SkinWalker Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Get the full story (or as full as I've been able to find so far) at from this article at The Register. A mother's enquiry about buying Microsoft Flight Simulator for her ten-year-old son prompted a night-time visit to her home from a state trooper.... So alarmed was the Staples clerk at the prospect of the ten year old learning to fly, that he informed the police, the Greenfield Recorder reports. The authorities moved into action, leaving nothing to chance. I think this is a good example of paranoia about terrorism gone too far. It's also something that private citizens shouldn't stand for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 "Shortly before Christmas, the FBI issued a terror alert to beware of drivers with maps, or reference books. " Yes, let's also beware of mini-vans, since they can hold bombs too. Oh, and get those damn violent video games off the shelves, everyone knows that it can train kids to be skillful with a rifle. All I have to say, is that for a society who has a war against terrorists, should take a deep look at who is really causing the terror and paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Just about anything can be attributed to terrorism today, eh? I was listening to NPR and this lady was talking about how the federal government was talking about banning lining up at the bathroom on airplanes. They were apparently afraid of terrorists "congregating and planning" near the bathroom. That means that people who want to go to the bathroom might have to raise their hands and get permission from a flight attendant to go relieve their business. Next how about having our hands, feet, and mouth strapped with duct tape, or ban paper from airplanes because they can be used to inflict papercuts I realize the need for caution for terrorism, but this is getting absurd. It can only go so far until one's privacy is being intruded and violated. Right now I think this war on terrorism is unfocused, uncoordinated, and though the right intentions of "defeating terrorism" are there, a viable plan to combat it is still nowhere to be found. In short, the Bush administration probably knows what they want, but don't really have any know-how on how to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Girl Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 "Shortly before Christmas, the FBI issued a terror alert to beware of drivers with maps, or reference books. " I don't know if I should laugh at this... PS, not only don't they like bathroom lines on a plane, they don't like "suspicous bathroom behavior". When I made a frantic dash to the loo on a plane a summer ago, the steward-lady practicly TACKLED me. Not because I was running, I was later told, but because I was running "suspicously right after take-off". W...T....F? ( i wasn't arrested or anything, but everytime I got up after that, they'd WATCH) These are dark times, children. We aren't allowed to run for the bathroom. But in all seriousness, a little paranoia is always good. Eneogh to keep everyone on thier toes. But now I see its going too far...this ridiculus article posted by SkinWalker, and this FBI terror report... But everyone thinks its "Okay, because its done for our protection." Bah. What's next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokemaster Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Orca Wail I These are dark times, children. We aren't allowed to run for the bathroom. *Stands up to go to the bathroom* Military/antiterrorism guy: LOOK OUT! *gets shot with rocked launchers and machine guns.* Originally posted by Orca Wail But everyone thinks its "Okay, because its done for our protection." Bah. What's next? We're not going to be allowed to carry clothes onboard because they can be used for choking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 *reads all above posts about terrorism precautions* Mmmhmm...(insert 20 minutes of histarical laughter followed by a half hour of giggling) Seriously though, Bush's idiocy is begining to poison the minds of Americans. I mean seriously, I played a flight simulator when I was 10 and thats when I realized I don't wanna be a piolet. Too many flashy buttons that'd get everyone on board killed. Beware people with maps? Oh cheese-n-rice...given the fact that men NEVER pull over to ask for directions, I could only imagine the freeways and backroads this past holiday season...cluttered. Raising my hand to go potty? Welcome to 2nd grade, people. Unable to carry cloths on the flight? Hell, given the situations as is, I'll be in my destination with no cloths, won't I? Get a reality check people(Bush administration). If you'd of been doing your job, you'd of never had to try and establish a thought Geedubyah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datheus Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 The whole thing is silly. A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist. Just for ****s and giggles, let's say a terrorist is making a mad dash towards the bathroom. Why he would run, I don't know. I guess because he was late. Anyway, if the steward tackles him, the terrorist is a terrorist. If he was packing a knife, do you think he would just give up and say, "Oh! You have captured me. You win." Hell no. The man is out to kill people. Ergo, he'll give the steward stabbity death and take the plane over anyways. The paranoia doesn't help at all. It may even make it worse. While