past when I brought up this very incident. The photographs were so blatantly doctored, that anyone whom has worked with photoshop in the past could probably have been able to tell, and a good percentage of people here could have done a better job in the span of a few minutes.

 

also it'd be nice if you could explain what this thread's point is and why you named it as you did, since right now i'm just assuming it's some sort of thinly veiled attempt at calling the un and liberals antisemites. hey, tell you what, you tell me what state you live in, and i'll find conservatives there who've made antisemitic comments, that way we can both have fun calling each other antisemites.

 

This is actually an aside from a topic that got brought up in The Obama Cabinet Appointments. Figured I'd move it over here especially after stumbling across the first article I mentioned in this thread.

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

It is the transcript from a speech, do you know how boring it would be to listen to someone reading through the equivalent of a phone book.

thanks for letting me know i was trying to read it in haiku form.

 

They were removed after the bloggers blasted reuters for using doctored photos, and these are the same bloggers I have used in the past when I brought up this very incident. The photographs were so blatantly doctored, that anyone whom has worked with photoshop in the past could probably have been able to tell, and a good percentage of people here could have done a better job in the span of a few minutes.

i'm sure everyone here is well aware of your love of little green footballs and how their ability to detect shopped pictures proves reuters is antisemitic.

 

This is actually an aside from a topic that got brought up in The Obama Cabinet Appointments. Figured I'd move it over here especially after stumbling across the first article I mentioned in this thread.

yeah but what are you trying to prove with it? that there are antisemites in europe? yeah, there are, they're pretty much everywhere, just like every other group of anti-<group of people> idiots are.

[GarfieldJL]

thanks for letting me know i was trying to read it in haiku form.

 

Well you were the one asking about why there were so few names being mentioned.

 

i'm sure everyone here is well aware of your love of little green footballs and how their ability to detect shopped pictures proves reuters is antisemitic.

 

Uh, considering they consistantly used these photographs and were caught each time kinda indicates they were in a rush to condemn Israel.

 

yeah but what are you trying to prove with it? that there are antisemites in europe? yeah, there are, they're pretty much everywhere, just like every other group of anti-<group of people> idiots are.

 

However, you need to look at where it is centered, we're seeing it in Europe's acadamia, and news media. Which is far different than just a small group of people from off the street. Acadamia is what teaches youngsters, and if they are teaching them to hate Jewish People, then what would those kids do when they grow up, odds are they will also hate Jewish People. The media then goes and reinforces that belief.

[jonathan7]

Garfield, have you ever been to the UK? Because I can guarantee you that anti-Semitism isn't prevalent here at all; people of Arab and Asian backgrounds face far more racisim than the Jewish community. The BNP ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party ) targets, Africans, Arabs and Asians far more than it does Jews. Fact, and anyone that attempts arguing that is clueless about the UK - end of. As a final note, part of my current charity work/job/course; I am currently doing an inter-culture studies course, you may want to listen to me, over your bloggers as to the state of the UK; especially considering my course concentrates on minorities, understanding them, and how they are treated.

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

Uh, considering they consistantly used these photographs and were caught each time kinda indicates they were in a rush to condemn Israel.

what. they used the pictures, found out they were edited, then removed them, fired mr hajj and removed his photos from their archives.

 

However, you need to look at where it is centered, we're seeing it in Europe's acadamia, and news media. Which is far different than just a small group of people from off the street. Acadamia is what teaches youngsters, and if they are teaching them to hate Jewish People, then what would those kids do when they grow up, odds are they will also hate Jewish People. The media then goes and reinforces that belief.

alright, while we're examining things, let's take a look at the adl. they've been criticized on many occasions (by rabbis and notable authors and professors) and even admit to classifying criticism of israel as antisemitic.* they've also been accused of having a right wing bias when it comes to who they're willing to call antisemitic.*

 

* http://www.democracynow.org/2006/8/30/congressmember_weiner_gets_it_wrong_on , http://web.archive.org/web/20051110072600/http://www.tikkun.org/rabbi_lerner/ask_the_rabbi , noam chomsky's necessary illusions

* http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/10/01/nazi_insult/

[SW01]

I agree with jonathan7's post. Of all hate crimes and incitements to racial hatred in the UK, anti-Semitism seems one of the least prevalent. Not that any level is acceptable, but it is far from the all-pervading epidemic implied by that speech.

 

Also, I would like to draw attention to the following:

 

'The most important step is enforcement of a complete legal framework to go after those perpetrating hate crimes, inciting others to violence. Until governments take the matter as seriously as they take other criminal activities, nothing much can be hoped for.'

 

This speech was given in 2005. In 2001, Parliament passed the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act. Part 5 specifically deals with Race and Religion, and modifies the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 (references in which focused mainly on racial hatred) to include specific references to religious groups, defined as 'a group of persons defined by reference to religious belief or lack of religious belief' (s.39(4)). Penalties for such were also greatly increased. This is clearly far from 'indifference' to religious hate crimes.

[vanir]

I've got to say from a purely academic point of view, Garfield appears to have taken a piece of sensationalism and attempted to further that without an entirely independent research. This would be a debating tactic, not an academic research methodology.

