Andy867 Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Originally posted by MennoniteHobbit palpatine------------------------- beat mace! HA HA HA very funny. palpatine is a stinky politician that depends on the Dark Force to kill his vocal enemies. if palpatine is as bad at the force as his politics, all mace has to do to kill palpatine is to fling a pebble at him, even without using the force! Actually, if his Force is as good as his politics, no one would stand a chance. Cuz consider that he was able to hide his force power from even the most powerful jedi, plus he used his manipulation to assume power in the senate. so obviously he is very good politician in his own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MennoniteHobbit Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 true, Andy867, but remember that even though he is good at stealth, he had to rely upon Ani to kill the rest of the Jedi. also, it wouldn't be that hard to hide that you can manipulate the force, would it? all you would have to do is not use it, and send stool pigeons, not himself, to the Jedi Council. he relies on everyone else, like a parasite. Padme (then Amidala), Obi-Wan, and now Anakin. padme only helped palps become supreme chancellor because he alone "promised" to help Naboo in those dark times. kill a master, then the apprentice will fall, as someone else previously said. with palp's one-of-a-kind personality, i bet he killed his own master. let's find out more of his past, shall we??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 in a recent interview with sam jackson he revealed this... And again, George Lucas was listening, because as it turns out, Mace Windu goes out in a blaze of glory: "Yeah it was hard work, a lot harder than before," Jackson told Tiscali's Entertainment Editor in an interview. "You get what you ask for sometimes, and it's... ah, damn! So, I ended up in Australia, and then I guess I had to rehearse for 8 days before I actually shot it, and learned a 137-move saber fight. It was crazy." So who is it that does you in? "I can't tell you that! Now, that I can't tell you!" There are rumours floating around the 'Net that Mace gets stabbed in the back by Anakin? "Nah, it's full frontal". Ha! Full-frontal lobotomy? "Yeah!" notice he denies being stabbed in the back, but not that its anakin that kills him. also the actor that plays palpatine has said that he hasn't had to do any training, saber or otherwise. so it can't be him thats involved in the '137-move sabre fight'. i think maybe he finishes off mace with lightning after anakin duels with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 No need for spoiler tags in this forum, spoilers are allowed. Originally posted by Siv i think maybe he finishes off mace with lightning after anakin duels with him. I think that sounds the most plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 I think I said something similar in another thread, but had come to the conclusion that Dooku had wore down Mace, and then Palpatine, to show his true power, does a luke on him, and then anakin races in, dooku tries to stop him, but anakin kills him in the process at the request of the emperor, who anakin looks up to. least thats my humble theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimaon Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Could it be possible that Palpy saber-duels, but hes a CGI character? They did it with Obi-Wan vs. Jango in Ep II and they say they now can make things alot more realistic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbas WhOr3 Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Nice find there m8. I thought it would be someone else as well..... Where did this thread come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Originally posted by Jabbas WhOr3 Nice find there m8. I thought it would be someone else as well..... Where did this thread come from? it came from a long long time ago in a galaxy far away! anyways, i can't wait to see ep3 it better be better than ep2 i tell you! i wonder who really kills what is his that there.(ended a sentence in 5 prepositions whoops:eek: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 MennoniteHobbit, it takes a lot more than just avoiding the use of the Force to cover up the fact that you can use the Force. Qui-Gon sensed almost immediately that Anakin had potential, but he needed a midichlorian count to see just how powerful Anakin was. And Palpatine is a political genius. Here's the web he's woven in the last two movies: In episode I, he secretly orcestrated the invasion of his own home planet, using the Trade Federation as his pawns, to humiliate the present Supreme Chancellor, who is tied down in beurocracy (which I'm sure Palpatine was responcible for). Valorum's inability to act on behalf of her planet, Queen Amidala demands a vote of no-confidence. Palpatine, the senator from Naboo, is able to gather enough sympathy votes (and probably coerced more than a few people) to become chancellor. That was the entire point of episode I. Oh, but Palpatine also made another clever move--he let the Federation goombahs know that he was in the Senate. In episode II, Palpatine, through Dooku, through Jango, organizes the assassination-attempt of Senator Amidala. Then, he convinces the Jedi Council to assign Obi-Wan to protect Amidala, which means, as he knows, Anakin will again come into contact with her. Remember, all of this time Palpatine has been watching Anakin's career with "great interest" and has become Anakin's mentor. He knows that Anakin's feelings for Amidala will throw him off-balance and very well set him up for a fall to the Dark Side. Anyway, Palpatine is also in charge of both the Republic and the Separatists, through his Apprentice. Palpatine betrayed the Trade Federation in Episode I--the Federation forces know this! So, here comes Dooku, Palpatine's new apprentice. The Federation tells Dooku that they were betrayed by the Dark Lord of the Sith and that the Sith Lord now controls the Republic! So, Dooku tells them, "hey, I'll lead you against the corrupt Republic!" So, Palpatine's pulling the strings of the Separatists, but they don't know it--Darth Sidious is pulling the strings of the Republic and they don't know it! Now, Jango's a great bounty hunter... so tell me why he would use a Kamino Saberdart on Zam, who has been recognized as Amidala's attempted-assassin? It's because Palpatine and Dooku know that the time has come to "push the button," so to speak. Jango leaves this oh-so-convenient clue for Obi-Wan, which leads Obi-Wan to the Clone Army, which, the Kaminoans, claim has been requested BY THE JEDI! Obi-Wan reports this to Yoda and Mace, and then goes off to capture Jango, who leads him to Geonosis. Whether or not this was a part of the plan is debatable, but either way it works to Palpatine's advantage, because Palpatine and Dooku use Obi-Wan's capture to provoke the Republic into a galactic incident! Despite the fact that Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Amidala were going to be executed, it was the REPUBLIC that fired the first shots of the Clone Wars! Obi-Wan has seen the droid army, reports this to the Republic, and the threat of war convinces the senate to