Rogue3 Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Well for those of u who have seen the matrix, I would like to know what u think of them, good, bad, or ugly. I think the Matrix: Reloaded sucked big time, I mean; first off whats the point, neo is unstoppable! whats the purpose, secound it could have ended better then just showing us the "surviver" then the whole hes not out of the matrix its just been a ruse, so that it can all start over! I didnt go in expenting much, but yet sadly I still got lent down. On an other note tho, the action rocked, the movies special effects rocked, the whole Neo fighting the clone agents smith, and the "cake" scene were well done. But the story itself sucked. Well theres my two cents, whats your attitude towards the movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 You hafta remember it really is only one half of a movie. For what it was, I loved it. ^_^ But Neo is out of the Matrix...it's just that he was - as well as Zion - part of a program that kept the Matrix going. But when he walked through the other door, and chose to save Trinity rather than restart Zion and reassimilate what he was into the Matrix - like his five predecessors had chosen...all bets are off. ^.^ Something I'm a little confused about - did Zion get destroyed or didn't it? If it did, why did the machines keep digging? o_O first off whats the point, neo is unstoppable! whats the purpose Erm...no he isn't. And more importantly Morpheus, Trinity, and all the other characters are all very much in danger of being killed ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 I liked it, you just have to really pay attention to the philosphywhatever its called. It took me a while to get somestuff. The action was great. I actually thought the ending was ok. I can't wait for the 3rd one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pad Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Originally posted by Redwing But Neo is out of the Matrix...it's just that he was - as well as Zion - part of a program that kept the Matrix going. But when he walked through the other door, and chose to save Trinity rather than restart Zion and reassimilate what he was into the Matrix - like his five predecessors had chosen...all bets are off. ^.^ Something I'm a little confused about - did Zion get destroyed or didn't it? If it did, why did the machines keep digging? o_O no, zion didnt get gestroyed, it were just a few ships who tried to make an ambush. but as they had that intruder (smith) on board who triggered the emp, the all got killed. does anyone have a clue why that intruder was kept alive while all other humans were killed? so what you´re say red is neo didnt chose any door and just went back to save trinity? i had no clue which door had taken, as one door led to the destruction of all man-machine kind and the other led to reprogamming the matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Ahhhh, thanks for clearing that up ^_^ I'm pretty sure Bane/Smith was kept alive by the machines because they wanted to preserve him as a mole. He wouldn't even have needed to convince them he was Smith; the machines know some people want the Matrix and thus the machines to win, like Cypher in the first film. ^.^ No, Pad. Neo chose the door that the Architect said would lead to the destruction of man-machine-kind, because he wanted to save Trinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 dude, whats wrong with Neo being unstopable? And I loved the end to reloaded, with the mystery of how neo stopped the sqiiddies with his hands...anyways I don't think it sucked in the least bit, that was the second best sequel I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue3 Posted May 20, 2003 Author Share Posted May 20, 2003 yeah, the matrix did have its moments, but still it could have ended better. Reloaded reminded meh a bit of an old tv show called the Prisoner. where he does not conform to what "socity" tells him to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 It rocked so hard it melted my pants. Twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Does anyone get the "spoon?" I think its wierd he got the spoon back..because that spoon was in the matrix before when the kid said "there is no spoon"...but here Neo is in the real world and there is the spoon! Is this someone trying to tell Neo that Matrix stuff can escape the Matrix into the "real world"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 the spoon is symbolic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle d'Tana Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Well, I gonne see it this evening! Its the Swiss-Premiere tonight, and I hope it will be good. I have already seen some scenes, and what I saw maked me fell pretty happy. The Matrix Reloaded sets new brands for the whole filming industry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by Boba Rhett It rocked so hard it melted my pants. Twice. Do you ever keep your pants on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by Boba Rhett It rocked so hard it melted my pants. Twice. Same here... Isn't it so much better the second time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pad Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by Boba Rhett It rocked so hard it melted my pants. Twice. AGAIN? * thinks about buying diapers for rhett * and off course, the spoon is symbolic. but how could anyone in the real world know about the spoon as neo did that "there is no spoon" trick in the matrix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue3 Posted May 23, 2003 Author Share Posted May 23, 2003 maybe the kid made it into the "real world" and gave it to dat one guy to give it to neo to encourage him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 i loved it never a dull moment. i was hooked though the whole thing i got to see it again because i was so in awe of the fight/ action scenes that i didn't really take in everything that was said. i think i pretty much get it, but things always sink in more the second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Originally posted by Rogue3 maybe the kid made it into the "real world" and gave it to dat one guy to give it to neo to encourage him A word the the wise, buy animatrix when it comes out and watch it.^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 The twins make my panties sticky... "We are getting annoyed..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 okay stop talking about panties! ah!!... *runs off to get some honey* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Don't even think about it, Lynkie-poo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Aaaaaw, but I want honey... *puts his fingers inside the honey pot* mmmmmeheheh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuuki Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 I loved it when Neo was swearing, It just made the movie so funny at that point ^____^ however one thing I did kind notice BEWARE if I'm right, DONT LET THE SPOILER, SPOIL YOU! Every single encarnation of the matrix, Neo was ALWAYS THERE. Neo was Neo, and the one each and everytime. Not only that afterwards, I couldn't but help think after he stoped the squids, that wouldnt make sense if everyone was still plugged in? I mean, the matrix has two levels, one accidently built in the other, by the AI that the first Matrix was created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Originally posted by STTCT Does anyone get the "spoon?" I think its wierd he got the spoon back..because that spoon was in the matrix before when the kid said "there is no spoon"...but here Neo is in the real world and there is the spoon! Is this someone trying to tell Neo that Matrix stuff can escape the Matrix into the "real world"?? That's exactly what I gathered from it ^_^ Scar: From what the Architect said, there's no way Zion's real world is a second Matrix, at least from what I could tell. But the point is that Zion's creation was masterminded by the machines. I don't think Neo was the same every time. Just the code that made him the One. Otherwise, why is he such a different person? Also, the machines don't automatically know he's the One. They would if he looked the same every time... edit: Actually, it's even more unlikely because, obviously, Neo looks the same in and out of the machine world. It is possible that he is an exact clone, of course, though... If I do have a gripe, it's that I can see how the ending could have been more dramatic. But that isn't really a gripe, because I liked it just fine. Especially considering that it's only meant to be half a movie ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Originally posted by Kookee Every single encarnation of the matrix, Neo was ALWAYS THERE. Neo was Neo, and the one each and everytime. those weren't past Neos on the monitor. they were all teh possible reactions that Neo could have had to what he was being told. hence, when Neo said bull**** and all the monitors said bull**** the Architect said "denial is the most predictable of all human reactions." there was literally nothing else that Neo would react with, so all the possible Neo reactions were all him yelling Bull**** (although, If I were the one, they'd all yell bull**** on the monitors but I'd be slick enough to change it up and actually have said ****in' a) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuuki Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 I just got the reaction deal there. but thats not what I meant. 'The One' wasn't specified who it was, ever. Also infact that each Matrix was destoryed and Zoin along with it. So then a new Matrix was constructed, along with previous agents, somehow were able to come back. How ever that also brings up the people that are picked to rebuild Zion, then 'The One' dies, and for somereason is dissolved so that another 'One' can be appear. And the process becomes repeated. Everything was ment to be an endless cycle, constructed by that matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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