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well if you read the TOTJ and play KotOR 1 you'll notice that "Spandex" is quite common among Jedi, or at least the robes more stylish, tight fitting and colorful than the drab browns of TSL and the movies. I want armored Shoulder pads, and chains and amulets, hair jewelry, the whole shebang sister! I've worn an outfit consisting of some shade of beige tunic, with an ill fitting brown cloak to many times lol, the surrounding era's of this game (KotOR, TOTJ before and Jedi vs Sith after) have a far richer wardrobe than the movies.

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:lol: Lucas must be reliving his childhood. :D

 

Actually, George Lucas, rarely gets, directly, involved in the merchandise, like video games, books, comic, etc. He mostly gets involved in the "important" projects, such as, movies, The Clone Wars Television Series, and the Radio dramas. So far, those are the only places I've actually seen his name in the credits. Also, if he were involved, everything would be done his way. The Clone Wars (movie) and television series is proof of that. But, as a result of him getting involved, big named movie actors start showing up in the credits as well, such as Anthony Daniels, Samuel L. Jackson, Ahmad Best (Jar Jar Binks), and Christopher Lee have all made voice overs for either the movie version or the television series.

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I didn't mind the KotOR robes (as they were unique from the 4 millenium later films) - but they still looked more cloth-y than these lycra offerings. I think the ideal would be the KotOR-style tunic with an option for a cloak.

 

Yeah, I'm not sure how you're supposed to wield a lightsaber when you have to stop and pick a self inflicted wedgie.

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Too bad the Sith species is extinct.

 

And no, they have yet to be called "True Sith".

 

(Sigh.) Use your imagination, dude! I know it's canonically extinct! What I meant was (and I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this immediately) is that they could be revealed to be, you know, not actually extinct? Like perhaps a splinter faction went into hiding and restored their civilization back to its former glory in secret out in the Unknown Regions. You know, the "long-believed-to-have-vanquished-but-we-were-mistaken" route that such franchises often take?

 

I still say that the "true Sith" should have had something to do with the Sith species around Adas's time, who were previously primitive but propelled into a space age due to the arrival of the invading Rakata, but later devolved right back to the stone age by the time of the arrival of the Dark Jedi. It could have been revealed that those Sith who were able to adapt left their non-adaptive brethren behind, believing them to be "weak," while they themselves set out to build their empire elsewhere. Had this been the route Bioware had chosen to take, these other mysterious Sith would have been completely unique, having absolutely nothing to do with the Sith Order and, by extension, the Jedi. As such, their purpose for conquest could have been an equally unique one: instead of seeking to destroy the Jedi or the Republic (whom they really have no interest in whatsoever), perhaps the "true Sith" seek to destroy the Sith Order (i.e. the sworn enemies of the Jedi), believing them to be an extension of their "weak" counterparts whom they had abandoned on Korriban and Ziost all those millennia ago (and whom the exiled Dark Jedi had conquered, subjugated, and intermingled with, having become one society whose line of succession continued through various Sith Lords until the time of the game, including those we have seen in the previous two games). And if the Jedi or the Republic stand in the way, let them be crushed as well.

 

See, that would have made for an interesting plot premise. And there are a multitude of other connections they could have made as well. Instead, they went with the most predictable, obvious and uninteresting: that these are the continuation of the Sith from the Great Hyperspace War, which was everyone's first assumption all those years ago but was quickly buried in other, more interesting theories, being believed by most fans too obvious to be the truth. But unfortunately, that was what we got.

 

But still, with the connection they've made -- that this order is a continuation of the Old Sith Empire -- it would have been far more interesting had they made all of them of the Sith species-human Dark Jedi crossbreed seen in the Tales of the Jedi comics instead of plain old Sith lead by a single leader of the Old Empire, who is likely of said hybrid species. They could have wielded those Sith swords they used in the comics instead of lightsabers; the ones that were imbued with the Force to make them resistent to the Jedi's sabers. That would have been different and interesting.

 

In summary, I find what the "true Sith" have turned out to be(provided that this truly is the mysterious order that Kreia spoke of in the previous installment) extremely disappointing.

 

Also, I doubt very much that they actually call themselves "true Sith." That was simply how Kreia chose to refer to them.

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(Sigh.) Use your imagination, dude! I know it's canonically extinct! What I meant was (and I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this immediately) is that they could be revealed to be, you know, not actually extinct? Like perhaps a splinter faction went into hiding and restored their civilization back to its former glory in secret out in the Unknown Regions. You know, the "long-believed-to-have-vanquished-but-we-were-mistaken" route that such franchises often take?

