Rumor Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 http://ravenforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Well, to be honest, we should have expected this. I mean, JA is putting even more control into the hands of the player, with a few more RPG-type elements, so there is likely to be an even wider audience for this kind of thing. I have absolutely no problem with people who want to roleplay - except when they try to shove it down everyone's throats on FFA servers. If you want to play by a different set of rules, then all I ask is that they confine it to their own servers - which should be clearly marked as such. I actually managed to have a half-decent time online today - didn't get the usual bucketload of connection interrupts, and I found a server where everyone was just playing FFA...you know...properly. A few saber fights, then you whip out any kind of gun and go blasting, plant some mines, use a bit of the Force...and not a single person complained. In fact, no one even said anything, except for me. It was a damned good blast for a change. The only problem was finding a server where people were using guns - most of them seem to be saber only for some reason, or locked. It's a crying shame, IMHO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 most of the gunning clans have quit playing jk2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Originally posted by Rumor most of the gunning clans have quit playing jk2 Then Raven definitely need to take steps to fix that. As I've said in other threads, they need to come up with specific MP modes to keep the RP'ers happy, so the rest of us can get on with fraggin' and baggin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedo626 Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 I don't have a problem with people bowing in duel servers, but in FFA the taunt is the initiation of a duel so bowing after that is stupid. what's really annoying is when you're dueling some guy and he turns his saber off in the middle of the fight and says "how much life do you have?" omg! I hate that. I just DFA him:D . so my point is, if people want to play with all their little pansy rules, good for them. but watch out for me, cause I don't stop when you turn off you're blade:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Ultimately, so matter what features a game has, whether it does things well or poorly, there will always be people who are *******s and demand that people all adhere to their rules and play the way they want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3rr0r Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Originally posted by StormHammer Then Raven definitely need to take steps to fix that. if there was a firearms selection system like in sof2 (pick your weapons, can't hold too many), gunning would be much more enjoyable... oh, and if the bolts didn't take a minute to reach their target... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Originally posted by t3rr0r if there was a firearms selection system like in sof2 (pick your weapons, can't hold too many), gunning would be much more enjoyable... oh, and if the bolts didn't take a minute to reach their target... I totally agree with you. Item number 1000000 on Raven's to-do list, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 If you think Raven staffs' facial expressions look like this after reading posts like that: Then you are gravely mistaken. They look something more like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Originally posted by t3rr0r oh, and if the bolts didn't take a minute to reach their target... Absolutely. Especially those rockets. You can pretty much out-walk those things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted April 20, 2003 Author Share Posted April 20, 2003 Originally posted by Prime Absolutely. Especially those rockets. You can pretty much out-walk those things... if they went any faster you would not be able to defend against them very well. esp with homing rockets they go faster as they approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iblis Reborn Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Originally posted by Prime Absolutely. Especially those rockets. You can pretty much out-walk those things... heh yeah i always love pushing those away i think they put them that way for when its used up close but when your far away it does seem to take a week for them to reach their targets and i did find the lasers to be a bit slow but it was nothing major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 I think a cool option is the ability to allow the player to control the rocket's flight. Something like the sniper rifle bullet in Max Payne, but to a deeper degree. For example, you would find a place, fire a rocket, and then have the option of viewing from the perspective of the rocket. You could guide it, make it go up and down, fly in circles, etc. Any force powers used on the rocket (ie. Force Push, Pull, etc.) would affect the rocket much in the same way as Force powers affects players (ie. if Force pushed you move backward, Force pulled you move forwards, etc.). Dunno, just thought it would be a nice addition. IMHO, its little features and additions like these that will make a new game stand out from the tried and true past games of this genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Originally posted by wassup I think a cool option is the ability to allow the player to control the rocket's flight. Something like the sniper rifle bullet in Max Payne, but to a deeper degree. For example, you would find a place, fire a rocket, and then have the option of viewing from the perspective of the rocket. You could guide it, make it go up and down, fly in circles, etc. Any force powers used on the rocket (ie. Force Push, Pull, etc.) would affect the rocket much in the same way as Force powers affects players (ie. if Force pushed you move backward, Force pulled you move forwards, etc.). Dunno, just thought it would be a nice addition. IMHO, its little features and additions like these that will make a new game stand out from the tried and true past games of this genre. And while you're in rocket-view mode...someone is sticking a lightsaber through the back of your skull. I don't think that's a very good idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Perhaps the above system could include a proximity detector of some sort- when other players/bullets get close enough to you, rocket view stops. Of course, that sort of thing is very much like flying. Just imagine the "Rocket-Flyers"-a clan. There would be rulezz- NO SABERZZ!! ROCKETZZ ONLY!! And everyone would have to fly around using rocket mode to kill unless tey wanted to be kicked. :(:(:(:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Originally posted by boinga1 Just imagine the "Rocket-Flyers"-a clan. There would be rulezz- NO SABERZZ!! ROCKETZZ ONLY!! And everyone would have to fly around using rocket mode to kill unless tey wanted to be kicked. : ROFL That's so funny! Er...actually...it's not. I can just see that kind of thing happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 and you could have rocket races around the map... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Originally posted by StormHammer And while you're in rocket-view mode...someone is sticking a lightsaber through the back of your skull. I don't think that's a very good idea... Lol...true, buts thats the risk part of the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo4114 Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 So, basically a lighter powered UT redeemer? I think we've had enough UT weapons. How about something more STAR WARS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Bah. Bat Sabre Wars (Copyright) all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertogJan Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Wow it seems that every thread in this forums is turning into a 'making even more suggestions for JA that raven won't even consider'-thread But emotes are strange, only saw 1 or 2 servers where you could do /amspin or whatever... I usually don't see many RPGers and I use guns whenever I want to, it's very easy to play as a gunner in FFA, just blast them in their backs, woohoo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Originally posted by StormHammer And while you're in rocket-view mode...someone is sticking a lightsaber through the back of your skull. I don't think that's a very good idea... I agree. Plus, it is probably overdoing it for trying to add something new weapon-wise. The rocket launcher is pretty good the way it is. I just wish it would move a little faster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Blackrose Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 All we can do now is wait. We honestly do not know if all the suggestions are being taken into consideration by Raven, but if JA is going to fall down the same path as JKII... This could get brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted April 26, 2003 Share Posted April 26, 2003 Originally posted by Prime The rocket launcher is pretty good the way it is. I just wish it would move a little faster... Yes, the speed of a lot of projectiles does not seem fast enough, so they could all do with some adjustment. Originally posted by Rad Blackrose All we can do now is wait. We honestly do not know if all the suggestions are being taken into consideration by Raven, but if JA is going to fall down the same path as JKII... This could get brutal. I tend to agree with you. Raven have stated that they took on board a lot of feedback from JO, so I'm sure they've tried hard to give us all a better gaming experience this time around. The problem is that some gamers will never be satisfied unless the game plays exactly the way they want...and I can very much see another scenario where people start making polls and discussion threads to get X, Y and Z changed because they think they're lame. I can only hope that this time Raven will not try to fix everything to please everyone. Changing gameplay dynamics instead of simply patching bugs only serves to divide gaming communities, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 26, 2003 Share Posted April 26, 2003 Originally posted by Rad Blackrose All we can do now is wait. We honestly do not know if all the suggestions are being taken into consideration by Raven, but if JA is going to fall down the same path as JKII... This could get brutal. I think Raven is pretty good for listening to feedback, so I expect a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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