sup3rsnail Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 [/rant] Why, Oh, WHY, Is every god damn server filled with people screaming "DUHH YOU LAM33rR!!11 I HAD CHAT UP WTFD!!!11 -vote kick-" Please someone enlighten me! WHERE THE F**K DID LAMER COME FROM?![rant] It's getting sickening. I'd like to be informed where it came from. and How it came to be...Then maybe I'll be nicer to these dumb****s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DK-Squee Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 it came from jk1!!! DUH!! LAMER NOOB!!! no just kidding, but really it came from jk1 where everyone only accecpted people with honor in thier servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Oh yes, and calling everyone "lamer" shows that they are tremendously honourable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 I believe the term first attained widespread usage in the Quake community (circa 1996), to refer to actions some people considered annoying or borderline "cheating." These included "camping" (waiting around in a certain area, to hog a certain weapon or powerup, to snipe at unwary players or to kill players seconds after they respawned by camping spawn positions). "LPB's" (ie: "Low Ping Bastards"). These were players thought to have an unfair advantage in the game, due to the fact that they possessed high speed internet connections (less commonly available and more expensive at the time than they are now). Likewise the term "HPB's" was coined to refer to people who's latency/ping was so high that it interfered with the normal flow of the game (often poor AOL users). "Spawn Killing" (camping respawn areas to get kills, see "camping" above). Type-killing aka Chatkilling: killing a player while they are "talking" in the game instead of fighting. While this was often called "Lame" it was also acknowledged that people who chat and get killed are also at fault. Remember to that back in those days games didn't have any indication that a person was typing (chat bubbles in FPS's didn't become common until Quake3's release in 1999). Other things that people yelled "lame" at were using one weapon (ie: the Rocket Launcher) that was thought to be the most powerful (this promoted the mod "rocket arena" to be made, so that people all spawned with the same weapon(s) and therefore no excuse); hogging various powerups, and doing annoying things in team games (ie: not playing as a team, hiding with the flag, attack teammates); excessive whining and profanity, etc. Finally, "lame" could also refer to the use of "hacks" (game exploiting cheats) such as aim bots, full bright, wall hacks and scripted moves. Of course widespread paranoia and the sore-loser mentality accompanied many of these. So that people who lacked the ability to lose gracefully could always try to save face by accusing others of being "lame" or "lamers." In short "Lame" came to mean anything that was considered annoying or bad in the game, and came to be a generic insult. People accused of laming were termed "lamers" which lead to the humorous slang term "lamas." Since many consider Quake as the "foundation" of internet FPS gaming, its not surprising that the conventions of that old community continue to influence subsequent games, even if they have no direct ties to the Quake franchise (all JK2/JA have in common with it are the base engines they use). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 A true gaming encyclopedia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup3rsnail Posted January 1, 2004 Author Share Posted January 1, 2004 Originally posted by Kurgan I believe the term first attained widespread usage in the Quake community (circa 1996), to refer to actions some people considered annoying or borderline "cheating." These included "camping" (waiting around in a certain area, to hog a certain weapon or powerup, to snipe at unwary players or to kill players seconds after they respawned by camping spawn positions). "LPB's" (ie: "Low Ping Bastards"). These were players thought to have an unfair advantage in the game, due to the fact that they possessed high speed internet connections (less commonly available and more expensive at the time than they are now). Likewise the term "HPB's" was coined to refer to people who's latency/ping was so high that it interfered with the normal flow of the game (often poor AOL users). "Spawn Killing" (camping respawn areas to get kills, see "camping" above). Type-killing aka Chatkilling: killing a player while they are "talking" in the game instead of fighting. While this was often called "Lame" it was also acknowledged that people who chat and get killed are also at fault. Remember to that back in those days games didn't have any indication that a person was typing (chat bubbles in FPS's didn't become common until Quake3's release in 1999). Other things that people yelled "lame" at were using one weapon (ie: the Rocket Launcher) that was thought to be the most powerful (this promoted the mod "rocket arena" to be made, so that people all spawned with the same weapon(s) and therefore no excuse); hogging various powerups, and doing annoying things in team games (ie: not playing as a team, hiding with the flag, attack teammates); excessive whining and profanity, etc. Finally, "lame" could also refer to the use of "hacks" (game exploiting cheats) such as aim bots, full bright, wall hacks and scripted moves. Of course widespread paranoia and the sore-loser mentality accompanied many of these. So that people who lacked the ability to lose gracefully could always try to save face by accusing others of being "lame" or "lamers." In short "Lame" came to mean anything that was considered annoying or bad in the game, and came to be a generic insult. People accused of laming were termed "lamers" which lead to the humorous slang term "lamas." Since many consider Quake as the "foundation" of internet FPS gaming, its not surprising that the conventions of that old community continue to influence subsequent games, even if they have no direct ties to the Quake franchise (all JK2/JA have in common with it are the base engines they use). ...no comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 lol kurgan the google fiend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master William Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 LOL Kurgan! Myself I do never scream the word "lamer" anywhere, even if I do get killed in my clanserver (where we have certain rules). I just tell them to stop it, or I simply freeze them and warn them. Just whining with that word shows how childish a person is, and can also reveal the persons age. The little whiny kids always go "lamer!