Surfnshannon Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I must be the only "Spoiled" fan that thinks that Padme fakes her death. The first time I saw on the web cam on hyperspace the funeral scene (at that time we were all speculating) I had figuered it to be a faux. So here is where I want to gather evidence that proves my theory. Here is some news that is hopeful http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=9056 "Anyone who has followed the Star Wars prequels knows that George Lucas changes his films up to the last possible minute. (Ask anyone who happened to see an accidentally released Episode I print where Darth Maul fell down the shaft in one piece.) Revenge of the Sith is no exception. Changes are still being made, so if you've already spoiled yourself with the comic or novelization, a source lets us know of a few things you'll find different in the film. Highlight to read spoilers!: During the childbirth, the lower half of Padme's body is now covered by some device (added digitally). Thus the scene is now inconsistent with what you see in the books, older stills etc... Padme's last words are changed and her funeral is now even longer. There are more mourners (mostly human) and we see that she holds in her hand that wooden thing Anakin gave her in Episode 1." So please George.....Change it so she lives. I'd hate to think that Vader killed his wife and such a strong woman died because her husband choked her. What kind of message does that send our children? Be stong Padme....survive. Live so that Leia may see you again. You can die somewhere between the PT and the OT but please fake your death. Here is another picture The books says she gave the necklace to Obi - however the pictures showing on the web are showing her holding the necklace. There has to be some significance in this..... Something has changed with her death scene.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 i thought she wouldn't die. Leia's line from ROTJ wouldn't make sense if she did. so i thought it would happen like this... either that after Anakin chokes her, she would go into a coma. then they could imply that she dies between III and IV. that way you could presume that Bail takes Leia to visit her and that’s why she remembers her. or, that she does fake her death to protect her children and herself from Vader, but its also implied that she only has got long to live. however from what i've seen and heard, she is going to die Anakin has dreams about her dying during child birth. thats why he turns to the darkside of the force to a bid to save her. then in a ironic twist it is in fact he who kills her, yet she survives long enough to give birth. it gives the story a whole "What's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would you still have broken it if I hadn't said anything?' kinda thing. in an attempt to save her, he kills her. would she had died if he hadn't tried to save her? that is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Originally posted by Sivy i thought she wouldn't die. Leia's line from ROTJ wouldn't make sense if she did. It is possible that Leia had visions of her mother early in her childhood... According to my last visit to Supershadow (where I shamelessly read the whole script), Padmé dies just after childbirth. Still, the whole thing doesn't feel right. I still think it will be better and more... uh... emotional to add the 'Darth Vader kills Padmé' thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Originally posted by STTCT What kind of message does that send our children? Don't marry people that choke you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I hate to say it, but she is so dead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockniel Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Originally posted by Sabretooth It is possible that Leia had visions of her mother early in her childhood... According to my last visit to Supershadow (where I shamelessly read the whole script), Padmé dies just after childbirth. Still, the whole thing doesn't feel right. I still think it will be better and more... uh... emotional to add the 'Darth Vader kills Padmé' thing. oh my gosh, how did you get 2000 posts? I don't care WHAT you read on supershadow, its wrong! bleah, even if he got the script from a real source, just being on his site makes it wrong, yeah thats kinda strange, but beleive me on this one! and you guys make a convincing story, I gotta say, I'm swayed a little, it would be a neat plot twist to have her live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Originally posted by STTCT What kind of message does that send our children? <_< Reality sucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Originally posted by Ockniel oh my gosh, how did you get 2000 posts? I don't care WHAT you read on supershadow, its wrong! bleah, even if he got the script from a real source, just being on his site makes it wrong, yeah thats kinda strange, but beleive me on this one! and you guys make a convincing story, I gotta say, I'm swayed a little, it would be a neat plot twist to have her live That guy from supershadow just stole what other sites already had and posted it as his own. Kind of like Microsoft except with less money involved. Here's a spoiler. At the end of the new Lego SW game Padme gives birth to twins then she falls back and her eyes turn to x's. She's dead. On a comic note when the twins were born there were 2 popping sounds. Childbirth would be even more interesting if popping sounds were involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Master Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I love Padme..