give Palpatine emergency powers! They allow Palpatine to become dictator! Palpatine calls for the use of the Clone Army and puts the Jedi in charge of it! The Clone Wars, he could say, were the fault of the Jedi! It was a Jedi who commissioned the clone army, a Jedi who formed the Separatist Movement, a Jedi who discovered the Clone Army ten years later, and it was thousands of Jedi who led the Clone Armies into battle! Maybe this is what allows Palpatine to wipe out the Jedi--maybe he'll say the Jedi manipulated the Republic into this war to do exactly what Palpatine is doing: take over the Republic and impose their theocracy on the galaxy. All of this, Palpatine has done without ever having his hand suspected, even when his apprentice, Dooku, TELLS the Jedi that the Sith Lord controls the Republic! They figure it was a lie, because Dark Lords of the Sith always lie! It's incredible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Originally posted by Jedi_Monk In episode I, he secretly orcestrated the invasion of his own home planet, using the Trade Federation as his pawns, to humiliate the present Supreme Chancellor, who is tied down in beurocracy (which I'm sure Palpatine was responcible for). yeah, in the book cloak of deception it goes into great detail of how palaptine sent the whole thing up. of course it's EU but it does explains alot and IMO is as canon as EU gets. it explains everything like how the trade federation got their army, why the trade routes where taxed, why valorum is under suspicion and much more. that and the book shadow hunter paints a complete picture of events leading up to ep I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail1 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 brilliant jedi_monk, brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarksideDjembe Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 A lot of people that post here dont seem to know too much...its real annoying. Emporers not powerful enough? sheesh...You think its easy to hide your darkness from the jedi council? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 No it's just people expressing their opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Originally posted by DarksideDjembe A lot of people that post here dont seem to know too much...its real annoying. Well why don't you go find us some spoilers? Its pretty hard. What we do know we share with the forum. We contribute. Sure we know "spoilers" or "rumors" and the rest of the thread is built off of others speculations. Go to any other forum and you will find the same stuff. If you aren't happy with the content than please go find us some spoilers to share. If you can't than please don't complain because its not the kind of thing I like to read here. And it also sucks because I try my best to share with everyone the spoilers that I find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail1 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 just read in the Daily Star (UK paper) Today that Palpatine will slay Mace. It was a small piece on how Ian Mcdiarmid had to outrun Some star wars fans in Scotland, and in closing the story it said something like "He has appeared in the most Star Wars films and will appear in episode3 where he slays Samuel L Jackson's character Mace Windu" that could also be obi-wan, maybe he kills him after he finds out that mace is corrupt (like qui-gon knew) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 genius Jedi_Monk! as simple as people say GL writes the star wars movies, he really adds a lot of depth to a story that he leaves for the viewers to flesh out. that is why star wars is so cool IMO. back to the subject, i think that mace and dooku are pretty much a even match, and the only one who could beat dooku was yoda, so the only one who should be able to beat mace would be sidious since yoda/sidious are pretty evenly matched. but then the powerful anakin/vader is thrown into the mix and could be a plot twist of some kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methos007 Posted March 21, 2004 Share Posted March 21, 2004 In my humble opinion (incoming rant!) Goerge Lucas has become very wrapped up in the new technologie available to him. CG has made him lazy. The stuff he can do, the less he accomplishes. That's not to say I didnt enjoy the first 2 prequels, I just find them to be lacking in what made me fall i love with Star Wars universe (and princess leia!). Another problem I have with the prequels is how it destroys so much of the universe that was created in the EU. Kuat drive yards? Gone. Death Star pototype? Out the window. Slave 1 and Boba Fett's origines? Ha! Clone. I kinda feel like Lucas is ignoring the fan's desires. The prequels have done much for the franchise though. Without out them we would never know what a padwan was, or have all the great games. Come to think of it, he should have let the team at Bioware write the screenplay. Anyway, as for the spoiler, I really stopped believing those things in 1999. Alot of people do follow them, but I just find it easier to wait for the real deal. With just over a year to go, we can expect a real teaser in a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted March 21, 2004 Share Posted March 21, 2004 well, Lucas doesnt care about the fan's desire to a point because this Star Wars Saga is HIS story, not ours. He even said that he will tell the story the way he wants to, and however he wants to and that he believes fans will enjoy the unmodified version of his story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methos007 Posted March 21, 2004 Share Posted March 21, 2004 Good point, but you'd think he would respect what was created over the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 You'd think, but then again, here we are. its his story, it'd be like anyone of us writing a good book/movie and having millions of people telling you what to do in it. so from that point i agree w/him, but he could at least consider what some of the EU has to offer instead of acting like he hates it and wants it destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methos007 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 My point exactly, there is a delicate balance int he Star Wars universe, and the prequels have broken it. It's a two sided coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Actually, Lucas isnt bashing EU stuff at all. In fact, from what I've learned, every Star Wars book written, like the NJO, was approved BY Lucas himself and his staff for publishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methos007 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 You'd think he'd incorperate the EU a little more then. The only instance I'm aware of of the EU making it into the movies if with the blue Twi'lek jedi Alayya Secura (spelling?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 their is another E.U. character that's going to be in Ep. 3 but his role is small and may be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methos007 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Who would that be? (God let it be someone cool!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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