Play Battlefront with Honour!

[yaebginn]

I dont know prime all that well, so i hadn't a clue. I thought he was serious and my respect of him dropped a notch.

[Sabre9]

Originally posted by TK-8252

It's hilarious how many people actually took this seriously.

 

MOD MAKERS: DO NOT GET ANY IDEAS ABOUT ADMIN MODS.

 

I'm sure it's a personality type. As soon as SWBF was announced, I'm sure those types of people got that Evil idea in their head.

 

Its our responsiblity to not play on their servers, so their servers have like 3 players each, and die off.

[eastcoast2895]

better safe than sorry. yeah fine i was fool completely after seeing the whole debate from jo to ja, wasn't focusing on who said what just what was said. i was really scared that there would become a league of people out there following some type of rule that would slowly destroy the free for all gameplay where it became a rarity to find a fun free for all server.

also about it being more reasonable in jo/ja, i think it isn't more reasonable, just more easily enforced by the way the game is setup. so more and more servers force the rules on people, forcing people into thinking that is the way to play and it spreads like a plague.

[Prime]

Originally posted by AIVAS

As I've said many times, many ways.

 

No one, and I mean NO-god-d***ed-ONE has the right to stop anyone from playing the game how they choose.*

 

*I'm not supporting honourz or anti-honourz, I'm supporting "play the game how YOU want to, and F*** anyone who tries to keep you from doing so."

I agree to some extent. I have no problem with people playing the way they want. In JO/JA, if RPGers and honour players stick to their servers, I will stay away and stick to mine.

 

The problem arises when at the time the saber code was started, players tried to enforce it on everyone. The issue I have when the rules that are not a part of the default game are forced upon me and others. I just want to be able to play the game as it was intended.

 

Originally posted by Sabre9

Anyway, I was hoping it was a joke, but after seeing 2 good games practically go down in flames in part because of it, I'm not taking chances with it infecting a brand new game, with this much potential.

I couldn't agree more.

 

Originally posted by Sabre9

I'll admit, jokes like this'll get me everytime. I'd rather fall for a joke than risk the chance of not alerting everyone to a possible disaster-in-the-making...

and

Originally posted by yaebginn

I dont know prime all that well, so i hadn't a clue. I thought he was serious and my respect of him dropped a notch.

and

Originally posted by eastcoast2895

better safe than sorry. yeah fine i was fool completely after seeing the whole debate from jo to ja, wasn't focusing on who said what just what was said.

Sorry lads. I figured it would be more obvious. I sometimes forget that it can be hard when just using text. My apologies.

 

But I am glad to see that most others feel the same way I do about this. I just to have a lot of fun fragging you guys when Battlefront comes out. Or more likely, have fun having you all frag me!

[fishlore]

LOL. Very Nice!!

 

Obviously I'm new here.

 

Anyway this thread kind of got me thinking about an extremely heated topic the battlefield world. I was wondering what people here thought about it.

 

Is it acceptable or unacceptable to attack an enemy backed up into their last uncapturable spawn point? A.K.A. Spawn Camping.

 

This rule very much falls into the whole code of conduct thing.

[Stingray]

Originally posted by fishlore

LOL. Very Nice!!

 

Obviously I'm new here.

 

Anyway this thread kind of got me thinking about an extremely heated topic the battlefield world. I was wondering what people here thought about it.

 

Is it acceptable or unacceptable to attack an enemy backed up into their last uncapturable spawn point? A.K.A. Spawn Camping.

 

This rule very much falls into the whole code of conduct thing.

 

If it's uncapturable, it's destroyable and thus it will be perfectly OK to kill those who spawn, since you are trying to destroy that spawnpoint (unless you are just trying to get frags and not trying to destroy the sp. That's just lame )

[StormHammer]

ROFLMFAO.

 

Prime, you are a sadistic sod.

 

In the best possible way

 

 

As the discussion has got onto TK'ing - I disagree with it. Although I've accidentally TK'ed a few people in my time, it's largely because other players step into your line of fire just as you shoot, or they're simply oblivious of the fact you are already shooting. So I think a lot of TK 'accidents' could be alleviated by practising better situational awareness. Sometimes you can't help but to 'shoot first ask questions later', especially when someone appears from nowhere in front of you and starts shooting.

 

In Call Of Duty one thing I like is where some servers use 'Reflect' - so if you shoot a team-mate, you sustain the damage yourself. That seems like a quite fair way to deal with the problem, and it would be good to see something like this in Battlefront.