we're dicking around with all these false alarms, the real terrorists could be doing their thing under the veil of darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Depends on the terrorist. If its a Muslim terrorist, than tackling them would probably put a stump in his plans. This is because when a Muslim dies, they want to be as well groomed as possible. So when a Muslim terrorist strikes, they'll be groomed like whoa. So spit on his shoe. That'll stop em. Thats what I heard atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Hey being naked on a plane with lots of nice naked chicks isn't so bad:p But anyway, I've been to the US a couple of months ago and you guys seem to be getting more xenophobic then ever. Hell, if you really want to fight terrorism, fight poverty. It all links up to terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Americans are funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I sincerely hope someone got fired. That's just incredibly stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MennoniteHobbit Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 WTF? A flight sim purchase called terrorism? Huh? Messed up people. Though, even though u could say that better safe than sorry is good, it definitely did NOT apply there. A flight sim purchase, come on dudes and dudettes. Really, next thing we know everyone around the US is gonna run around rampant, with a bad case of schizophrenia. Originally posted by Prime Americans are funny. I'm just guessin from that that ur not American, Prime. (Don't say duh, Im warning u! )In general, we aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by MennoniteHobbit I'm just guessin from that that ur not American, Prime. (Don't say duh, Im warning u! )In general, we aren't. Not so sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taoistimmortal Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 see the problem with america is that on the whole we are not an orderly society too many damn rebels with views of their own who when forced to move to the grooves of authority would rather play the part of the offending mule. that is to say that we dont enjoy taking orders or like being told what to do in any way or form. so this paranoia and xenophobia both traits that successful countries have, in the history of mankind, had an abundance of are natural inhibitors to our rebelious freedoms because they are based on either ideas of fear, or superiority. a good example is the racism found most notoriously in the south with the rise of the KKK and with the nazi's in germany, because this is really what is being talked about isnt it even if it is subtely. the divide between fear of another egregious attack on U.S. soil or the diminishing of our privacy most importantly when it comes to the prying eyes of law enforment is the issue as i see it. even if this did begin from a crazy story of a shop clerks paranoia. one big question. Is there a solution to all of this outside of this so called war on terrorism. was the patriot act that solution or was it the beginning my friends which is an acronym that frightens me more than the possibility i will one day receive a fine white powder in an envelope in the mail or whether rogue states will sell radioactive materials to terrorist groups and explode a dirty bomb in some major metropolis, or if someone releases a cloud of serin in a crop duster ect. unfortunatly the acronym frightened and offended me so much that i have voided it from my brain in an attempt to equalize the inherent insanity of it all. i remeber there was some plan by ashcroft shortly after the patriot act passed congress and the house, by an almost unanimous descision, to enlist the help of ordinary american citizens by encouraging them to become informants. Thank the last resolve of reason that there is still enough clear sightedness in this country to disavow an idea so menacing and eerily familiar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 [Deleted quote of entire post above] Paragraphs for the LOVE OF GOD!!!! *Yeah... I agree. But we certainly didn't need to see it twice! --SkinWalker:cool: yeah....mah bad, it was late and my brain told me the quote button needed to be utilized -- ET Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MennoniteHobbit Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad Not so sure Well, I'm just an American citizen, definitely NOT American by blood. So, when I'm saying that Americans are not funny, I'm just saying that from experience with other people in my city in Ohio. So, maybe other Americans are. How would I know? Originally posted by Kain *reads all above posts about terrorism precautions* Mmmhmm...