RpTheHotrod Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Originally posted by MydnightPsion thats utter nonsense! are you saying that there is no good reason for me to get married because me and my gf don't follow the bible? i find that offensive. thats just a nice way of saying that humans are devoid of feelings UNLESS they're Christians. of course, only a Christian would say that...*leaves it alone before he gets in trouble* I'm saying...in this day, there is no actual reason to get married, unless you follow the Bible. Yes you CAN get married, and yes it's a GOOD thing to get married (it is a contract, promising eachother's love)....but in this day, there isn't really a reason to get married. People live with eachother all the time never even thinknig about marriage. Why? It costs money, and they are afraid to have a commitment. Now, do I think it's wrong living with eachother without benig married? Yes...but again, I'm saying in these days, unless you follow the Bible, there isn't a reason to get married anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 *finally stops laughing from Muniks community service idea* But seriously... marriage has evolved beyond a christian tradition to something more symbolic, in which a man and a woman stop on the road of life to vow to each other to always be together to the very end, under all circumstances. And then they begin traveling down the road again, together. Marriage is that point at which their journeys through life merge and become one. At least, in my eyes... I have misgivings about religion. But I hold marriage very, very highly, and I consider it sacred. Anyone who violates marriage, in any way, earns my instant disrespect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Originally posted by lukeskywalker1 you have to find the right girl, or your marrage will get screwed up, its like this....i couldnt go out with a non-believer, because we would be fighting all the time, just because of my christian views, and her views (whatever they may be). and right now for me it isnt worth havng sex, im 14, no realtionship is going to work out, it would only last a year at the most, why have sex with someone if u know your going to break up with them eventually. it happens to just about everyone. Having differing religions shouldn't be a barrier to a relationship. I have a friend who's mother is Catholic and his father is Muslim, two VERY different religions, and they have a wonderful relationship, it just requires understanding and acceptance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod I'm saying...in this day, there is no actual reason to get married, unless you follow the Bible. reason: you love that person with your whole being reason: you want to have children with this person reason: you want to wake up every morning to that persons face reason: you want to grow old with that person reason: you cant think of being with any other person ever again 5 good reasons having nothing to do with that book you put all your stock into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 yes, and that is all possible and frequently done without marriage again today, the only real reason to get married is if you follow the Bible. All this stuff about love/sex/true love/caring/kids/loving together/etc... I hear very often from people who wouldn't get married. To them, livnig together is all that matters...and marriage is just something that costs money, and they are afraid to give a commitment. I'm not saying I agree with them. I fully believe you should get married...even before sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munik Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Gotta get married if you don't want to have bastard children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTeddyPaul Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 The tax break alone is worth getting married. It costs to be single. WTF is up with that America? (this only counts if you are American at least that I know of) BigTeddyPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Originally posted by BigTeddyPaul The tax break alone is worth getting married.It costs to be single. WTF is up with that America? (this only counts if you are American at least that I know of) Nah. Like I said, it's got a lot to do with legal issues than anything else for most couples in Europe. But seriously... marriage has evolved beyond a christian tradition to something more symbolic [...] today, the only real reason to get married is if you follow the Bible. So marriage was invented with Christianity? There's no such thing as a muslim/viking/buddhist/tribal/jewish marriage? Do I have permission to laugh my butt off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Yeah, I know, I thought of that after I posted. I really only said that because most people were referring to it as a christian tradition. Affirmative Cap'n. Understood. Over and out. -C'jais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Originally posted by C'jais Nah. Like I said, it's got a lot to do with legal issues than anything else for most couples in Europe. So marriage was invented with Christianity? There's no such thing as a muslim/viking/buddhist/tribal/jewish marriage? Do I have permission to laugh my butt off? Permission granted:D at the cost of being condemned to Hell. I think I'm getting what Rp said. Married by the church unless you follow the bible is bad, yes. Thats why they came up with the great idea of making the option that a couple can be married by that state...or is that wrong and heathenistic too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 I'm pretty much talking about marriage in general. Not tax breaks, etc... and I'm not talking about Christianity being the "foundation" to marriage...didn't say that either. I've met so many people just living with eachother, and I mean they act JUST like they were married, it's almost funny, heh... but to them "Why get married? Its just some love contact signed on paper. We already know we love eachother" Shadow Templar said "*shrugs noncomittically* Just wanting to say that "marriage" is an artificial thing. If you live in a paperless relationship that you know is going to last, then you are, de facto, man and wife, IMO. "Then why not marry, if you love each other?" I hear you cry. Well, quite simply there can be a lot of reasons not to. Loads of legal stuff can get extremely complicated (mainly if you wish to keep seperate economies for some reason). Of course there is also the fully understandable reason that you do not support Christianity, and therefore doesn't wish to legitimize it by being wedded. We have Freedom of Thought after all, which means that you don't have to abide by such silly, artificial institutions as marriage." Now, I'm ALL for marriage, believe me. I'm just saying, people shove out marriage these days because they think there is no reason to get married, that "its more trouble than it's worth". Unless you're in it for benefits (tax breaks), most people I've met say they are just going to live together, because they know they love eachother already. NOw, what I said about following the Bible (that's a big "religion", if you will, in America, so I stated that one), it says to get married. That's a reason to get married. Back then, you proved your love by marriage, today, you prove it by...well, hard to say these days, lol. Again, I believe you SHOULD get married, and that's my plan as well. It's just today, that's one of the largest views on marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 You have to take into consideration the fact that people get married all the time nowadays; peope as young as 16 are planning to get married in one or two years (I know two couples at my school who are planning this). I think that a lot of people in a serious relationship feel intimidated by the prospect of marriage, but still ultimately do it because they feel they have to. A lot of people will get married, without knowing if they love each other or not. That's why there are such a large number of divorces; people throw themselves into it because of social expectations. My personal view of marriage is a varied one. Where I feel that it is a good and decent way to 'bind' the love of two people, and publically secures their permanent relationship status, it can often lead to messy break-ups. Also I agree with the statement that if two people know they are in love, why sign a piece of paper to prove it? People often marry nowadays to conform to expectations set by their society. To some extent, I think marriage is irrelevant, and shouldn't be needed in this day and age. Oh, and MydnightPsion, please shorten your sig, as it is causing scrolling problems. Thank you:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTemplar Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 Originally posted by Darklighter Oh, and MydnightPsion, please shorten your sig, as it is causing scrolling problems. Thank you:) Yeah, that's right (BTW: You might want to size=1 it). Ok, I know that I'm getting into the same kind of problem, but there are some responses that I get tired of repeating, so I just write [*points to sig*]. Shock, would you consider divorce a violation of marriage? Otherwise it's just plain cheating that you refer to, which I frown upon no matter your legal/religious status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 Originally posted by Luc Solar Imho: Sex is fun period i agree. anyways i dont see much of a big deal in virginity. i mean theres always a first but why make a big deal out of this its like making a big deal out of your first kiss or heh even your first pet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 Originally posted by lukeskywalker1 if i have sex with a girl now, and we break up, it will be like i was having sex with some other guys wife, i wouldnt like that, so ill wait. wtf? how is it like having sex with another guys wife? i recently broke up with my gf but we are still good friends. i had sex with her and i dont regret it. i see no point in "saving" yourself until marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTeddyPaul Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 Umm because odds are she will get married and have sex with her husband. Since he originally had sex with her it would be like sleeping with another man's wife. Reminds me of a skit where this one guy slept with this one girl and he was happy. Then he goes on a game show where you show off who you have slept with. He then smiles and says, "Amy." The announcer then says, "Thats not all. Come on Out." A guy named Anthony steps out and the origianly guy screams, "I NEVER SLEPT WITH HIM!" The announcer states that he hadn't but Amy had. Along with three other guy. {Enter 3 other guys}. And then it goes on from there because they each slept with X many women and so on and so forth. The skit had to deal with how you can never be sure if someone has a sexual disease or not just because they slept with one other person. BigTeddyPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifo_Dyas_03 Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 My advice to anyone worrying about virginity is: Don't! At the age you normally worry about it, there are far more important things to be doing, looking after your future being one of them! (Sorry if I sound like a parent - I hope to be a good one one day!) I'm 20 and still a virgin. I'm not religious, not repulsive in any way, not a recluse, and perfectly normal! For good company I have some great friends, had (until about a month ago) a girlfriend, who incidentally I'm still friends with now, and my family (A seriously undervalued asset by many in our generation). For sexual fun, there is an endless supply of porn of all varieties out there (I must confess I'm something of a perv... ok... a total perv! ). As far as I am concerned, actual sexual intercourse should be something shared between two people who care very much about one another and who want to take their intimacy to the next level, not something that one should indulge in casually (I have many friends who do or have had casual sex who would back me up on that point), and not something that is a finish line at the end of a metaphorical race! Just my two pence worth (or cents... or whatever currency you put into the phrase). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 i kept my virginity till i was 17, dunno why...but whey i had sex...it honestly wasnt all hyped up to what i though it would be simply because it was casual. Sex becomes something more when you are with somebody you truly love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Yup.... I wouldn't mind dating/marrying a virgin. If you were screwing someone who wasn't a virgin, it would also kinda be like doing another guy.... *shudders* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Originally posted by ZBomber If you were screwing someone who wasn't a virgin, it would also kinda be like doing another guy.... *shudders* oh come on, thats ridicilous. i would almost perfer to nail a woman who has had sex no more than twice in the past. Its no fun to break in a virgin, trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Originally posted by XERXES i kept my virginity till i was 17, dunno why...but whey i had sex...it honestly wasnt all hyped up to what i though it would be simply because it was casual. Sex becomes something more when you are with somebody you truly love. same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 Originally posted by XERXES oh come on, thats ridicilous. i would almost perfer to nail a woman who has had sex no more than twice in the past. Its no fun to break in a virgin, trust me. Well if you think about it..... Anyway, wouldn't you want to lose your virginity to the person you want to spend the rest of your life with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 Originally posted by ZBomber Well if you think about it..... Anyway, wouldn't you want to lose your virginity to the person you want to spend the rest of your life with? I thought about that too, and looking back now, I wish it did happen that way. I love the girl I am with now, but neither one of us knows what will happen in the future, which kind of makes us trust each other better in a wierd kind of way. I wish I would have lost it to her instead. The girl I lost my virginity too is dead. We broke up and she got back into the drugs and a year later, I read in the front page of our paper that her and her new boyfriend shot each other in a car. Yes... I wish I would have saved myself for somebody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Solar Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 Wow. Now that was inappropriate. You're really trying to get banned aren't you? I have a hard time understanding why...but who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 And you say you've read the rules? I was willing to let it go in that other thread you pointlessly made so I have. But just accusing people of actions of an obscene nature is wrong. Please dont burp over people, if its all a joke like this *Hits InsaneSith with stick* then fine, but please try and make it so we know you are joking. Really Sorry to go off topic, I dont know why I'm here, Im 15. edit - I havent read the rules? Do I need to? lol, I think im safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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