yangyan Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I found this on the star wars databank and it showed a picture of a real person. Kyle Katarn was an elite Rebel agent entrusted with some of the most crucial missions of the Rebel Alliance. It was Katarn that single-handedly infiltrated an Imperial installation on Danuta, securing the technical plans of the Empire's Death Star battle station. A former Imperial, Katarn was born on the Sullustan colony moon of Sulon, living a simple existence as a farmer with his father Morgan. Unaware of his father's Rebel sympathies, Kyle joined the Imperial Academy at Carida. He was indoctrinated and became a decorated Imperial trooper. While in the Academy, Kyle's father was killed. Official records indicated that the elder Katarn had been murdered by Rebel dissidents. Kyle learned the truth, however, from a Rebel agent named Jan Ors. His father was killed by the Empire for treason. Disgusted with the institution he had joined, Kyle discarded his badges and merits, and cast away his Imperial trappings. He resolved to join the Rebellion. Kyle became a highly capable and recommended Rebel agent, vouched for by the respected Jan Ors. Kyle drew the attention of no less than Mon Mothma, leader of the Alliance. She entrusted Katarn with that fateful mission to Danuta, and after the Battle of Yavin, Katarn was instrumental in quelling the threat of the Imperial dark trooper project. Returning to Sulon, Kyle learned that his father had been aiding a refugee effort on the barren world of Ruusan. Morgan had discovered ancient ruins on Ruusan pointing the way to the Valley of the Jedi, the fabled battleground between the ancient Jedi and Sith. The Valley represented a great focal point of energy that if exploited could turn the tide in the perpetual battle between light and dark. Kyle knew that the location of the Valley should never fall into Imperial hands. Others were already on the path to discovering the Valley, however. The Dark Jedi Jerec and his six henchmen, Gorc, Pic, Maw, Sariss, Boc and Yun, were determined to seize the nexus of power. One by one, Katarn defeated them, though in his aggressive strikes, he came dangerously close to succumbing to the dark side of the Force. Deep in the Valley of the Jedi, Kyle confronted Jerec, the very man who had killed Morgan Katarn. The two did battle, and when Kyle slew Jerec, he fulfilled an ancient prophecy. The spirits of long-dead Jedi, trapped in the Valley for a thousand years, were finally freed. With this energy unleashed, the Valley of the Jedi's worth as a weapon was effectively eliminated. Long used to operating independently, Katarn at first refused Luke Skywalker's offer to become a Jedi apprentice. Instead, he continued to serve the Alliance, now the New Republic, on many important missions. After a troubling run-in with the dark side on the forgotten Sith world of Dromund Kaas, Katarn conceded that he would benefit from Skywalker's tutelage, and joined the Jedi Master's fledgling Jedi academy. Kyle is human male with rugged good looks and an athletic build. He brandishes a green-bladed lightsaber, though he has been known to have access to a veritable arsenal of personal weaponry. He often travels with Jan Ors aboard the battered starship, the Moldy Crow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 All that happened in the earlier JKs, methinks. And that picture is a painting or a 3D image, methinks again. And finally methinks, that me can think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yangyan Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 no actually its a real human like han solo and anakin and stuff, a real human im gonna check if i can find the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yangyan Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 ahh found it, and i assure you this is not a 3d model http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/kylekatarn/eu.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawBag™ Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Those pics are from cut-scenes in Jedi Knight Dark Forces 2. That game used real actors in scenes. Seems it was al the rage back then, with the likes of command and conquer etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Of course I've seen that place. I don't say stuff without seeing it! There's a similar picture on the JK forums also, you'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Besides which, there were three books made from the Dark Forces / Jedi Knight games. Very good stuff. Don't forget that Kyle started in Dark Forces. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa_0 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Dark Forces and Jedi Knight Dark Forces II was comic books and novels way before the game came out. All the cut scenes in JK Df2 where filmed in real life. I wish they would start doing it again with the series. Most people around here came from the JK/MotS era of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legameboy Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I wish I could play JK: DF2. I came in late, when JKII was released. Would JK: DF2 work on Windows XP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxStar Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 If you can right click your icons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Originally posted by legameboy I wish I could play JK: DF2. I came in late, when JKII was released. Would JK: DF2 work on Windows XP? JK and MotS work great, and have pretty modest requirements. My 'work supplied' ultra-portable has JK & MotS installed, you just have to shortcut directly to the game executable. I have three pieces for you on JK & MotS: - Buy them. - Play them. - Love them. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Originally posted by txa1265 I have three pieces for you on JK & MotS: - Buy them. (If you can find them) - Play them. (If you can support them) - Love them. (If you hate JKA) Mike Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight of Keno Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 As Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 held every cut-scene with real actors, as it was the big hit and the Lucasart's had placed big sum of money into making it. It Was made with an idea, that either the game and cut-scenes ruled, the game ruled or the cut-scenes ruled. And if you didn't buy it, you hated yourself for it. It was obvious that it would have a sequel. As MotS was made with a little higher sum of money, it was allso made better to play, a little harder as the AI had an upgrade and so it allso had to have some minor people. At this, Lucasarts was in a thight place. It propably had a crushive dead-line and so they hadn't time for real cut-scenes, and so they just animated them and put some voice actors. I don't know what's the other JK-games are, but still... I know, I know, I got away from the topic, but I don't care... Have fun(Trying to think what I meant) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Originally posted by sabretooth Fixed *AHEM* Don't f*ck with my quote You *should* be able to find them, and there are few problems playing them on just about any modern system (I've installed them on ~8 computers over the last several years) As for the reference to one of my favorite all-time games, Jedi Academy ... leave it alone. I like JKII and JA *better* than JK/MotS based primarily on gameplay and the integration of the lightsaber and Jedi life into the story. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa_0 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Ahem... History of the Jedi Knight Series Dark Forces Dark Forces II Jedi Knight Mysteries of the Sith Jedi Outcast Jedi Academy There has been a great change from DF to JA. I personally love all the titles especially JK and MotS, cause thats where I started out. Ah the golden days of the past. Looking back I would never would have guess what all that we can do now in Outcast and Academy. I hope the series continues to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yangyan Posted July 17, 2004 Author Share Posted July 17, 2004 i cant be bothered doing a quote, but what the heck is the point of using real actors? like the background would be all different i wish i played dark forces, any ideas where to download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Homer Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Well, they set up the story first, shot the cut scenes & then incorporated whatever backgrounds there were from the cut scenes into the area you were in just before the cut scene starts...simple really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Blackrose Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Jedi Knight was re-released a while back, but they didn't package it with MotS... A shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Dark Forces was my first real game. I was like 5 and I was playing it ---------------------------- 1995: I still remember the cheat codes: Invincible: LA IMLAME (Took me a long time to fiqure out what it meant ) Fast Shooting: LA POSTAL Well, those are the one I still remember. Damn, I wish I still had my strategey guide ----------------------------- 1997: I got Jedi Knight in '97, It was the first game I "wanted" ------------------------------ 1998: Didn't get MotS ------------------------------ 2002: Preordered JK2, played it for along time. but when I got a new comp, the disc was to beat up, and I couldn't install it. ------------------------------ Late Winter 2003: I have no idea why Im still at the forums. So I leave cause of my slow internet ------------------------------ Summer 2003: JA releases, wasn't interested cause I heard it didn't have much to do with Kyle Katarn (Come back to post a few) ------------------------------- Fall 2003: I move, get cable, reach 1000 posts. ------------------------------- Today: I got 1700+ posts now I liked the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series cause my name is Kyle, too. TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight of Keno Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Originally posted by yangyan i cant be bothered doing a quote, but what the heck is the point of using real actors? Because it's Lucasarts? Have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topshot Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Well, I believe I was 9 when I first received DF as a christmas gift. It didn't really catch my attention, but yeah, it was good. A little bit challenging, but it's definitely worth the money. I can remember a couple of the codes, as well, such as LA REDLITE and LA POGO. When DF2: Jedi Knight came out...........now that's when the series caught my eye! Good times, they were...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 he he ...funny that dudes on a jediknight forum dont even know about JKI and MotS.... anyways, I had great times back then, and the cutscenes were awesome.... in MoTs you get to play as Mara Jade ! I have a bit of trouble playing them now, nothing to do with compatibility, just interest, but they run in xp fine (even without having to invoke 'compatibility mode') Have fun ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Originally posted by yangyan i cant be bothered doing a quote, but what the heck is the point of using real actors? like the background would be all different i wish i played dark forces, any ideas where to download i do worry about the kids of today... sigh. Maybe i can explain it, hmm, lets see... In the OLD DAYS when computers were beige and had these strange slots in the front for things called "floppy disks" (even though they weren't floppy, but that is in the prequel) computer graphics were less advanced than they are today. While the ancient gamers of this time could understand these primitive graphics in terms of gameplay, it was hard to convey stories, characterisation, emotion and so on with avatars made of only a few polygons and pixels. This meant that ALMOST ALL GAMES used cutscenes that were not rendered with the ingame graphics engine!! *gasps from baby ewoks and tiny yangyan* Many games didn't bother with cutscenes at all (doom, quake), some had text that explained the story(warcraft 2), others used more abstract drawn and cartoon style static images (SotE), the most advanced games used some newfangled technology called "video" and real actors (DF2:JK, C&C) combined with pre-rendered cgi. It was a dark time, before the GeForce came.... ----- Anyways, the cut scenes in the original JK were filmed because the characters were too low poly to properly tell the story. On the whole the cutscenes were pretty good and pretty well acted, the cgi was pretty good, and the story was much better told than the minimal-to-none-existant story told by a few teethy heads in JK2:JO. In the odd place there were limitations though, mainly the head of the alien in the first scene, who didn't move the lips on his rubber mask. I only noticed it the third time round though. JK is an all time classic game, that is IMHO (sorry txa1265:D ) leagues ahead of JO (never got around to picking up JA as JO put me off the whole thing). The story is much better, much more involving. The graphics may be simpler, but they capture the scale and feel of the universe better, the advancement and choice of destinies is much more fun, the weapons are much more varied and interesting. Multiplayer isn't as polished though, but then that wasn't as big a thing back in the old days... They actually used in game cutscenes for the MotS expansion pack (we used to get those from lucasarts back then, infact lucasarts actually had a good reputation back then, as did SW games in general). In some ways it kept you in the action more, but the engine was so limited that they couldn't really tell the story, and it was basically just a few low poly models waying their arms around. So no, it wasn't a tv series.... although there was a SW tv series back then which followed the adventures of han solo before he left the imerial navy. really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuRaSaMuNe Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 JK1 was sweet. Instead of not having your saber up meaning your passive, there would be idiots running around going "FISTS = PEACE!!" but I saw em as free kills . I was the grip-whore everyone hated. Jans actress was so fine ooooo baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Originally posted by toms JK is an all time classic game, No argument there ... JK *IS* an all-time classic. It also came out >4 years before JKII. So there are natural advancements in technology and gameplay. I love JK, and its' cutscenes. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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