Leper Messiah Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 is it possible Padme might survive ROTS? Leia says in ROTJ she remembers a little bit about her real mother so she must be alive for a while after Leias birth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soromonu Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 if she does survive it cannot be for very long..maybe its what she thinks she remembers..stuff she may have heard from her adoptive father or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dark Jedi Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Originally posted by Soromonu if she does survive it cannot be for very long..maybe its what she thinks she remembers..stuff she may have heard from her adoptive father or something... Yes exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 It could be that her Force sensitivity allowed her to remember Padme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Originally posted by Lynk Former It could be that her Force sensitivity allowed her to remember Padme. i like that, definately feasible and it would still mean Padme would die (im still hoping that will be the final reason Anakin turns to the dark side, i just dont see what else he cares about so much it could turn him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Originally posted by Lynk Former It could be that her Force sensitivity allowed her to remember Padme. That is what I've always thought. Here is the actual dialog... LUKE: Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother? LEIA: Just a little bit. She died when I was very young. LUKE: What do you remember? LEIA: Just...images, really. Feelings. It certainly opens the door for the story to go that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Perhaps George Lucas took that into the trilogy without thinking anything about it and now he is gonna change that in ROTJ? I have heard that anywhere you could read the script about the Obi Wan - Anakin fight. And in this scene Padme probably would be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Originally posted by Revan Solo Perhaps George Lucas took that into the trilogy without thinking anything about it and now he is gonna change that in ROTJ? I doubt it, it's one of the most powerful dialogues between luke and leia in the entire series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Originally posted by Revan Solo I have heard that anywhere you could read the script about the Obi Wan - Anakin fight. And in this scene Padme probably would be killed. I read she's not on that planet with them when it happens. I think no matter what happens there are going to be a lot of unhappy people with questions for GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tx_Jedi Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 I actually was discussing this very subject the other day! Here's my 2 cents . . . Keep with me as I am going a long way to show how Leia and the ROTJ dialogue would work! From what I have read/heard about ROTS is that Padme goes off to lead a Republic mission that is set up by Palpatine. When she is on this mission Padme gets a side quest going where she leaves where she is supposed to be, and in doing so, lives another day. To everyone except Padme's immediate goup, she is dead. Killed off by the Confederate forces. Palpatine uses this to fuel Anakin's aggression, which tests Kenobi's ability to control the soon to be Dark Lord. Padme would be the only thing holding Anakin together. Palpatine knows this, and with her dead, he could turn him in an instant. Anakin, clouded by hate and rage looses his connection to the light , which could have aided him in finding Padme. So after his perceived failure to save his mom, and now Padme, he has had it with the Jedi constraining him. I am sure Anakin views the Jedi as having kept him from being there to help those he loved. So he pushes his power until Kenobi decides to draw the line. They fight and Anakin is believed dead. At this time Padme makes it back to the Republic to find out out Anakin is dead. (Check out the terror/shocked face she has in the Trailer!) I would also think in ferreting out Palpatine, the fact that everyone thinks Padme is dead would be used by the good guys. While Anakin is getting his upgrade to Sith Lord, the true nature of Palpatine is revealed and Padme, among others, are taken away and hidden from the power of the new Emperor. This would make sense as Padme has been on the top of Palpy's hit list for quite sometime. I would also think that Palpatine would arrogantly believe that he has finally killed Padme and try not confirm it. (Luke did say his overconfidence was his weakness) As well, learning that Padme is alive would cause Anakin to falter as a Sith Lord. So I think that George is using the tragic theme that both Padme and Anakin never know the fate of the other. Which would explain why Leia remembers her mother sad. The loss of her love would cause he deep grief. As for Anakin, it only fuels his hatred and power. Those who killed his only love will pay. It would explain why he is absolutely ruthless. He has nothing more to lose in his life. Perhaps the answer is even simpler. After fleeing to Alderran Padme dies during the twins birth and Leia remembers not Padme, but rather Bail Organa's wife. Mrs. Organa would be sad that these children would never know their mother. Well, that what I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Originally posted by Tx_Jedi I actually was discussing this very subject the other day! Here's my 2 cents . . . Keep with me as I am going a long way to show how Leia and the ROTJ dialogue would work! From what I have read/heard about ROTS is that Padme goes off to lead a Republic mission that is set up by Palpatine. When she is on this mission Padme gets a side quest going where she leaves where she is supposed to be, and in doing so, lives another day. To everyone except Padme's immediate goup, she is dead. Killed off by the Confederate forces. Palpatine uses this to fuel Anakin's aggression, which tests Kenobi's ability to control the soon to be Dark Lord. Padme would be the only thing holding Anakin together. Palpatine knows this, and with her dead, he could turn him in an instant. Anakin, clouded by hate and rage looses his connection to the light , which could have aided him in finding Padme. So after his perceived failure