 

The first thing you should do Garfield, is assume everything you've read is complete and utter farce. Believe that and then research its points independently. Be critical, and be skeptical.

Unless you too have an agenda.

 

An interesting thing is that whilst I personally note more free speech in the United States than in Europe, I note more indpendent political perspectives in Europe than in the United States. It seems whilst you're patting yourself on the back too much, you wind up not wanting to upset the apple cart.

[Astor]

However, you need to look at where it is centered, we're seeing it in Europe's acadamia, and news media.

 

Oh my, you're so right. It was only yesterday that Sky News was blaming the Zionist Conspiracy for the current economic downturn, and all of the world's ills.

 

And I can't remember the last time I heard a politics lecturer blame someone other than the Jews.

[GarfieldJL]

Garfield, have you ever been to the UK? Because I can guarantee you that anti-Semitism isn't prevalent here at all; people of Arab and Asian backgrounds face far more racisim than the Jewish community.

 

I'm not saying it is prevalent everywhere in the United Kingdom, but it is prevalent in your country's media and acadamia. The BBC has actually lost at least one court case in that regard, I'm using news sources from the United Kingdom.

 

I have been finding articles from your country that directly contradict you, even from the BBC which is well known to be biased against Israel. In fact your own government views this as a problem.

 

The former Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, who was one of the members of the panel, said the situation regarding anti-Semitic attacks was worse than he had previously believed.

 

"A combination of complacency and ignorance seems to be the name of the game here," he said.

 

"Many police forces simply keep no record of these attacks at all and therefore are unable to understand the depth or the strength of the nature of the problem.

 

"We found there was a very low level of prosecution seen through to their final end. It was almost as though they would shrug and leave it because it was just too difficult."

--MP's deliver anti-Semitism report, BBC

 

The BNP ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party ) targets, Africans, Arabs and Asians far more than it does Jews. Fact, and anyone that attempts arguing that is clueless about the UK - end of.

 

Yeah, that explains why the UK is implimenting muslim law throughout Britain, we've had topics on this in lucasforums, I'm not blind. Fact is your country's police won't even record the attacks, your own government has said that flat out.

 

Welcome to the website of The Parliamentary Committee against Antisemitism.

 

The rising tide of antisemitism in the UK is something that deeply concerns us all. As a group of parliamentarians we recognise our responsibility to take a lead in the fight against this latest incarnation of what is surely the oldest form of hatred.

 

Shortly after I was elected as Chair of this committee in the autumn of 2005, I commissioned the All-Party Parliamentary Inquiry into Antisemitism in the UK. Published last year in 2006, the Inquiry Report received much coverage and was welcomed by many who share our determination to confront and defeat antisemitism in this country and beyond.

 

In March of this year the government published its response to the Inquiry which welcomed many of the recommendations and echoed our concern in the face of a sharp increase in incident figures and general atmosphere of hostility towards Jewish people.

 

The committee is now fully focused on working with government and other partners to implement these and other measures to send out the clearest of messages; intolerance will no longer be tolerated.

 

I hope that you find both our work and the material on this website to be of interest.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

John Mann MP

Chair, The Parliamentary Committee against Antisemitism

-- http://www.thepcaa.org/

 

As a final note, part of my current charity work/job/course; I am currently doing an inter-culture studies course, you may want to listen to me, over your bloggers as to the state of the UK; especially considering my course concentrates on minorities, understanding them, and how they are treated.

 

As I've said, my sources are directly questioning the integrity of the media and acadamia in the United Kingdom.

 

 

Anyways here is a story concerning a bill passed in the United States House of Representatives calling for a push to reform the United Nations because of the anti-semitism: http://www.house.gov/chabot/UNamend2005.html

 

"The United Nations has, for some time, been a breeding ground for the dissemination of anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli propaganda. It took 16 years to reverse a General Assembly resolution that declared Zionism to be "a form of racism and racial discrimination." And it was only reversed after considerable pressure from the United States coupled with Israel�s decision to make its participation in the Madrid Peace Conference conditional upon repeal of the resolution.

 

"As noted in H. Res. 282, a bipartisan resolution introduced by the distinguished Chairman of the Middle East Subcommittee, Ms. Ros-Lehtinen, and adopted in this body last week, the UN Human Rights Commission took several months to correct in its record a statement by the Syrian ambassador that Jews allegedly had killed non-Jewish children to make unleavened bread for Passover.

 

"If that were not enough, the President of the Human Rights Commission, in 1997, refused to challenge an assertion made by the Palestinian observer that the government of Israel had injected 300 Palestinian children with the HIV virus.

