Mav Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Get real.lol win! so full of win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Don't make fun of him, mav XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralPloKoon Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I didnt even know there was other kinds of memory devices... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 so, what's your point?? the technology that goes into the Wii continues to be much cheaper than the $200 price tag that it carries. yet for some reason, it just gets called "good business" instead of gouging. spectacularly missing the pont. the wii has no rivals manufactured by competitors that do exactly the same thing yet sold at a fraction of the price. hard drive makers are a dime a dozen and i don't think many are anywhere near as expensive as those sold by MS. this is basically the very definition of anti-competitive business practice really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthParametric Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 hard drive makers are a dime a dozen and i don't think many are anywhere near as expensive as those sold by MS.MS buys a container load of laptop HDDs from Western Digital and puts them in a $5 plastic case. Then sells them for 3 times what the drive inside normally retails for - http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x/xbox360harddrive120GB/default.htm This update is about memory cards though. The official MS memory card is 512MB and has a RRP of US$29.95 - http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x/xbox360memoryunit512mb/default.htm The main target of the update is Datel and their unofficial MAX memory cards. They come in 2GB and 4GB versions for US$39.99 and US$49.99 respectively. Not hard to see why people would buy them in preference to the official MS memory card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediAthos Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 yup...also not hard to see what Microsoft would want them out of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 spectacularly missing the pont.i don't know about you, but i'm referring to the game industry as a whole. if you want to narrow it down to the specific sector of console accessories, then i'd be more than happy to oblige you with examples, both past and present, in which console manufacturers consistently charge more for their accessories than it costs to make them. otherwise, the only person that's missing the point is yourself.the wii has no rivals manufactured by competitors that do exactly the same thing yet sold at a fraction of the price.in english, please.hard drive makers are a dime a dozen and i don't think many are anywhere near as expensive as those sold by MS.but seeing that the Xbox 360 is Microsoft's creation, legally, they have control over what devices can communicate and connect with the console. if it's their desire to make it so that only their hardware works with the 360 console, then that's their prerogative since they legally have the right to do so. if you don't like it, then you only have two options: don't buy the darned thing, or call your senator and complain to him/her about the laws not being fair.this is basically the very definition of anti-competitive business practice reallytrue, but its the very nature of marketing in a capitalistic society. if you can make something that people want, then you'll make a good amount of money. however, you'll make a lot more money if you can sell optional items for that item that are exclusive to that item. that's the way it works, and if the prices are too high, well, then perhaps you shouldn't have considered that item in the first place. don't forget that the other part of capitalism is the consumer. you always have the choice to buy what you want to buy. complaining to everyone about something that you bought when you knew about a potential problem only speaks volumes about yourself and not about the thing you bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Another thing to consider is that Microsoft finds it very difficult to make money (for their video game division specifically) from hardware sales for the 360. The only way they end up making money is through software sales and Xbox Live. I know, as crazy as that sounds considering how cheaply hardware can be made, it took a long time for Microsoft to actually break even with their hardware for the first Xbox and with the 360 as well. Microsoft spends more than it makes, that was the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthParametric Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 The Wii is pretty much the only console that has ever launched at a price above cost. Hardware is always a loss leader. Companies generally only start to make a profit on console hardware after about 2-3 years. Software is where the money is. Even with the ludicrous margins MS put on peripherals, the vast majority of their Xbox earnings is in software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Nintendo has been the only company to ever release a console that has launched at a price that makes profit for the company. In fact, Nintendo has been doing that since the SNES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Accessability is not laziness. If you re-read the part of what you said that he quoted that I replied to it is indeed referring to a form of laziness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 XD Oh right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 XD Oh right. But you are right about the accessibility part, with a console just put in a disc and go to town on da couch with munchies you wouldn't dare eat near a keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cire992 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Hey my 360 just bricked! Again. This one only lasted 2 months. Yay for 58% failure rates. I'm sticking with PC from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Hey my 360 just bricked! Again. This one only lasted 2 months. Yay for 58% failure rates. I'm sticking with PC from now on. Some people are unlucky I guess lol. I held off getting a 360 for so long because I was so worried it'd RRoD on me.... but then I got my 360 elite and it's never given me any problems at all since day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I've been through 3 xbox360's, my first was a premium, lasted about 6 months... RROD, so I thought hell, I'll buy an Elite, that wont die... 2 months, RROD, so I ended buying an Arcade and using my Elite Hard drive, ok so far, but it has crashed a few times. It's Strange, xbox has done nothing but cost me money, yet I would NEVER consider getting a PS3 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Yeah, a lot of my friends have given up with the 360 for the same reasons but they did end up getting PS3s since they weren't really concerned about exclusive titles and can't be bothered with PC gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 ^^^^ i've owned 2 360's. the first was a secondhand unit that i bought from a friend who managed to win it in a drawing from Mountain Dew (i think it was that every 10 minutes thing). anyways, he had already owned it for almost 2 years before he sold it to me, and it ended up giving me an E74 death after 3 months. i got a new one about 6-7 months later, and its been going fine ever since. i've had that one for well over a year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urluckyday Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Idk after about 3 RROD I'd start thinking it was something that I was doing wrong. Maybe wrong placement in an entertainment center or something or just keeping it on/playing it too long... I've had mine for a year and a half and never had any problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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