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Blackrose Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Ahem... The correct Quake terminology would be llama... not lamer, llama. I have no idea how the hell it evolved into lamer... It was probably Counter-Strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antilles_CL Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 LLaMA??? As in the animal? Yeah how the heck did it go from a spitting animal to a killing crazed physco ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master William Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 omgz u r all llamas omg wtf u cant even play u just lame ppl and man its so cheap go get lifes A joke, yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Its called a lamer because that person is so lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Have you ever considered working for the history channel, Kurgan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Originally posted by IG-64 Have you ever considered working for the history channel, Kurgan? LMAO I can just see the K man, wearing a tweed jacket with leather elbow patches, a bow tie and smoking a pipe..... "today we will be discussing how one's choice of avatar will promote fear in posters all over the world.....this will be followed by display of the bong used by the id software crew during the process of making Doom" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 who knows, he could even be the Mail Call guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Originally posted by IG-64 Have you ever considered working for the history channel, Kurgan? ROFL Originally posted by IG-64 who knows, he could even be the Mail Call guy ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lllKyNeSlll Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 jk1 probably didn't have lamers, because you can't really chat kill, there is no chat box. And everyone has the same moves, just some people used them better than others. There weren't honor folks. There were mostly a large number off ffa nf saberists, ff saberists. Then there is the elite community,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal-Gon Gin Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 "Llama" was derived from "lamer", as "pweend" from "owned". And I *think* you could trace the popularization of these terms (and l33t sp34k, truth be told) to the staff at the original PlanetQuake. Not the origin, but the popularization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antilles_CL Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Originally posted by IG-64 who knows, he could even be the Mail Call guy No..That guy is just downright scary. Nice little Kurgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontlikegeorge Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 LMAO I can just see the K man, wearing a tweed jacket with leather elbow patches, a bow tie and smoking a pipe..... "today we will be discussing how one's choice of avatar will promote fear in posters all over the world.....this will be followed by display of the bong used by the id software crew during the process of making Doom" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDKnite188 Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 I just learned something from the wisdom of Kurgan! Good work! People who whine are lame. Hence a person who is lame is a lamer. I could imagine that it started with Quake 1 considering it was probably the first game with a popular MP mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gohan_Trunksss Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 i got banned from a server because i used force mind trick, come on guys its built in the game as a force power, not laming if its intended to be used by the game makers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzerian Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 people just dont like others that are better than them because they can sneak around unseen or get to the best sniper spots ive found that JA has become alot more accepting than a few months ago when everyone used singles cuz they didnt want to be called a noob for using a staff but now almost everyone uses duel or staff the only thing i really consider laming is someone lift laming or shield whoring and running away siege also seems to have died its almost impossible to find a good siege server anymore but ive found a good power duel server that has problems with 'smileys' and if you use that server youll know what im talking about:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup3rsnail Posted January 2, 2004 Author Share Posted January 2, 2004 I just left the jk3files server. There was most idiotic assf**cks there. To name a few : Mother, Velux, Lightning, and The Enigma. All gang-raping me for being a newb. We were playing on that bonus map with the floor that can be turned off. Mother would keep gripping people and throwing them in, AND THEY WOULD'VE JUST SPAWNED! While Lightning would be controlling the floor. Whenever Mother gripped them over it, Lightning would open up. Velux was just being an asshole. Since aparently the JK3Files server enforces no chat kill, saber down stuff. He would just be killing everyone who just spawned or are typing. The Enigma kept using that THROWING debug thing Annoying the f*ck out of everyone And why the hell wasn't an admin there?!?!!?!? God. I regret buying Jedi Academy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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