 

Now onto the issue of 'Spawn Killing'. This is only acceptable to me when you are fighting over a 'capturable' spawn point, because it's a natural part of the battle. In Wolfenstein: ET, for example, there are some spawn points on the map that remain capturable until an objective is completed, like blowing a wall. Then the spawn point becomes a 'static' spawn for the attacking team - i.e., they have advanced.

 

I strongly disagree with spawn killing at these 'static' spawn points. When you spawn in a building, and every exit is being constantly bombarded, the game degenerates into 'spawn and die' for the rest of the time, and it wrecks the fun. The only way around this kind of spawn killing is if there are alternative covered exits from the spawn location (like a tunnel), so that people can get out that way.

 

As for players who 'camp' static spawn points - i.e, they go to the spawn point and wait for people to spawn so they can kill them - I think that's just lame. They're easy kills if you spawn and someone behind you shoots you in the back. If the only way you can get kills is camping a spawn point, then you suck.

[Idei]

There are some rules that are based upon common sense. Example: In a team based game, it's generally accepted that attacking teammates is unacceptable.

 

Most players can figure out this rule even though it isn't written anywhere.

 

Hoax posting can easily be misconstrued if players aren't familiar with the poster. There are better ways to make a point, especially on this forum.

 

There are good posters and threads here.

 

Good hoax btw.

 

Idei

[Alegis]

Those who have played JO/JA shouldve known immediately that he was joking..else, well..just sad

 

Only honour stuff in "normal" games is: no tk'in,chatkilling, spawnkilling or stuff like overuse voice commands.

[Little Red Riding Hood]

I'm sorry, but I cannot help but laugh at the fact it took so long before anyone noticed the joke. That topic had a nasty smell of sarcasm to it.

 

 

As for TKing.... that depends on much, for me. I agree, TKing on purpose of random people, during the middle of a battle, is quite annoying and just moronic, but if you were to just lame around, and TK a few friends or warm up, I have no problem with it.

 

I'm kinda split on the spawncamping... I really dislike rules that go against the way the game is meant to be played (regardless of what I just said of TKing), but still.... I've only once tried getting spawn fragged like 10-20 times in a row in BF1942, and that SURE AS HELL wasn't fun (that map, with ze Russians and Germans, and bridges, I think).

 

 

 

PS: Prime, you forgot an important rule; you must bow before, during, and after each duel, and of course say 'good fight' in a many coloured bind (if colours are possible in Battlefront), after each kill.

[Rad Blackrose]

Excuse me while I go fall on my saber.

 

Damn I'm lucky I didn't get baited on this one.

[Kengo]

I've run into this 'Prime' character on the JA and KOTOR forums and I'm sorry to say that he lies at the centre of a web of crime and villainy! Professor Mor.....I mean Prime must be stopped, if London....I mean LucasForums are to be kept in good health. His reign of tyranny must be ended. Who's with me???

 

EDIT: Rebel Hero? Can't remember ever seeing that one before

[Prime]

Originally posted by StormHammer

ROFLMFAO.

 

Prime, you are a sadistic sod.

 

In the best possible way

Thanks Stormhammer. I have to have a little fun sometimes!

 

Originally posted by Idei

Hoax posting can easily be misconstrued if players aren't familiar with the poster. There are better ways to make a point, especially on this forum.

That's true. It wasn't my intent to fool people. Just to start an outcry about how stupid the whole thing is.

 

Originally posted by Exar Kun Rules

PS: Prime, you forgot an important rule; you must bow before, during, and after each duel, and of course say 'good fight' in a many coloured bind (if colours are possible in Battlefront), after each kill.

Gah! I new something was missing. Since I cut and pasted the original SC post, I guess the bowing stuff was added later. It would have been a worthy addition to my Battlefront rules!

 

Originally posted by Kengo

I've run into this 'Prime' character on the JA and KOTOR forums and I'm sorry to say that he lies at the centre of a web of crime and villainy!

Tis not Prime. I, the Mighty Megatron, have stolen his account and post freely on these boards, easily tricking these insignificant flesh creatures!

[PR-0927]

O.K., stop with this crap. I know it is only for "good intentions," but it certainly has ruined the online gamers of JO/JA. Nobody has the good old hit and run or total chaos servers where there aren't any rules. It makes the FFA servers a crappy dueling server. Why don't they just create dueling servers? Why disguise a FFA server. I hate the stupid stuff, like, "no laming" and "no attacking people at all even if they attack you." It is just crap.

