Psionic Jedi Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Has anyone ever heard the word "Padawan" come up in the original Trilogy??? I always thought the "lesser Jedi in training" was called an Apprentice... I even noted the rank in JK1, you were called a Jedi APPRENTICE not a Padawan. And now in the Prequels everyone's calling everyone else a Padawan learner, I keep wondering where that word came from. Maybe it's something GL thought up at breakfast: you know how writers sometimes think up arbitrary words to string together and form a name for something... Also, MIDICHLORIANS (sp?) sounds like a cross between Mitochondria and Chloroplast Maybe the study of Midichlorians and the tradition of calling your apprentices "Padawans" were forgotten after the clone wars, but surely Obi Wan would remember his days as a "Padawan"? Or Maybe I'm thinking too hard and should believe everything in SW is consistent and all will be explained in the third of the prequels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by Psionic Jedi Has anyone ever heard the word "Padawan" come up in the original Trilogy??? Excellent question......I think your answer is this second part of your quote. And no, I don't think it is in the OT. Maybe the study of Midichlorians and the tradition of calling your apprentices "Padawans" were forgotten after the clone wars, but surely Obi Wan would remember his days as a "Padawan"? You are also right, he would not forget his days as a padawan, I think with the Jedi Order being no more, there was no need to be so official.......the jedi were just trying to regroup and live again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 that and his time with luke wasnt very long, much to short to tell him how to be a jedi, much less the whole workings of the old republic's jedi order. when luke was with yoda, yoda was trying to teach him enough force use to keep himself alive so there was just no time to go through all the formal ranks and whatnot from the olden times... it just wasnt high enough on the importance scale... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 yes, and with the new republic, they all forgot the old times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI OUTCAST Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by Psionic Jedi Has anyone ever heard the word "Padawan" come up in the original Trilogy??? I always thought the "lesser Jedi in training" was called an Apprentice... I even noted the rank in JK1, you were called a Jedi APPRENTICE not a Padawan. And now in the Prequels everyone's calling everyone else a Padawan learner, I keep wondering where that word came from. Maybe it's something GL thought up at breakfast: you know how writers sometimes think up arbitrary words to string together and form a name for something... Also, MIDICHLORIANS (sp?) sounds like a cross between Mitochondria and Chloroplast Maybe the study of Midichlorians and the tradition of calling your apprentices "Padawans" were forgotten after the clone wars, but surely Obi Wan would remember his days as a "Padawan"? Or Maybe I'm thinking too hard and should believe everything in SW is consistent and all will be explained in the third of the prequels yeah it came up in the original Trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Midichlorians are those things you put in your swimming pool to keep the algea down...pft, everybody knows that sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by JEDI OUTCAST yeah it came up in the original Trilogy. Which movie and who used the term? Details please, not bantha fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI OUTCAST Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 i dont know still need to tape the other 2 then i will get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by acdcfanbill that and his time with luke wasnt very long, much to short to tell him how to be a jedi, much less the whole workings of the old republic's jedi order. when luke was with yoda, yoda was trying to teach him enough force use to keep himself alive so there was just no time to go through all the formal ranks and whatnot from the olden times... it just wasnt high enough on the importance scale... I don't remember Obi Wan even saying "apprentice" in the OT... he used the term "pupil" in ANH - "... a young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil..." Besides, GL didn't think to use the term Padawan until Episode 1 - at that time the Jedi order was in full swing and everything was very formal and correct; and the term was used to show that. In the time of the OT, the Jedi's existence had been wiped from the universe. Forget about all that EU crap where all these other Jedi also escaped the purge (EU pisses me off - most of it just isn't consistent with the movies, and people seem way out of character). So if the Jedi were wiped out, Luke wouldn't be familiar with the term Padawan, so why would Obi Wan use a term that Luke wouldn't understand? As a side note, Yoda did say "apprentice." But it seems to me that GL uses apprentice when refering to the Dark side. Vader says it, Emperor says it, Sidious says it... seems to make sense to me, anyway. -Anakin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Actually, Padawan is a very old thing in the evolution of Star Wars. The term, used to describe Jedi-in-training, dates all the way back to the first drafts of Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Starkiller. You can find, I believe, the second draft of Star Wars here: S T A R K I L L E R - The Jedi Bendu Script Site. Lucas probably just couldn't find a good place to insert it into the OT, and so, when he had time to really explore the classic Jedi Order in the Prequels, he decided to revive the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 woa, i never saw the early script. i'm going to read them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckcsaber Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 The old scripts are wierd. R2 and C3p0 reversed roles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Thanks for the link, Jedi_Monk! Very informative. -Anakin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arreat Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 well based on my experience of playing jk2 online i beleive its meant as NOOB many have said get away paddie which is the most famous quote i hear online(many thinking they're all superior and all not until i show them what im truly made of:mob: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandoFett1842 Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Padawan Its probaby some Smauri/Ninja/Knight term that George Lucas didnt know about in the orginal Trilogy, i will look up Padawan or close in a JApanize dicionaty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Jedi Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Originally posted by JandoFett1842 i will look up Padawan or close in a JApanize dicionaty. Erm... I think you're in desparate need of an ENGLISH dictionary. J/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Originally posted by JEDI OUTCAST i dont know still need to tape the other 2 then i will get back to you. Right... In other words you have no clue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 i have a feeling that lucas is constantly inventing things to add to the SW universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima kake Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Wow great link Monk thanx. I never saw this one before. And the lucas interview is realy great. Again thanx:thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Jedi Monk, your knowledge of the Star Wars Universe never ceases to amaze me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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