The Seeker Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Full story here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 i so hope that that is the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Me too. I'm sick of hearing about him on the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 KWEEL! HMMM, black guy (I am not a racist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt_Dancer Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Its entirely possible that its these two guys. Jury isn't in yet though. Innocent until proven guilty. Thats our way.... or whatever. Not like we stick to that. Seems as soon as someone is picked up we as a country ALWAYS write them off as guilty stright away. Maybe this should go in the "why usa is f'ed up" thread. On another topic.... news. Bah! They don't know anything yet either... they are just reporting like they do. Wait and see what happens and even then... gather your news from as many sources as possible and draw your own conclusions. Everyone has motives and submotives for what they do. Even reporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatalStrike Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 They found a Bushmaster .223, please note that all the slaying were done with a .223 caliber rifle. They found a Scope and a Tripod. They found the car had a hole in the back which would allow you to shoot from inside the car. If it isn't him I would be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomHelix Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 well, judging by the fact that this guy has eluded SWAT, CIA, FBI, and the police, and he leaves notes to cops and is obviously confident he wont get caught soon, he must be very good, and there is a chance these guys aren't responsible. besides, all of the snipings were done from above, not from ground level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatalStrike Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Originally posted by PhantomHelix all of the snipings were done from above, not from ground level... Not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Originally posted by PhantomHelix besides, all of the snipings were done from above, not from ground level... what? like from a plane?:/ don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 I told you, it was a military sniper guy who got nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fife Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Without actually jumping to conclusions, it's difficult to have a "let's just wait n' see" outlook. In all reality, these two are the ones responsible. There are too many clues and pieces that fit together in a cohesive "these are definitely the guys" puzzle. Supposedly, a man was murdered in Alabama back in September. A letter was found in the vicinity of the body which contained the fingerprints of John "Mohammed" Malvo who was arrested this morning. HE was the one who told police to check into a murder in Alabama!! My Spidey sense tells me that they have their men. Now it'll be interesting to see how things unfold. I, admittedly, was taken aback when I learned that the suspects were African-American. Nobody called that one. "All of the snipings were done from above."??? Where did you hear that?? Maybe from a high point of ground, but not from a chopper or airplane. And none of the targets looked as if they were in proximity to bell or water towers or whatnot. (I think you've seen 'Saving Private Ryan' too many times) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 I hope they caught the right guy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrylic Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Me too, and I hope all of us that live in the USA here dont start dying, becauses that would be really sad if our whole nation got wiped out...do you know what kind of affect that would have on the whole world o_O.....plus how many people would die????????? God, I dont wanna die, Im only 13, I'm too young to die :'-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Originally posted by AcrylicGuitar Me too, and I hope all of us that live in the USA here dont start dying, becauses that would be really sad if our whole nation got wiped out...do you know what kind of affect that would have on the whole world o_O.....plus how many people would die????????? God, I dont wanna die, Im only 13, I'm too young to die :'-( Dont worry, embrace death as you do life. For it tis another adventure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Originally posted by AcrylicGuitar Me too, and I hope all of us that live in the USA here dont start dying, becauses that would be really sad if our whole nation got wiped out...do you know what kind of affect that would have on the whole world o_O.....plus how many people would die????????? God, I dont wanna die, Im only 13, I'm too young to die :'-( ....Why would everyone in the USA just start dying? Is there a strange epidemic that I am unaware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Jedi Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 I hope those are the guys. I'm sick of hearing about dead people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Originally posted by Boba Fife A letter was found in the vicinity of the body which contained the fingerprints of John "Mohammed" Malvo who was arrested this morning. HE was the one who told police to check into a murder in Alabama!! Actually, his name is John Lee Malvo. You are getting the juvenile mixed up with the actual serial killer, John Allen Muhammed aka Muhammed Williams. And I dont think this Muhammed Williams is a sniper at all. Sure he received the highest marks for effective use with an m-16, which is the military model of the Bushmaster. No real sniper in their right mind would use a semi-automatic rifle, even when shot in single shot. A real sniper also wouldn't be within 500 yrds of the victim, in which case, Williams was within 150 yards. I remember when the spree first got word about calling it a sniper spree, one of the news channels interviewed a real sniper, and he said that most likely the "sniper" probably wasn't even in the military, and if so, he wasn't trained as a sniper. Trained snipers are taught and trained to pick their targets off from such a great a distance, like 1,000 yrds, even when aiming for the head, which is another thing. Snipers always shoot to kill. Single shot to the head. Williams rarely killed someone by shooting them in the head. Almost all his shots were to the abdomen area. What I loved most about the interview with the sniper was that he said that any legitimate sniper would love to put a bullet between his eyes. So personally, I dont think we should even call Williams a sniper. A more fitting term would be serial killer, an ex-military gone mad. A gunmen. He is anything but a sniper, and he is nothing more than guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Excuse my language, but this sniper was a dumbass. He steals a credit card a month or more before he starts this crap, then he calls the cops and asks them to wire $10 million to it. WTF! "Thank you for shopping Sears, how are you going to pay for all of this?" "Oh, um.......Here's my credit card." *swipes* *Sears Empolye gets wierd look on face* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fife Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Originally posted by Andy867 And I dont think this Muhammed Williams is a sniper at all. From Webster's Dictionary: Sniper: 1. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place. 2. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place. While his actions may upset actual trained snipers be they police or military, he is a sniper. Whether or not a "real" sniper would be within 500 yds of their target is an issue of opinion rather than fact. A sniper will take the shot from wherever the most opportune position presents itself. There is no "Code of the Sniper". Yes. This man is a serial killer. No one disputes that, but let's not bring semantics into the discussion. His method of killing was to shoot at other people from a concealed place. (see above) Hopefully, the killing is over. We have yet to see. Thank you for correcting my misinformation of the names of the two men as I mistakenly conjoined the names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacco Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Man, I was betting it would be a white guy. And I was surprised it was a black. I heard this all day on the radio. Usually blacks don't do these kind of crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 At least one person form every single race has done at least one act of crime thinkable, so let's not go saying "White guys do this" and "black people do that" and "Korean people so this" and "Canadians do that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Originally posted by Chewbacco Man, I was betting it would be a white guy. And I was surprised it was a black. I heard this all day on the radio. Usually blacks don't do these kind of crimes. did you ever heard of drive bys. one of the leading causes of murders in the U.S. good think i don't live in Cali. WEST SIDE!!!! do you guys think this issue is link to the al quaida since one of them was muslim?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Being a muslim doesn't mean you're a terrorist. I am sure many muslims watch the news, and see all this killing that is for "supporting" their religion, and they say something along the lines of: "Man, those guys are stupid!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomHelix Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 to k_star: most (i thought it was all) were done from ROOFTOPS. to ET: yeah, there is an epidemic. its called stupidity. thats why they made the darwin awards: to remember those killed by this awful epidemic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 All I can say is, thank God that this is finally over. And my heart goes out to all the families and friends of the victims:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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