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted April 11, 2005 Author Share Posted April 11, 2005 Regardless of what Lego starwars has - even with Big X's as eye's or any of the books say - The spoiler I have at the top states that there will still be some suprises up George's sleeve's that will only be in the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I think the message is, even the worst of us can be saved. The death of Padme just makes that more powerful in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Originally posted by Lynk Former I think the message is, even the worst of us can be saved. The death of Padme just makes that more powerful in the end. I agree. It's very powerful the reason he turned to the darkside was to save her and the darkside is the reason he killed her. It's very Faustian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 She's dead as a doornail. But Aayla must live! ;_; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I guess if you want to get really crazy about the whole thing, George could have filmed 2 versions - one with he dying, one living. Just to keep us guessing. So, although all the sources say she died, the rumours she lives have to come from somewhere. It also means the actors ect cant tell you either. Im sure this is wrong, but an intresting theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hidden One Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 If Padme dies I don't know if I could bear myself. But maybe she won't.... I hope not. Bt she probaly will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 All the spoilers I've read point to her dying. Plus, it'll make Anakin's turn to evil more dark and tragic knowing that he was the one responsible for her death when his intention was to find a way to save her from death. Sorry to say it, but I actually hope she dies. @Siv: Your sig is very disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted April 13, 2005 Author Share Posted April 13, 2005 Wouldn't it make it more dark and tragic if Anakin thought she died, but she didn't? That he would always think that he killed her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted April 13, 2005 Author Share Posted April 13, 2005 Here's a bit of information I found about her funeral It's going to be a water funeral with her floating away in her casket.... where she will drift off and be on the set of Survivor: Naboo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 although padme does unfortunately die, i don't think it's directly caused by being choked by anakin. from the illustrated screenplay ... MEDICAL DROID: Medically, she is completely healthy. For reasons we can't explain, we are losing her. OBI-WAN: She's dying? MEDICAL DROID: We don't know why. She has lost the will to live. We need to operate quickly if we are to save the babies. i think she just dies of a broken heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokill Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 the emperor is sending over a death beam *by force* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Perhaps the unexplained reasons is a force choke. And also: MEDICAL DROID: We don't know why. She has lost the will to live. We need to operate quickly if we are to save the babies. why is there a plural of babies? i thought vader only knew about luke? The droid is saying he knows about the twins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Its possible that not even Padme knew about the twins, but from what I remember from Return of the Jedi, Leia admits that she remembers her mother, but that she died when Leia was very young Said in the movie, duh Leia: Luke, what's wrong? Luke turns and looks at her a long moment. LUKE: Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother? LEIA: Just a little bit. She died when I was very young. LUKE: What do you remember? LEIA: Just...images, really. Feelings. LUKE: Tell me. LEIA: She was very beautiful. Kind, but...sad. Why are you asking me all this? So for me, this could mean one thing in my mind: Padme's funeral is faked so that she could escape with Leia and flee to Alderaan with Bail Organa while Obi-Wan Kenobi takes Luke to Owen and Beru Lars on Tattooine. Later on, years after her birth (probably 3-4 years), Leia remembers Padme dying, but in that time, she was able to get to know her mother and why she is able to know that she was beautiful and kind, but also sad (heart broken seems logical). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Originally posted by guybroom why is there a plural of babies? i thought vader only knew about luke? The droid is saying he knows about the twins? It's a medical droid that's been examining her. Of course it knows there are 2 babies. Vader only knew about Luke and he found out after the Death Star battle in Episode 4. Before that he thought his child died with Padme. Little did he know that there were 2 and they lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted April 13, 2005 Author Share Posted April 13, 2005 Yes how can you explain Leia knowing that she was "kind". You can't get that from seeing your mom dying on a table? Beautiful I could understand - maybe the force allowing her to briefly remember flashbacks to when she got named...but kind? Also - notice how Pictures of Padme being choked and her funeral aren't exactly easy to come by. There is not that many - I just don't know why it doesn't sit right with me - I could so see George going HA I GOT THEM AGAIN. With everyone who is so convinced from the spoilers that Padme is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by STTCT Wouldn't it make it more dark and tragic if Anakin thought she died, but she didn't? That he would always think that he killed her. To be frank, I don't think it'll fit in. It'll just be irritating in the story and if we view all 6 movies in succession, by the time we end Ep4, we will have sympathy for Vader, not fear. Vader was a character meant to be feared, a cold-blooded monster capable of killing younglings and even his own wife. It was Anakin who was desperate in saving his wife, NOT Vader. Thinking that Vader spent the rest of his years weeping about his wife would seem just stupid, as if he is some sort of betrayed lover from a Shakespherian play (sp?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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