to save his mom, and now Padme, he has had it with the Jedi constraining him. I am sure Anakin views the Jedi as having kept him from being there to help those he loved. So he pushes his power until Kenobi decides to draw the line. They fight and Anakin is believed dead. At this time Padme makes it back to the Republic to find out out Anakin is dead. (Check out the terror/shocked face she has in the Trailer!) I would also think in ferreting out Palpatine, the fact that everyone thinks Padme is dead would be used by the good guys. While Anakin is getting his upgrade to Sith Lord, the true nature of Palpatine is revealed and Padme, among others, are taken away and hidden from the power of the new Emperor. This would make sense as Padme has been on the top of Palpy's hit list for quite sometime. I would also think that Palpatine would arrogantly believe that he has finally killed Padme and try not confirm it. (Luke did say his overconfidence was his weakness) As well, learning that Padme is alive would cause Anakin to falter as a Sith Lord. So I think that George is using the tragic theme that both Padme and Anakin never know the fate of the other. Which would explain why Leia remembers her mother sad. The loss of her love would cause he deep grief. As for Anakin, it only fuels his hatred and power. Those who killed his only love will pay. It would explain why he is absolutely ruthless. He has nothing more to lose in his life. Perhaps the answer is even simpler. After fleeing to Alderran Padme dies during the twins birth and Leia remembers not Padme, but rather Bail Organa's wife. Mrs. Organa would be sad that these children would never know their mother. Well, that what I think! (too long:D) Perhaps Leia didn't want to speak about her mother because she had seen her dieing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 heh, that's pretty good Tx_Jedi. Revan, please don't quote the entire post when you're only going to post a single sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Originally posted by Lynk Former It could be that her Force sensitivity allowed her to remember Padme. That's true IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyoi Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Padme dies in episode 3 shortly after Leia and Luke are born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Originally posted by johnnyoi Padme dies in episode 3 shortly after Leia and Luke are born no sh1t Sherlock!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palpatine Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 This all sounds a bit wierd...I mean we know that Episode III takes place 3 years after Episode II. Padme is pregnant there, last stage and ready for giving birth to Luke and Leia. Padme dies in RotS, which means that Luke and Leia are born before the end of Ep.3....but still...a child's memory starts to develope after his/her second or third age...so its quite wierd that Leia got some memories of her mother (Padme) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Originally posted by Palpatine This all sounds a bit wierd...I mean we know that Episode III takes place 3 years after Episode II. Padme is pregnant there, last stage and ready for giving birth to Luke and Leia. Padme dies in RotS, which means that Luke and Leia are born before the end of Ep.3....but still...a child's memory starts to develope after his/her second or third age...so its quite wierd that Leia got some memories of her mother (Padme) Yeah in real life that seems wierd, but in real life there is no such thing as the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jaxu Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Originally posted by Prime That is what I've always thought. Here is the actual dialog... It certainly opens the door for the story to go that way. Actually if padme could have held her before she died leia could have gathered those emotions through the force and still remember them till now.Thats what i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai DD Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I dont know if its just a rumor, but ive heard like 3 times now that Padme dies while giving birth. If thats so, Leia remembers the Queen of Alderaan, like Tx said, or its her force sensitivity, like Lynk said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rut-wa jodar Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 Originally posted by Lynk Former It could be that her Force sensitivity allowed her to remember Padme. If that were true then luke would have memories of his mother,but in ROTJ he states that he has no memories of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jaxu Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 that would depend on which kid was born first cuz she coulda died after leia was born while having luke so she never would have been able to hold him to give him a memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I think they fake her death. I always imagined from lea's statement that she died either from depression/ broken heart. It hasn't been confirmed she's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Originally posted by rut-wa jodar If that were true then luke would have memories of his mother,but in ROTJ he states that he has no memories of her. However it is well known that different Jedi have different strengths with the Force. Luke has strengths in one area, Leia has strengths in other areas... make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 LUKE: Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother? LEIA: Just a little bit. She died when I was very young. LUKE: What do you remember? LEIA: Just...images, really. Feelings. Why have people been saying that she remembers her adopted mother? Luke clearly says: 'Your REAL mother'. As in not the mum who adopted you. Also she says: 'She died when I was very young'. She doesn't say: She died right when I was born. She was adopted to be hiden from vader, but who says that she dies? I agree with lynk though. Remember that Leia could sence Luke's presence at besbin and the death star and knew about them being brother and sister. Surly this means that her main strenght in the force is the power to feel through the force. Therefore she should be able to remember feelings too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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