 

I still say that the "true Sith" should have had something to do with the Sith species around Adas's time, who were previously primitive but propelled into a space age due to the arrival of the invading Rakata, but later devolved right back to the stone age by the time of the arrival of the Dark Jedi. It could have been revealed that those Sith who were able to adapt left their non-adaptive brethren behind, believing them to be "weak," while they themselves set out to build their empire elsewhere. Had this been the route Bioware had chosen to take, these other mysterious Sith would have been completely unique, having absolutely nothing to do with the Sith Order and, by extension, the Jedi. As such, their purpose for conquest could have been an equally unique one: instead of seeking to destroy the Jedi or the Republic (whom they really have no interest in whatsoever), perhaps the "true Sith" seek to destroy the Sith Order (i.e. the sworn enemies of the Jedi), believing them to be an extension of their "weak" counterparts whom they had abandoned on Korriban and Ziost all those millennia ago (and whom the exiled Dark Jedi had conquered, subjugated, and intermingled with, having become one society whose line of succession continued through various Sith Lords until the time of the game, including those we have seen in the previous two games). And if the Jedi or the Republic stand in the way, let them be crushed as well.

 

See, that would have made for an interesting plot premise. And there are a multitude of other connections they could have made as well. Instead, they went with the most predictable, obvious and uninteresting: that these are the continuation of the Sith from the Great Hyperspace War, which was everyone's first assumption all those years ago but was quickly buried in other, more interesting theories, being believed by most fans too obvious to be the truth. But unfortunately, that was what we got.

 

But still, with the connection they've made -- that this order is a continuation of the Old Sith Empire -- it would have been far more interesting had they made all of them of the Sith species-human Dark Jedi crossbreed seen in the Tales of the Jedi comics instead of plain old Sith lead by a single leader of the Old Empire, who is likely of said hybrid species. They could have wielded those Sith swords they used in the comics instead of lightsabers; the ones that were imbued with the Force to make them resistent to the Jedi's sabers. That would have been different and interesting.

 

In summary, I find what the "true Sith" have turned out to be(provided that this truly is the mysterious order that Kreia spoke of in the previous installment) extremely disappointing.

ZN, I find your idea of the True Sith to be mostly based on nit picks, rather than major differences from what we have here with TOR.

 

Also, I doubt very much that they actually call themselves "true Sith." That was simply how Kreia chose to refer to them.

Yes. Kreia said that Revan's Sith Empire was not actually Sith. For some inane reason she didn't think that Revan was a Sith, so her rationale for calling these Sith the "True" ones probably comes from her not believing that the Sith seen in KOTOR are actual Sith at all. More accurately, they would be called "True Sith" because they are the direct successors of the original Sith Empire.

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im also disappointed with this true sith from tor. Zerimar's ideas are a lot more interesting imo.

 

personally, i see no difference between revan's sith and tor's true sith. they both split from the jedi, they both want to take over the galaxy, blah, etc.

 

its just the same thing, it just happened at two different times. i dont see anything that makes the sith from the great hyperspace war any true-er than exar's, or revan's.

 

unless: a. im mistaken about something(s)

and b. bioware unleashes a colossal plot twist.

(im hoping for the latter!)

 

i think sith and jedi all throughout sw history have had a variety of clothes. some have flowing robes, while others have more practical spandex things.

as for wedgies, this is sw... its probably a wonderfully comfortable temperature controlling durable super fabric. its not a stretch (:xp:) to think of. i'm sure we have similar stuff here on earth.

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im also disappointed with this true sith from tor. Zerimar's ideas are a lot more interesting imo.

 

personally, i see no difference between revan's sith and tor's true sith. they both split from the jedi, they both want to take over the galaxy, blah, etc.

 

its just the same thing, it just happened at two different times. i dont see anything that makes the sith from the great hyperspace war any true-er than exar's, or revan's.

 

unless: a. im mistaken about something(s)

and b. bioware unleashes a colossal plot twist.

(im hoping for the latter!)

 

i think sith and jedi all throughout sw history have had a variety of clothes. some have flowing robes, while others have more practical spandex things.

as for wedgies, this is sw... its probably a wonderfully comfortable temperature controlling durable super fabric. its not a stretch to think of. i'm sure we have similar stuff here on earth.

 

So, who's going to go around and give people the wedgies.

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