 

Take my word: This will not make Star Wars: Battlefront a better game. Leave it alone. Please.

 

[Poggle]

I'm sorry, but I cannot help but laugh at the fact it took so long before anyone noticed the joke. That topic had a nasty smell of sarcasm to it.

Yup thats some funny stuff I was in stitches when I read about all the weapon holstering nice one prime

[Prime]

Originally posted by Majin Revan

O.K., stop with this crap. I know it is only for "good intentions," but it certainly has ruined the online gamers of JO/JA. Nobody has the good old hit and run or total chaos servers where there aren't any rules. It makes the FFA servers a crappy dueling server. Why don't they just create dueling servers? Why disguise a FFA server. I hate the stupid stuff, like, "no laming" and "no attacking people at all even if they attack you." It is just crap.

 

Take my word: This will not make Star Wars: Battlefront a better game. Leave it alone. Please.

You do, of course, realize that this was all a joke? I guess not.

 

Originally posted by Poggle

Yup thats some funny stuff I was in stitches when I read about all the weapon holstering nice one prime

Thanks dude.

[Mountainforest]

Originally posted by StormHammer

ROFLMFAO.

 

Prime, you are a sadistic sod.

 

 

And he calles himself a moderator! Unbelievable!

 

I don't think the reflect idea would be nice. Have you seen the trailers? Lasets everywhere, explosions everywhere. If you throw a thermla detonator blowing a teammate allong with some enemies, he should be dead. Accidents happen, it makes the game realistic.

[Prime]

Originally posted by jasperw

And he calles himself a moderator! Unbelievable!

You noticed? Crap!

[LukeKatarn]

Majjin Revan it was a joke.

 

 

I hate TKers and the honuer code. Once I joined a server on JA and I attacked someone with their saber down I did not know about the "Honuer code" then and they started useing admin powers (I think it was admin powers like teleporting me and trakeing controll of my char, I could not talk, I could not move, and my char was faceing the ground) I had no idea and them made such a FUSS It TICKS me off. As for TKers once I was playing good ol' siege destroyer on JA. So I kept switching to rebels (I LOVE rebels) and eventualy people got TICKED because I was never on imps so one person kept TKing me lucky for me others killed the TKer but he kept on comeing at me in the hanger and in space. (I switched my name to Green Leader then.)

[Xirion]

last time i checked i thought war was about winning, honour or not you do what you gotta do

[tFighterPilot]

*takes out Katana and comits Seppuku*

[Alegis]

Those who played JO/JA and believed this is true, READ! DO SOMETHING WHICH REQUIRES THINKING BEFORE YOUR BRAINS DIE

 

Anyways I have no feer at all for the JO/JA syndrome to come over SW:BF. Its a total other game with no saber down(-> THAT was the reason)

[tFighterPilot]

It was pretty fun standing in the center of the mess, and when somebody killed me, SABER DOWN NO ATTACK!

[Radd]

Following these rules, I'm certain we can have a pleasant, polite, and mutually enjoyable war that all sides can find acceptable, just like real wars.

 

Remember troops, don't aim your weapons directedly at the enemy at any time, that's how eyes are lost!

 

Tut, tut. Now get out onto that battlefield and mingle, mingle like you've never mingled before!

[Radd]

Originally posted by fishlore

LOL. Very Nice!!

 

Obviously I'm new here.

 

Anyway this thread kind of got me thinking about an extremely heated topic the battlefield world. I was wondering what people here thought about it.

 

Is it acceptable or unacceptable to attack an enemy backed up into their last uncapturable spawn point? A.K.A. Spawn Camping.

 

This rule very much falls into the whole code of conduct thing.

 

Not only is it acceptable, but ought to be encouraged practice by both sides. The idea in a battle is to win. You never hear nations whining that it's not fair when you cut off their troop and supply lines in real life wars.

 

Other practices that should be encouraged, someone with a long range weapon, with a scope that lets them target more precisely at that range, should hide themselves somewhere with a good view of the battlefield, and shoot the enemy.

 

Soldiers being shot at should be encouraged to find what we like to call "cover", and shoot from behind it. The two goals should be to 1) shoot the enemy and 2) not get shot by the enemy.

 

Groups of soldiers should be encouraged to organize under a single leader, or at the very least a group of scouts, and use the battlefield and their own weapons to their advantage. Larger groups should try to surround and wipe out smaller groups to ensure victory with minimal losses.

 

I know that in most online games, all of these practices are considered "cheap" and "unfair", but in the really real world, it's what we like to call "intelligent".