 

"Speaking from experience, Mr. Chairman, I can assure my colleagues of the anti-Israel activity at the UN. In 2001, I was honored to be nominated by President Bush to serve as one of two Congressional representatives to the United General Assembly � along with my colleague Mr. Faleomavega. During the year-long appointment, I traveled back and forth to New York to meet with our then-Ambassador John Negroponte and our diplomatic delegation at the U.S. -U.N. mission. On one occasion, I went to New York to participate in a special summit on children. Throughout the conference, we discussed resolutions on childhood disease, HIV-AIDS, humanitarian assistance, child trafficking, and other critical issues. Throughout the final day, our delegation trudged through the minutiae of resolutions in committee and in the plenary session. Aside from the occasional objection to a comma or a whereas from the Chinese or the French, the day passed uneventfully. Or so I thought. As I was getting ready to leave that evening, I learned from our diplomatic corps that the real battle was not fought in the committees or on the floor. It was fought behind the scenes as our American delegation successfully fought off an attempt from the Arab bloc to deny Israel its credentials to participate in the children�s summit. So much for the children.

-- http://www.house.gov/chabot/UNamend2005.html

[Darth Deralia]

You like to blame Austria without gathering information, dont you?

 

1. There maybe arent specialised governmental bodies to list incidents, but many non-governmental for all minorities and they list incidents. These lists are in the media and they are objects of discussion. The most well known guy from these NGOs is Ariel Muzicant and hes very often in the media. The jewish minority is compared to its size far more powerful than the large minority groups (Turkey, eastern/southeastern Europe) and you want to tell me that Austrians are neos?

 

2. Right wing parties maybe get a lot of votes, but the majority of these are protest-voters or is frustrated about the non-functionating integration.

 

3. Every VIP who ever had contact to neos or is accused to ever had contact with neos, was and is and will be critized by the media and it will never be forgotten that someone had or could have had contact with neos.

[GarfieldJL]

You like to blame Austria without gathering information, dont you?

 

I've only been quoting from articles, to be fair there are some sites that condemn the European Union in general, and say that Austria is getting a bad rap.

If You Want Evil, Look Beyond Austria

 

There are other articles that condemn Austria as well.

 

1. There maybe arent specialised governmental bodies to list incidents, but many non-governmental for all minorities and they list incidents. These lists are in the media and they are objects of discussion. The most well known guy from these NGOs is Ariel Muzicant and hes very often in the media. The jewish minority is compared to its size far more powerful than the large minority groups (Turkey, eastern/southeastern Europe) and you want to tell me that Austrians are neos?

 

BBC News, Haider Setback in anti-Semitism row

 

2. Right wing parties maybe get a lot of votes, but the majority of these are protest-voters or is frustrated about the non-functionating integration.

 

What I am going after are the left wing groups, the far right nuts that are anti-semetic are usually treated as such by the media. I know there are far right nuts, most conservatives (at least in the United States) also think they are three-fries short of a happy meal, certifiably wacko. We don't see that kind of scrutiny concerning the left.

 

3. Every VIP who ever had contact to neos or is accused to ever had contact with neos, was and is and will be critized by the media and it will never be forgotten that someone had or could have had contact with neos.

 

And again to be fair, your country has been defended by some pro-Israel groups, saying that the problem is far worse in other European Countries.

 

I'm more concerned with the situation in the United Kingdom (at least Parliament admits there is a problem).

[jonathan7]

All your post was, was a lesson in how not to evaluate sources.

 

If I thought you might change your position, I would actually bother to construct the argument counter to your post, however I doubt you will change your position, and I have an exam in 15 minutes...

 

I'm not saying it is prevalent everywhere in the United Kingdom, but it is prevalent in your country's media and acadamia. The BBC has actually lost at least one court case in that regard, I'm using news sources from the United Kingdom.

 

Please indicate at any point any evidence what so ever that anti-Semitism is wildly prevalent in either the media or academia, none of your sources shows this.

 

I have been finding articles from your country that directly contradict you, even from the BBC which is well known to be biased against Israel. In fact your own government views this as a problem.

 

I love how the BBC is biased against Israel, and then you quote a BBC article. Anyone smell the irony?

 

--MP's deliver anti-Semitism report, BBC

 

Nice - I don't deny anti-Semitism happens, especially when morons respond with violence to Israel bombing the hell our of Lebanon; however that does not indicate a wide spread problem.

 

Yeah, that explains why the UK is implimenting muslim law throughout Britain, we've had topics on this in lucasforums, I'm not blind. Fact is your country's police won't even record the attacks, your own government has said that flat out.

 

ROFL - that is simply the funniest thing I have ever read on Lucas Forums - the UK is implementing Šarīʿah law? No its not, where on earth do you possibly get that impression? I'm just going to say this as its a fact; Quite frankly anyone trying to argue Šarīʿah has come through in the UK in anyway is clueless about UK legislature.

 

As I've said, my sources are directly questioning the integrity of the media and acadamia in the United Kingdom.

 

Funny how my "selective" sample of 50 + Jewish friends have never been a victim of racism (anti-Semitism). Nor do I see any media or academic agenda.

[Astor]

Yeah, that explains why the UK is implimenting muslim law throughout Britain, we've had topics on this in lucasforums, I'm not blind. Fact is your country's police won't even record the attacks, your own government has said that flat out.

 

That is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I echo J7's comment:

 

 

The plans were talking about allowing Muslims to open Muslim courts - not implementing the damned system in the entire judiciary. If you'd actually done some research into it you'd have realised the absurdity of your statement.