leXX Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 Look at these two pictures from TPM and AOTC. The column behind Mace has mysteriously had a big bit added to it! It even looks like they have just added Obi and Anakin to the scene because the council members are sitting exactly the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 the first pic looks mirrored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 Maybe they just added stuff on since the first image? Jedi's are allowed to do a bit of D.I.Y, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted January 11, 2003 Author Share Posted January 11, 2003 Then how do you explain them sitting exactly the same way in both pictures. I think it is a bit of corner cutting by ILM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tie Guy Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 They are not the same in both pictures. Look very closely at Yoda's robe. You can see it folds over much lower on his shoulder in the Eps I pic. I think they are supposed to be sitting axactly the same way. I mean, what would the point be of artificially making that shot when they'd stilll have to actually do all of it for the all of other shots? And as for the pillar, maybe they probably just made some renovations, it's been ten years. Or maybe Coruscant passed new building safety regulations and they were forced to put the pillar in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiMP RABBiT Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 Tie guys right, even Jedi temples can be altered by the iron fist of the law. PS. like the metaphor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 it has been ten years...the same seats are there because, well, why change seats? they're jedi, they don't care where they sit. The pillar's probably some safety thing, or maybe it's as a repair to some terrorist attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Looks like the same shot, except that the second one has been digitally graded to look a lot lighter - if anyone has the 4 or 5 DVD pack of LOTR, then you should've seen this...... It can look a little different, due to the different lighting, butt that is definitely some high quality blue screen work by Hayden and Ewan.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon_sleeper Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Firstly, it's very unlikely that you're right. It's very cool that you'd be so observant to notice something like that, but it would in all likelihood have been more expensive for them to have done that, since they already had the sets and the actors there to film it w/out the added effort involved in meshing the two. Secondly--and I mean this in the most respectful way possible--let's assume you were right. Would that really qualify as a "Big Mistake." A. It wouldn't have been a mistake. and B. I wouldn't consider it big, by any stretch of the imagination. But keep watching those movies. With a keen eye like that, you're sure to notice some stuff that we won't! Kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 its not really a mistake leXX, maybe it was meant to be like that...there are only so many mistakes in SW that it takes a perfectionist(sp, arghh) to pick them all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettingShadow Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Originally posted by Tie Guy They are not the same in both pictures. Look very closely at Yoda's robe. You can see it folds over much lower on his shoulder in the Eps I pic. I think they are supposed to be sitting axactly the same way. I mean, what would the point be of artificially making that shot when they'd stilll have to actually do all of it for the all of other shots? Yep true, very true... But, in Ep.II they made Yoda completly animated, in Ep.I, there was an actor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiMP RABBiT Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Originally posted by Squater they made Yoda completly animated, in Ep.I, there was an actor... What a thing to put on your resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 How is it a mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Halcyon Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 See the light in Windu's seat, it comes from a differetn focus. And Mundi's bald is shiny in AOC. ANd i think all jedi have their seat-pose (plo koon always has his fingers crossed for example) Plus we can see shots of the council with different members from AOC. Anyway with the marvelous technology of ILM all can ba possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted January 14, 2003 Author Share Posted January 14, 2003 *reads all the post's* I give up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 It's a worry that somehow they see that as being different!!! All I can say is same shot, different lighting treatment by ILM digitally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentSmith Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Maybe ILM decided to change the digital backgroud design? I think most of the background and pilars were digitally added, so maybe they just changed the design for Episode III? Who knows? With so much digital frames and shots I gather it'd be easy to overlook something here and there. Good observation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiMP RABBiT Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 I find their similarity quite amazing. I didnt think the continuity would be so accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Halcyon Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 We should have to see the conversation. In that pic we can see the same postures, but maybe the dialogue movements are different. That is the point, i think. As i said, surely they have default posses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teutonicknight Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Somewhere on the Ep2 DVD, an ILM guy said that some Jedi Temple shots were recylced/added digitally because they found it to be such a hassel to dress up 10 people for one scene where those 10 people never said a line. It's either in the Audio commetary or the Features on the 2nd DVD, not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted January 16, 2003 Author Share Posted January 16, 2003 That's right, they have admitted that they have reused certain scenes. An example is that Adi Gallia is not supposed to be in AOTC but a few ppl spoted her and wondered why there was no mention of her on the official site in the AOTC section. They updated the site to include her after it was pointed out. Click Here. It is obvious to me that those two pictures are the same scene re-cycled. They have digitally put Obi and Ani onto an old ep1 scene. The pillar has been updated for whatever reason (regeneration?) and Yoda has been changed because he does most of the dialogue in that scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Halcyon Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 And mace windu also speaks..but that could be a close up... I'll have to check. Anyways, it is not a mistake after all.... and very good made, I must point out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Maybe i'm goofy, or maybe i'm Groovy. But Yoda looks much different in the second pic. You are probably right, that scene is probably one of the more difficult ones with the background traffic and the way the light shines in, and what not. But who says you could not be sitting in the exact same position 10 years later. I sit at my computer the exact same postion every single day, so I fail to see how this could be a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted January 18, 2003 Author Share Posted January 18, 2003 It is a mistake because I noticed they re-used a scene and noone was supposed to notice. It is obvious to anyone with a bit of common sense that those two pictures are one in the same with a bit of tinkering. You lot believe whatever you want to believe, but like I said, they have already admitted they re-used scenes from ep1 in ep2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 You can more easily see what has been changed in this gif I made. Different Yoda, different Mace, different collumns, different window view and of course, different people standing on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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