(insert 20 minutes of histarical laughter followed by a half hour of giggling) Seriously though, Bush's idiocy is begining to poison the minds of Americans. I mean seriously, I played a flight simulator when I was 10 and thats when I realized I don't wanna be a piolet. Too many flashy buttons that'd get everyone on board killed. Beware people with maps? Oh cheese-n-rice...given the fact that men NEVER pull over to ask for directions, I could only imagine the freeways and backroads this past holiday season...cluttered. Raising my hand to go potty? Welcome to 2nd grade, people. Unable to carry cloths on the flight? Hell, given the situations as is, I'll be in my destination with no cloths, won't I? Get a reality check people(Bush administration). If you'd of been doing your job, you'd of never had to try and establish a thought Geedubyah. Well, I don't think it's all President Bush's fault. I mean, he's the only President who had to come up with something to defend the U S of A after 9/11. Really, no other President had to go through that and face criticism for not doing the right thing. Like someone else said b4 that I'm too lazy to quote directly, he's just doing the best he can to protect the US from terrorists. The saying "better safe that sorry" is a good guideline, but some people take it too far. Just because of some people's paranoia going out of hand duzn mean that u blame it all on the President. I mean, would u want another 9/11? But yes, paranoia does go a bit 2 far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datheus Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Originally posted by MennoniteHobbit Well, I don't think it's all President Bush's fault. I mean, he's the only President who had to come up with something to defend the U S of A after 9/11. Really, no other President had to go through that and face criticism for not doing the right thing. ... LBJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 There will be other 9/11 if you don't know how to deal with these kinds of situations and Bsh obviously doesn't know a sh!t about how to end these kinds of problems. The more bullets he'll shoot, the more people will be against him, terrorists and pacifists alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Originally posted by MennoniteHobbit I mean, he's the only President who had to come up with something to defend the U S of A after 9/11. Really, no other President had to go through that and face criticism for not doing the right thing. You're correct, no other president had 9/11. That DOESNT mean the other presidents didn't have other crisis' that they had to deal with. Cuban Missile Crisis anybody? Pearl Harbor? Other presidents have had situations rise up like this. Some dealt with them properly, some didn't. Bush falls into the latter catergory. Creating panic and hysteria among the population is NOT going to help keep us safe from terrorists. All it's REALLY going to do it cause us to turn on each other, ESPECIALLY the americans who are of middle eastern descent. Had it been an Iranian woman asking about the flight simulator they probably would have evoked the Patriot act and put her in jail with no attorney or even an actual charge levied against her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathain Valtiel Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 I dare you to quote Pearl Harbor to some historians... Some nuts believe that FDR knew about it all in advance. (He only knew SOMETHING was coming, just not what.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeOfPhunk Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 A light bit of humour for this thread... ...when I first read the title, I thought somebody had stapled rats to a 10-year old - maybe as part of some kind of crazy, sadistic bet to get himself a copy of Flight Simulator... heh ..sorry - you can carry on now...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Originally posted by Lathain Valtiel I dare you to quote Pearl Harbor to some historians... Some nuts believe that FDR knew about it all in advance. (He only knew SOMETHING was coming, just not what.) I'm pretty sure britain knew it was coming, after all we had broken the german's codes a long while ago (not the americans as the movies would have you believe). The question is whether churchill would have thought that the best way to get the americans into the war was to not tell them at all, or to tell his mate FDR who then didn't tell anyone. i thought the same thing about the stapled rats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Keralys Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I totally agree that this is getting out of hand. I disagree with those who say that Bush has done a lousy job. I think that overall, he has done fairly well, actually. I certainly have issues with the Patriot Act (violation of the 4th amendment, anyone?) but that wasn't all him, for one thing, and most of the Democrats in Congress voted for it. It was reactionary and thus dangerous. To be honest, it really doesn't matter if FDR or Bush or whoever knew something was coming if the didn't know when or where or how. Renegade - that's pretty much what I thought, so this was quite a change... I'm not even going to try to respond to taoist as - no offense, dude, you often write some good stuff - I've pretty much given up on reading his posts as they're nearly unintelligible when you're casually reading like I am right now. Americans are funny. We're also (ahem) on the top of the world in nearly every way. Yes, that's ego speaking, but in many ways it's true; we are the model of republican democracy that most of the rest of the Western world at least tries to imitate, we are up there economicall (only the UK has consistently had stronger currency than the US in recent years) and, despite our multitude of flaws, we do manage to take care of our own for the most part... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by MennoniteHobbit I'm just guessin from that that ur not American, Prime. (Don't say duh, Im warning u! )In general, we aren't. YOu are correct. I am Canadian, which makes me even funnier than Americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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