RpTheHotrod Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 I stood there on the hill, Watching the man on the cross, It overwhelmed me with a chill, It was as if I felt a loss, The man of innocence and mercy, An unguilty man charged for a crime, A man who was dying for me, I had to speak, it was time. I yelled, "Who put this man on this cross?" "Who put the nails in His feet and hands?" "For us to gain from his loss" "Come! Face me like a man!" The crowd around me mocked me, "Oh God, I don't understand..." I then turned around and looked down, and saw the hammer...in my hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 I may not fall in sync with the religion, but I must say, that was a nice poem. I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Very meaningful, and very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Very nice poem, Rp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Here is my poem, I watched him in the street, Eyes following his feet, Matching his speed, He soon stopped to feed, He looked up to the sky, And knew that he would die, Who are you he asked me, But before I could answer he turned to flee, There was a thunderous Bang! I'm Lost, The Hitman. Bwa ha ha, I know its crap, I do have a decent poem though, its about near death if you want me to post it just ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 RP, that is great:thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 A very poignant poem, Rp. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 here's another one: One fine day in the middle of the night two dead men went out to fight, they stood back to back and faced eachother, took out thier swords and shot eachother, the deaf policeman heard thier crys and went and shot those two dead boys. Now if you don't belive all this true ask the blind man he saw it two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 What exactly do your guy's poem have to do with Rp's? Please, don't ruin this thread. BTW, Nice Poem, RP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 That was a WONDERFUL poem RP...wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Nice Poem Rp. And Z, I didn't mean to ruin it, I made that poem on the spur of the moment because I was bored, its not mean't to be good or anything, its a joke. I can't explain for Seph though. Keep it up Rp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkiTzoGuy Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Well spoken, That was a good poem, a lot of people need to know what the good lord did for us. Anyway that was a great poem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 I guess its a nice poem...if your a Christian. To me it seems like a shameless pop for followers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 good and srry:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munik Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod "Who put the nails in His feet and hands?" The nails don't go in the hands, but in the forearm a few inches before the wrist, between the ulna and the radius. If they did put them through your hands they would rip out between your fingers and you would fall. If nailed properly the ripping would stop at the wristbones which would then support you. It's a common misconception about crucifixion. There's rhyme and reason to the nails, rope would work as well but nails just add that little extra kick in the nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted April 22, 2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2003 dude...I already know that. Physically impossible to be in the palm. Would have shreaded his hand from the weight. It's a poem for crying out loud I yelled, "Who put the nails in His feet and in the forearm a few inches before the wrist, between the ulna and the radius?" I already know the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkiTzoGuy Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 hey, hey ,hey! lets not be corrupted. (sounded cool) Its his poem!. but thank you for the extra facts and details there buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod dude...I already know that. Physically impossible to be in the palm. Would have shreaded his hand from the weight. It's a poem for crying out loud I yelled, "Who put the nails in His feet and in the forearm a few inches before the wrist, between the ulna and the radius?" I already know the facts. If you already know the facts, then you would also know that with crucifixion, they also placed a wedge underneath their feet, to support their weight and make the suffering last longer, so they can place the nails wherever they like, since most of the weight bearing is done on the feet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Nice poem, Rp! But if you absolutely want to know, it was suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munik Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Originally posted by BCanr2d2 If you already know the facts, then you would also know that with crucifixion, they also placed a wedge underneath their feet, to support their weight and make the suffering last longer, so they can place the nails wherever they like, since most of the weight bearing is done on the feet.... The wedge you speak of is called a suppedaneum, and was used as an anchor when nailing the feet so to fix them to the cross. But it was rarely used, and used after the time of christ. To prolong the suffering of the crucified a sedile was used, which is a horizontal piece of wood located midway down the cross. It was used as a seat or a saddle. Most of the weight bearing was done by the arms or the legs, not the legs alone. As I said earlier, the nails are placed in the forearm for a reason, as that is a strategic place for them to produce the maximum amount of pain considering the design and purpose of crucifixion. In Rp's defense, jesus even indicated that he was nailed through the hands, even though no crucifixion was done as such, and even the shroud of turin indicates they were in the forearms. But who's to argue with jesus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted April 22, 2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2003 guys..it's a poem. I KNOW the facts. The nails were driven just below the wristbone. Believe me, my father is a pastor, and I've gone through EXTENSIVE studies on the Bible. Stop trying to turn this into a debate. If you know so much about these facts, what color was the sky before the flood, and how many layers of oxygen were there? (and yes I know the answer) Also, eve's name before she had children was adam. The Bible says that He called THEIR name adam, in the day they were created. Also in Psalms, a not to commonly known Name of God is "Jah", but the J is silent, so it's more like a harsh "ah" quick sound....you have to give your own life (breath) just to pronounce His name properly. Also, 3 dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, also hinting towards a possible fourth. What surrounded the Earth before the flood, and where did all the water come from, seeing there was no floods or anything before the flood. (Possibly no rain either?) Why did the life of several hundred years drop down to roughly 100 and now to 70ish today? yes I know all of the answers to all of these...but... that's not the point of this post. The point of this post is.... a poem thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munik Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Crucifixion was a real part of history. I don't think I could possibly care less about the imagined facts from an ancient piece of fiction. I am past the poem. I appreciate your attempt to tell me to stop discussing, but I like to think that I can do things without your permission. Originally posted by RpTheHotrod If you know so much about these facts Just 'cause you make something up in no way makes it a fact. Is that why you asked all those questions? So you can get a hard on by telling me to stop debating when I reply to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largo-LaGrande Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 all this about putting nails into *cough* in the forearm a few inches before the wrist, between the ulna and the radius is making my hands fell all funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Stop trying to turn this into a debate. If you know so much about these facts, what color was the sky before the flood, and how many layers of oxygen were there? (and yes I know the answer) The water and oxygen pressure was high enough to squash Adam and Eve like a bug, that's for sure. If the water was suspended as vapor, the heat would roast them. If it was suspended as ice, it'd do the same, due to the effect on the earth's gravity. Any water above the ozone layer would not be shielded from ultraviolet light, and the water molecules would therefore break apart. There's no evidence of a massive, global flood in neither ice cores, tree rings, the ocean floor - and the fact that the polar ice caps are here makes such a flood flat out impossible. Also, 3 dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, also hinting towards a possible fourth. Can you give the location of those 3-4 dinosaurs? I'm very interested in this. What surrounded the Earth before the flood, and where did all the water come from, seeing there was no floods or anything before the flood. (Possibly no rain either?) I'm kinda interested in this as well, seeing as if there was no rain before the flood, very few species could have lived before, or during, the flood. Just chiming in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Crucifixion isn't that bad.... not as bad as something I just thought up Lol, has anyone else seen the life of brian? Roman: Crucifixion? Prisoner: Yes Roman: Good.. Line on the left, one cross each, Next. Crucifixion? Prisoner 2: Yes Roman: Good.. Line on the left, one cross each, Next. Crucifixion? Prisoner 3: Nah, Freedom Roman: What? Prisoner 3: They said I hadn't done anything so I was to live on an island somewhere. Roman: Oh theres nice, well.... off you go then. Prisoner 3: Nah, Im only joking Its crucifixion really Roman: Ooh, very good, very clever. Line on the left, one cross each. Next! Lmao, that film was great. Hail Monty Python!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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